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The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I
wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago! Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something footer? Man they can point high! Joe |
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Joe wrote: The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago! Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something footer? Man they can point high! Joe 22 foot Star Class.....JFK sailed one as a teen. I sailed one a few years ago (it was restored and dry-sailed.) and loved it. It's a stunning boat in every respect. RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe wrote:
The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago! Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something footer? Man they can point high! Did it look like this? http://www.wolfartsberger.at/graphic...81_2000_gr.jpg The it was a Star. Very cool boats, they rule in light air despite the lack of a spinnaker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(sailboat) They're lots of fun to sail althought the big main and noodly mast give them some unusual habits compared to other boats. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Poor Doug the powerboats....I already ID'd the boat, Doug! It must really fry your rooster when I have the answers before you!!!! And I don't have to google anything up because I'v actually sailed 3 times the amount of boats that you ever will, POWERBOATER! Watch. RB 35s5 NY |
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OzOne wrote:
Star class...Wild boat to sail downhill in a breeze. Big main and hard chines so when the roll the chine digs in and they spear off in all directions. Yeah it is... like a big board boat with an invisible Giant Hand(tm) ;) Oh and Bob,,I believe that both Doug and I have actually sailed one..not just capable of identifying one by the insignia. Crewed on one years & years ago, thought it was a heck of a lot of work and was shocked at how tiny & fragile it felt. The one I crewed on was a bit dated even for it's time (which was back when I was young and dinosaurs roamed the Earth)... to give you an example, it had a gimmick for the runners that the helmsman called a goat's foot.... Lots of power though, a fun boat. Good call for the Olypmics. There are a few clubs with Stars on the Chesapeake, when we were racing the circuit up there we would see them scooting around in almost no wind. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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OzOne wrote:
had the immense pleasure of crewing for Colin Beashel on his Star many moons ago. Name-dropper! DSK |
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Oh and Bob,,I believe that both Doug and I have actually sailed one..not just capable of identifying one by the insignia. Yeah? AFTER I say I sailed one you and Doug make your little claims. And Doug quickly googles up some pics. Notice that I didn't need to? Interesting. And no one even answered Joe until AFTER I did. More and more I think you people are totally full of ****. RB 35s5 NY |
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OzOne wrote in message ... had the immense pleasure of crewing for Colin Beashel on his Star many moons ago. Who? |
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his Star many moons ago. Who? What??!!! Scotty!!! Don't tell us you haven't also sailed a Star Class boat with Dennis Connor and Elle McPhearson along for the ride!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Joe wrote: The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago! Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something footer? Man they can point high! Joe 22 foot Star Class.....JFK sailed one as a teen. I sailed one a few years ago (it was restored and dry-sailed.) and loved it. It's a stunning boat in every respect. RB 35s5 NY Ok thanks, cool boats I can out run one on a broad reach, but as I said they can point very high and left me way behind running upwind. There was a group of 5 racing last night. Also about 8 J-24, lots of lasers, sunfish, nacra, hobies, and many others. Just the one J-100 about the biggest boat racing. Joe |
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Also about 8 J-24, lots of lasers, sunfish, nacra, hobies, and many others. Joe, you should get a waterproof camera and take some shots. RB 35s5 NY |
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DSK wrote: Joe wrote: The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago! Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something footer? Man they can point high! Did it look like this? http://www.wolfartsberger.at/graphic...81_2000_gr.jpg The it was a Star. Very cool boats, they rule in light air despite the lack of a spinnaker. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(sailboat) They're lots of fun to sail althought the big main and noodly mast give them some unusual habits compared to other boats. Fresh Breezes- Doug King Cool looking boats Doug. Question, I've never flown a spinnaker, looked at similar sized boats last night that were flying spinnakers. Some had spinnaker poles, some did not. Now my bow is to small for anyone to stand and attach a pole, do the small boats have a block and tackle that pull the pole up to the mast?. or do they just keep the pole attached to the mast? What I can not understand is why there are ZERO skiffs here. I've never seen a skiff here in Texas...ever .....and we have a huge concentration of boats here. A nice skiff would leave everything on the lake way behind. Joe |
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Your jeliousy is showing.
