DSK wrote:
I would think that the metal would produce a rougher surface
than wetsanding. But wetsanding is a super PITA, especially
if taking the effort to get it fair. On a small one-design
it's not that big a deal to wetsand with a longboard up to
600 grit and finish with 1000 grit. This produces an
incredibly perfect bottom (and the realization that skill &
attention to detail during the race itself makes far more
difference).

After wetsanding burnishing with bronze wool or burlap polishes the
surface.

Unrelated question: How come there's no frac rigs at all in
your fleet?

Don't know how you reached that conclusion. A Merit 25 and a Tartan 35
first come to mind. The Tartan owner even has a J35 main. There is
also a Ranger 22 and a Beneteau 23 that I think are fractional. We had
a Laser 28 but the owner sold the boat last year. Personally I feel
mastheads are better on the bay. Bigger chutes for light air.

Ringmaster wrote:
After wetsanding burnishing with bronze wool or burlap polishes the
surface.


It's difficult to believe that this would be an improvement
on wetsanding with 1000 grit. But it's a long tough roud to
get up to where ws'ing w/1k gr will do any good, whereas it
may be that burnishing with bronze wool can bring
improvement right out of the box.


Unrelated question: How come there's no frac rigs at all in
your fleet?


Don't know how you reached that conclusion.

Just guessing, it looked like all mastheads in the pics you
linked to.

.... A Merit 25 and a Tartan 35
first come to mind. The Tartan owner even has a J35 main. There is
also a Ranger 22 and a Beneteau 23 that I think are fractional. We had
a Laser 28 but the owner sold the boat last year. Personally I feel
mastheads are better on the bay. Bigger chutes for light air.


You may be right but I still just like frac rigs better

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

You may be right but I still just like frac rigs better .

Masthead J29s w/outboards are the most popular version of that boat on
the Chesapeake. Must be a reason. Of course you can always "turbo" a
fractional boat. There are a number of Laser 28s w/masthead chutes.
Same goes for Hobie 33s.

It's difficult to believe that this would be an improvement
on wetsanding with 1000 grit. But it's a long tough roud to
get up to where ws'ing w/1k gr will do any good, whereas it
may be that burnishing with bronze wool can bring
improvement right out of the box.

In the past I've never done either. I was using Awlgrip Allstar Gold
Label and rolled it on. This time around I decided to switch to Vivid
which is a hard multi season paint that can be wet sanded and/or
burnished. I was happy with the results but the true test will be next
year to see if it is truly a multi season paint.

It's difficult to believe that this would be an improvement
on wetsanding with 1000 grit. But it's a long tough roud to
get up to where ws'ing w/1k gr will do any good, whereas it
may be that burnishing with bronze wool can bring
improvement right out of the box.

Ringmaster wrote:
In the past I've never done either.

I've faired and templated a couple of boats. It's a *lot* of
work, and a dirty & tedious job... enough of a PITA that one
should consider hiring somebody else to do it... except that
it's also extremely painstaking work and there's only one
way to make sure it's done right.

We started using 800 grit wetsand on the 470 as a psych move
in the perpetual arms race (that boat hull never touched
anything except the water or it's fleece-lined jacket) and I
decided that it really was smoother. Been using 1000 grit
for years but you have to work up to it, as use of any other
grit will leave grooves that it takes forever to remove with
1000 grit. This leaves a surface that feels as smooth as
polished marble.

.... I was using Awlgrip Allstar Gold
Label and rolled it on. This time around I decided to switch to Vivid
which is a hard multi season paint that can be wet sanded and/or
burnished. I was happy with the results but the true test will be next
year to see if it is truly a multi season paint.


We used Petit Trinidad hard finish paint, not really a
racing bottom but hey it's on a tugboat! After three years
it was OK, only had a diver go over it about 4 or 5 times
during that period. With a regular diver it could probably
have gone another year.

It will be interesting to hear what you report after a year
on Vivid... obviously it's a pretty fast bottom finish.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Bob Crantz wrote:

Do you think they take turns driving?

You seem to be intrigued with the sockpuppets and Capt. Rob.

Sockpuppets can be your friends if you treat them nicely.


How often should one bath ones sockpuppets? How often do they need new
clothes?

About as often as a teenage girl. Capt. Neal has experience with them, you
know. ;-)


Inquiring minds want to know!

I was wondering what kind of shampoo they used. Sometimes it smells good,
other times PU.

LP

"Bob Crantz" wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote:
I'm fairly certain that anyone who knowingly responds to **** heels like
these databozos isn't much better.

If you treat them fairly and with some respect they'll do the same in
kind. Calling them bozos may make them angry.

I always use fresh socks for puppets because one never knows when one will
be hit by a car and one doesn't want ambulance drivers to see dirty
undergarments.

What does Babs soak her "fine washables" in, Woolite?

"Woolite" sounds like some kinky sex that Capt. Mooron should be involved
in...especially since he doesn't "argue with women". hehee

LP

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Are you on drugs? These assholes are not interested in anything except
making this newsgroup unusable. Every time you repost their crap, it gives
them addition ammunition. If you haven't figured that out by now, there's
not much else to say.

You are so stupid, Jonathan. The "assholes" as you call them, are here
because you and katysails were netkkkopping, and still are from time to
time.

LP (btw, I don't see "hundreds of posts" like Maxprop does)