Fine tuning your rig
 

Ringmaster wrote:
Joe wrote:
Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?

Center your mast.
Rake it aft so the boat has helm in light air.
Install an adjustable backstay.
If your main is old and deep buy a new flat one.
Less jib halyard tension.
Put your wife and kids on the rail. Sail flat.



For this boat Ringmaster
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3212926DdkPsY#

Not this one
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926XhvvaU

Joe

Fine tuning your rig
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK..Hoping for a bit of expert advice.
A few questions:

1. Will you point higher if you move your Jib forward by installing a
bowspirt?

2. Can you point higher if you un-rake your mast a bit?

No, but you would probably point higher if you un-stepped your mast.

On a power boat, such as yours, the sails impede your progress to wind.


Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?


Get a proper sail boat!!!



Regards


Donal
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Fine tuning your rig
 

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK..Hoping for a bit of expert advice.
A few questions:

1. Will you point higher if you move your Jib forward by installing a
bowspirt?

2. Can you point higher if you un-rake your mast a bit?

No, but you would probably point higher if you un-stepped your mast.

On a power boat, such as yours, the sails impede your progress to wind.


Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?


Get a proper sail boat!!!



Regards


Donal
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For this boat Donal
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3212926DdkPsY#


Not this one
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926XhvvaU


Did you do like the other Bent-a-toe sailor and buy a quality Kia too?

Bennie's...the Kia of Sailboats


Joe


Reply »

Fine tuning your rig
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK..Hoping for a bit of expert advice.
A few questions:

1. Will you point higher if you move your Jib forward by installing a
bowspirt?

2. Can you point higher if you un-rake your mast a bit?

No, but you would probably point higher if you un-stepped your mast.

On a power boat, such as yours, the sails impede your progress to wind.


Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?


Get a proper sail boat!!!



Regards


Donal
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For this boat Donal
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3212926DdkPsY#


Not this one
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926XhvvaU
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Dead right, Joe!!

One of those boats need wind, and one of them doesn't! I know which one
that I would prefer to sail!



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Did you do like the other Bent-a-toe sailor and buy a quality Kia too?

You are beginning to sound like Bobsprit! Can't you come up with your own
insults?


Bennie's...the Kia of Sailboats

I can adjust the rake of my mast. Tell us again where your backstays are
attached to your mast!!!

Your boat wasn't designed to sail.


Regards


Donal
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Joe


Reply »

Fine tuning your rig
 

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Donal wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
OK..Hoping for a bit of expert advice.
A few questions:

1. Will you point higher if you move your Jib forward by installing a
bowspirt?

2. Can you point higher if you un-rake your mast a bit?

No, but you would probably point higher if you un-stepped your mast.

On a power boat, such as yours, the sails impede your progress to wind.


Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?


Get a proper sail boat!!!



Regards


Donal
--




For this boat Donal
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3212926DdkPsY#


Not this one
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926XhvvaU
-------------------------------------

Dead right, Joe!!

One of those boats need wind, and one of them doesn't! I know which one
that I would prefer to sail!

I know which one you could handle somewhat safely



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Did you do like the other Bent-a-toe sailor and buy a quality Kia too?

You are beginning to sound like Bobsprit!

Bobspirt is buying like you....Birds of a feather


Can't you come up with your own
insults?

Cant you get thoses floor boards to stay down?


Bennie's...the Kia of Sailboats

I can adjust the rake of my mast. Tell us again where your backstays are
attached to your mast!!!

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926LEPjVZ

You can see them all yourself for the main mast...need a mizzen shot?


Your boat wasn't designed to sail.

True..It's a motor sailor, made for motor sailing. Did you use your
Royal yachtmaster skills to physically derive that knowledge?

Man you're soundling just like Bobspittle....

BTW RedCloud will out sail your french bleach bottle and my floorboards
are solid as steel....in anything but light air.

Tally Ho...Pip pip and all that,

Joe

Regards


Donal
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Fine tuning your rig
 

OzOne wrote:
On 23 Jun 2006 10:02:25 -0700, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


Ringmaster wrote:
Joe wrote:
Any tuning suggestion to get your boat to point higher?

Center your mast.
Rake it aft so the boat has helm in light air.
Install an adjustable backstay.
If your main is old and deep buy a new flat one.
Less jib halyard tension.
Put your wife and kids on the rail. Sail flat.



For this boat Ringmaster
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...3212926DdkPsY#

Not this one
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926XhvvaU

Joe

Joe,
Spent more than half my life sailing small boats.
Looks to me like those sails are a little tired and that could explain
the flutter in the leech and low pointing......but.....next time
you're out, try just sheeting that main in a little harder and see
what happens.
Might just fix all your problems


Are there any battens in those pockets?
Doesn't look like it in that pic.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

Hey OZ,

Will post a picture of the new sails on the boat soon.

Joe



I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Fine tuning your rig
 

OzOne wrote:
On 24 Jun 2006 05:03:20 -0700, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:

Hey OZ,

Will post a picture of the new sails on the boat soon.

Joe

Ahhh, good.
Then we can talk tuning seriously.

If you can get a few shots of the sails sheeted in and lightly filled
with air from a few different angles it'll help heaps.

Is that thing light enough to put up on the hard and lay it over?

If the tide is high enough, It weighs about 300lbs. I have access to a
cherry picker, ive been thinking about stripping the bottom and putting
a new gel-coat on, and dry sailing the boat, But its a big boat for my
davits, and I do not wan't to be charged for another slip, might just
sand the antifoulant smooth , it fit in my slip at the stbd stern, easy
in, out.

If so, you could get the pics with it like that from behind and
parallel with the boom, from above and slightly behind and from
underneath the main looking towards the jib, so I can see the jib
shape, leech and slot shape with reference to the mainsail.

I'm pulling the mast and replacing the standing rigging, after Im
re-rigged, I'll shot a few pictures

Till then, just go sailing and try some more sheet tension on the
main, and maybe a little less on the jib to get better pointing.
Tiller should be just pulling against you when setup correctly with
the boat slightly heeled.

Thats the plan, got in a few hours this AM :0)

Ohh and you should see the awesome wooden Ketch next to me now.
(They ran off the ugly crewboat that tore out the pilon during Rita.)
And it's for sale..1962, 58' LOA ..39' WL 12' Beam' mahogany & Oak,
full keel, 18, 000 cast into the keel lead ballest, and all fittings
are solid bronze. Hollow 58' spruce main mast.

Shes one of the sexiest ladies I've ever seen. Her name is " Rena ".

Her owner is 70.y.o and awlful crusty... and a pleasure to swap sea
stories with. He's had the boat 25 years.

Joe


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Fine tuning your rig
 

Joe,

You might be able to help that leech flutter by Barbor Hauling that
outhaul line
down the the boom at the clew. With free footed sails, it is necessary
to have good Clew control


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma

Fine tuning your rig
 

Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe,

You might be able to help that leech flutter by Barbor Hauling that
outhaul line
down the the boom at the clew. With free footed sails, it is necessary
to have good Clew control


Thats a good idea Thom. If I still have flutter after I install new
standing rigging I'll give that a shot.

Joe



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma

Fine tuning your rig
 

Joe,

Looking at the picture of your boat, you're going to have a tough job
setting a back stay with that main & that Boom. You'll need to build a
Boomkin and without a flexible mast your gain would be minimal at best.

If you are determine to rig an adjustable mast, you might consider
adjustable Jack Stays (a la Lightning) but remember the "Sow's Ear"

It might be a lot easier and cheaper to install a track and turn buckle
on the base of the mast

If you want to race a good HDCP is a lot cheaper and easier


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/Pneuma