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... his Star many moons ago. Who? What??!!! Scotty!!! Don't tell us you haven't also sailed a Star Class boat with Dennis Connor and Elle McPhearson along for the ride!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Ok thanks, cool boats I can out run one on a broad reach, but as I said they can point very high and left me way behind running upwind. There was a group of 5 racing last night. Joe, if you want to know more about them, just ask Doug or Ozzy. Scotty |
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OzOne wrote in message OK. time for a little more name dropping. Elle is a good friend of my wife and we have three ways more than a couple of time/year these days. You da Man, Ozzy! Oh, and I've spent quite a bit of time with DC over the years when I was sailing Etchells more competitively and often than I do now. What's DC really like, off a race boat? Scotty |
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Scotty wrote:
OzOne wrote in message OK. time for a little more name dropping. Elle is a good friend of my wife and we have three ways more than a couple of time/year these days. You da Man, Ozzy! Oh, and I've spent quite a bit of time with DC over the years when I was sailing Etchells more competitively and often than I do now. What's DC really like, off a race boat? Scotty They have onboard camera of the AC when his jib went kaflooey...he never turned a hair...just calmly explained what he wanted done and people scurried...no yelling, no swearing, etc. I was totally impressed when I saw that clip because I figured him to be a loudmouth.... |
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OzOne wrote: On 15 Jun 2006 05:47:37 -0700, "Capt. Rob" scribbled thusly: Also about 8 J-24, lots of lasers, sunfish, nacra, hobies, and many others. Joe, you should get a waterproof camera and take some shots. RB 35s5 NY Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is ready anytime. I have one of thoses cheap credit card size digitals cameras still in the package, I'll try to get some pics next week. One other cool boat perhaps you can help me ID. It had an emblem of crossed main sails one sail red one blue, have any ideal what that may be? Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is ready anytime. That's an old camera and not very good. The Pentax W10 is the best small model around. http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_...optio_w10.html I have one aboard Heart of Gold, though I'm still using the D70 more of course. Pentax has teamed with Casio to make very good compact cameras. Olympus had some nice stuff 3-4 years ago, but they've really lagged in recent years. RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe wrote:
I have one of thoses cheap credit card size digitals cameras still in the package, I'll try to get some pics next week. OK, I want to see the shot where you're zooming past that J-100! One other cool boat perhaps you can help me ID. It had an emblem of crossed main sails one sail red one blue, have any ideal what that may be? One of these http://www.v15.org/photos/2004Nation...s/DSC_4284.jpg Vanguard 15, popular with the recently-graduated college crowd... in fact I think a few college teams have bought them too (a mistake IMHO). They are fun boats, they can plane upwind. Good all-around simple class racer, not technical and very rewarding of skills with stick, sheet, and balance. If your boat can beat one of these around a course, that would be fairly impressive. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Joe wrote:
Cool looking boats Doug. Oh yes, they're classics... gorgeous! A competitive one is very expensive though. Question, I've never flown a spinnaker, looked at similar sized boats last night that were flying spinnakers. Some had spinnaker poles, some did not. Now my bow is to small for anyone to stand and attach a pole, do the small boats have a block and tackle that pull the pole up to the mast?. or do they just keep the pole attached to the mast? All kinds of ways to rig it. What I'd suggest, especially if you're going to singlehand, is a one-ended pole on what we used to call a flying tail-line (the same rig is used a lot now, but I am not sure what they call it): One end of the pole is the same, a clip for holding the spinnaker guy. The other end is fastened to a shock cord which leads down thru a retainer ring, and the "flying" line which runs up to a block on the forward side of the mast somewhere above the gooseneck... where the ring would normally be for a double ended pole. To set it, you clip the guy into the outer end of the pole, and pull the flying line so that the inner end of the pole is snugged up to the block. To gybe, ease the flying line out enough that you can reach & unclip the guy.... gybe... then clip the new guy on and pull the flying line again. The shock cord can either pull the pole back along the boom to stow there, which works pretty well on most boats except that you don't want the weight there in really light air. Or you can lead it down to the mast butt and let the pole stow vertically along the mast, which works well if the pole is short (like a 470). Wish I had a few pictures since that would explain it much more clearly. What I can not understand is why there are ZERO skiffs here. I've never seen a skiff here in Texas...ever .....and we have a huge concentration of boats here. A nice skiff would leave everything on the lake way behind. Skiffs have not caught on in the U.S. American sailors would rather putter around in boats designed in the 1930s and are not interested in progress. In fact when we were trying to promote the Johnson 18 class, we heard a lot of sailors in other classes telling outrageous lies about what an awful boat it was, so they didn't have to feel bad about sticking religiously to their outdated clunkers. A few people (very few, but the numbers are growing) are ignoring this head-in-the-sand attitude and someday we will have a few modern classes in the U.S. Personally I would like to see it sooner rather than later. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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DSK wrote: Joe wrote: I have one of thoses cheap credit card size digitals cameras still in the package, I'll try to get some pics next week. OK, I want to see the shot where you're zooming past that J-100! One other cool boat perhaps you can help me ID. It had an emblem of crossed main sails one sail red one blue, have any ideal what that may be? One of these http://www.v15.org/photos/2004Nation...s/DSC_4284.jpg Vanguard 15, popular with the recently-graduated college crowd... in fact I think a few college teams have bought them too (a mistake IMHO). They are fun boats, they can plane upwind. Good all-around simple class racer, not technical and very rewarding of skills with stick, sheet, and balance. If your boat can beat one of these around a course, that would be fairly impressive. Fresh Breezes- Doug King Yelp thats it. We ran neck to neck on most tacks. I'm not really racing these guys on the course, just hang out in the crowd and race anyone going the same way on anything. Maybe with some more practice ll head to the bar and sign up. There were so many boats going so many directions it was wild, almost had a J 24 run straight into me, I fell off the wind to get out of his way, he started going down. luckly someone yelled to him to come up and he missed me, I heard the helmsman say he never saw me. After the races they had the boats pass in review in front of the bar for pictures then everyone sortta just sailed around. One boat named " Whine Cooler" had an all female crew in Pink bikinis :0) Joe |
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No Nutsy,
The "Pile of ****" here on ASA is mainly all yours. |
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Hey Oz,
How about the Buchan Family of Seattle. They did pretty well in the STARS for a lot of years. |
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Doug,
Nice Picture! Looks like it was taken in a western location, with all those mountains in the background How about a picture of a Star, with a Connecticut Rigged Mast? I think JFK's Star had a Connecticut Rig? Joe is right. They sure as hell could climb the wind. That jib is necessary to reduce windward Helm. They don't sail upwind with out it. In fact they're a pig on Main alone but a great boat for real sailors. OT |
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OzOne wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 09:08:35 -0400, "Scotty" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message OK. time for a little more name dropping. Elle is a good friend of my wife and we have three ways more than a couple of time/year these days. You da Man, Ozzy! Hmmmm, now that would be interesting....but I wouldn't live long enough to bask in the glory :-) Yeah, but the three nipples would be handy! :0) Joe Oh, and I've spent quite a bit of time with DC over the years when I was sailing Etchells more competitively and often than I do now. What's DC really like, off a race boat? Quite shy, but will talk sailing till the cows come home if he feels comfortable with you. Drinks lemonade most of the time at regattas. Scotty Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Joe wrote:
My dad had a house across the street from Ted in the Atlanta area. I've meet him several times....never meet his wife(not sure if he was married to her at the time), which is good. You are right, the guys got crisma. Long long time ago I was at a big regatta where a bunch of "names" were invited for promotioanl reasons. Only a few showed up and Ted Turner was one. During an interlude of zero wind, the boats were all sitting around in a tight pack, going nowhere... amny of the skippers stressing about trying to inch ahead... Ted started telling jokes, explaining in a fairly loud voice to his crew that this was a tactic to break up everybody elses' concentration but that *he* could sail just as well while telling them. But he is also the man who took his mast down after the first day's racing, to check on something he thought wasn't quite right... most sailors would have shrugged it off. Most famous sailor i've ever meet was Robin Graham. Sounds like an interesting person. One of the big magazines mentioned him in their 30 year retrospective, that he'd become a rancher out West somewhere and had no interest in talking sailing with any reporters. DSK |
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DSK wrote: Joe wrote: My dad had a house across the street from Ted in the Atlanta area. I've meet him several times....never meet his wife(not sure if he was married to her at the time), which is good. You are right, the guys got crisma. Long long time ago I was at a big regatta where a bunch of "names" were invited for promotioanl reasons. Only a few showed up and Ted Turner was one. During an interlude of zero wind, the boats were all sitting around in a tight pack, going nowhere... amny of the skippers stressing about trying to inch ahead... Ted started telling jokes, explaining in a fairly loud voice to his crew that this was a tactic to break up everybody elses' concentration but that *he* could sail just as well while telling them. But he is also the man who took his mast down after the first day's racing, to check on something he thought wasn't quite right... most sailors would have shrugged it off. Most famous sailor i've ever meet was Robin Graham. Sounds like an interesting person. One of the big magazines mentioned him in their 30 year retrospective, that he'd become a rancher out West somewhere and had no interest in talking sailing with any reporters. He's was in the PNW in 81, I meet him San Francisco. He was very quiet and I think burned out early with all the fame as a teen, still married to Patti, the girl he meet in OZ. .. His Dad, Nat Geo, ect ...all profited more off his adventures then he did.... I think. He has a comfortable living on his book royalties, and want's to be left alone. A buddie on my ship was a close friend and knew I was a fan of his. I asked him about his cabin fever episode in the doldrums where he was throwing his sails in the water and almost set the boat ablaze , and he said it was all true. Maybe he was pressured to hard at the time and that quenched his desire for any more sailing. I could tell he was un-comfortable talking about the whole deal. I think if he had had it his way, he would have stopped in OZ and stayed with Patti. Joe DSK |
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On 15 Jun 2006 07:10:48 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is ready anytime. That's an old camera and not very good. The Pentax W10 is the best small model around. http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_...optio_w10.html I have one aboard Heart of Gold, though I'm still using the D70 more of course. Pentax has teamed with Casio to make very good compact cameras. Olympus had some nice stuff 3-4 years ago, but they've really lagged in recent years. Splashproof is good.. http://www.wareing77.plus.com/movies/IMGP0733.wmv |
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Very Good Doug,
I was at a loss on that Emblem OT |
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Goofball_star_dot_etal wrote: Hey Goofball! Is that your boat? Were are you sailing? Joe On 15 Jun 2006 07:10:48 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is ready anytime. That's an old camera and not very good. The Pentax W10 is the best small model around. http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_...optio_w10.html I have one aboard Heart of Gold, though I'm still using the D70 more of course. Pentax has teamed with Casio to make very good compact cameras. Olympus had some nice stuff 3-4 years ago, but they've really lagged in recent years. Splashproof is good.. http://www.wareing77.plus.com/movies/IMGP0733.wmv |
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On 15 Jun 2006 15:23:27 -0700, "Joe" wrote:
Goofball_star_dot_etal wrote: Hey Goofball! Yo, Joe! Is that your boat? No. It is a Sadler 34 that's been across the pond and done The Three Peaks Yacht Race. Come on over, it's sunny now.. Were are you sailing? Up to Holyhead, Anglesey, about 80nm north. http://maps.google.co.uk/?ie=UTF8&t=...80004,1.186523 This is Bardsey lighthouse before dawn with some biggish waves rolling in: http://www.wareing77.plus.com/images/IMGP0728b.JPG Cheers! |
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One of these
http://www.v15.org/photos/2004Nation...s/DSC_4284.jpg Vanguard 15, popular with the recently-graduated college OzOne wrote: Looks like a 420 knockoff. In some ways, yes... same basic idea. They're a bit more powerful than a 420. Longer, finer entry, firmer bilge, higher aspect & bigger rig. The 420s here are mostly open (always remind me of a bathtub) but the Vanguard 15 is mostly decked-over... although with typical Vanguard quality, the deck is not to be walked on by anybody weighing over 55kg (120 lb). I think of it as a kids boat, but they are fun. They are pretty good light air boats. Too light & fragile to be a club boat or a trainer. It doesn't do anything a Tasar doesn't do better & faster (although it is simpler), but that class never really caught on here either. No such thing as the perfect boat, is there? Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Nice pics..cool boat!
OzOne wrote in message ... Just one more :-) I count Sir James Hardy and his lovely wife Joan as good friends..whom I've sailed with a number of time on their delightful old yawl Nerida. Couple of pics here http://www.sasc.com.au/gaffers_day_2006.htm Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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OzOne wrote:
Just one more :-) I count Sir James Hardy and his lovely wife Joan as good friends..whom I've sailed with a number of time on their delightful old yawl Nerida. Couple of pics here http://www.sasc.com.au/gaffers_day_2006.htm Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. I've got you beat for sure...I've sailed with Maxprop, DSK, Michael Ortin; I've met Edgar Cove, have Fahd several phone conversations with Haggie, and have lively Messenger conversations with another personage of venerableness. There are several others I've met over the past years who no longer post here for oner reason or the other. And Dawn Riley wrote me a letter. I have been truly blessed. |
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Just one more :-)
I count Sir James Hardy and his lovely wife Joan as good friends..whom I've sailed with a number of time on their delightful old yawl Nerida. Couple of pics here http://www.sasc.com.au/gaffers_day_2006.htm A yawl? Where's the mizzen? When you sailed with them, did you set the jackyard topsail? There's a beast all right... makes the worst spinnaker seem very tame & cooperative. Scotty wrote: Nice pics..cool boat! Sure is! I like the flat-top Ranger class boats too. Some folks may remember the protest Sir James made as an America's Cup skipper against Intrepid (1970 IIRC... ancient history... the boats were *wood* fer gosh sake). Watching the news film of the protest hearing, he was calm and business like. A lot of the other people were pretty childish about the whole business (although FWIW I think the protest was decided correctly). Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"katy" wrote: OzOne wrote: Just one more :-) I count Sir James Hardy and his lovely wife Joan as good friends..whom I've sailed with a number of time on their delightful old yawl Nerida. Couple of pics here http://www.sasc.com.au/gaffers_day_2006.htm I've got you beat for sure...I've sailed with Maxprop, DSK, Michael Ortin; I've met Edgar Cove, have Fahd several phone conversations with Haggie, and have lively Messenger conversations with another personage of venerableness. There are several others I've met over the past years who no longer post here for oner reason or the other. And Dawn Riley wrote me a letter. I have been truly blessed. Aw, shucks... Seahag |
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Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote: OzOne wrote: Just one more :-) I count Sir James Hardy and his lovely wife Joan as good friends..whom I've sailed with a number of time on their delightful old yawl Nerida. Couple of pics here http://www.sasc.com.au/gaffers_day_2006.htm I've got you beat for sure...I've sailed with Maxprop, DSK, Michael Ortin; I've met Edgar Cove, have Fahd several phone conversations with Haggie, and have lively Messenger conversations with another personage of venerableness. There are several others I've met over the past years who no longer post here for oner reason or the other. And Dawn Riley wrote me a letter. I have been truly blessed. Aw, shucks... Seahag Hey...I was impressed that you called me in the middle of a raging hurricane while hanging off a pylon...that's true friendship! |
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katy wrote: I've got you beat for sure...I've sailed with Maxprop, DSK, Michael Ortin; I've met Edgar Cove, have Fahd several phone conversations with Haggie, and have lively Messenger conversations with another personage of venerableness. There are several others I've met over the past years who no longer post here for oner reason or the other. And Dawn Riley wrote me a letter. I have been truly blessed. Wow. Since your dropping legendary important sailors names I will to. I've meet Jim Cate and the guy who use to do the Bottom Jobs Cartoons! Top that! Joe |
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:03:26 -0400, DSK wrote:
Don't know anyone famous who sails, most of my friends that sail are imfamous and borderline crazy, not unlike those that post here. I was fortunate enough years ago on a delivery to be forced to stop in Ft. Lauderdale on one of the leg finishes for the Whitbread. One boat was there when we got there, two came in while we were still there and we saw one finish when we left to complete our trip. Met a bunch of the crewmembers. Those guys party pretty good between legs. Frank |
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Frank Boettcher wrote: Those guys party pretty good between legs. Frank Scotty made me do it! Joe |
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