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Capt. Rob June 15th 06 01:47 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 

Also about 8 J-24, lots of lasers, sunfish, nacra, hobies, and many
others.


Joe, you should get a waterproof camera and take some shots.



RB
35s5
NY


Joe June 15th 06 01:50 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:

The new sails are slick, the rudder flawless, Light winds-6-8 knots. I
wish I lost my old rudder a long time ago!

Anyone know what kind of boat has a red star on the sails? 20 something
footer?
Man they can point high!


Did it look like this?
http://www.wolfartsberger.at/graphic...81_2000_gr.jpg

The it was a Star. Very cool boats, they rule in light air
despite the lack of a spinnaker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_(sailboat)

They're lots of fun to sail althought the big main and
noodly mast give them some unusual habits compared to other
boats.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Cool looking boats Doug.

Question, I've never flown a spinnaker, looked at similar sized boats
last night that were flying spinnakers. Some had spinnaker poles, some
did not.

Now my bow is to small for anyone to stand and attach a pole, do the
small boats have a block and tackle that pull the pole up to the mast?.
or do they just keep the pole attached to the mast?

What I can not understand is why there are ZERO skiffs here. I've never
seen a skiff here in Texas...ever .....and we have a huge concentration
of boats here.

A nice skiff would leave everything on the lake way behind.

Joe


Scotty June 15th 06 01:57 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 
Your jeliousy is showing.



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

his Star
many moons ago.




Who?


What??!!! Scotty!!! Don't tell us you haven't also sailed

a Star Class
boat with Dennis Connor and Elle McPhearson along for the

ride!!!


RB
35s5
NY




Scotty June 15th 06 01:59 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...


Ok thanks, cool boats I can out run one on a broad reach,

but as I
said they can point very high and left me way behind

running upwind.
There was a group of 5 racing last night.



Joe, if you want to know more about them, just ask Doug or
Ozzy.

Scotty





Scotty June 15th 06 02:08 PM

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OzOne wrote in message


OK. time for a little more name dropping.
Elle is a good friend of my wife and we have three ways
more than a couple of time/year these days.


You da Man, Ozzy!


Oh, and I've spent quite a bit of time with DC over the

years when I
was sailing Etchells more competitively and often than I

do now.


What's DC really like, off a race boat?

Scotty



katy June 15th 06 02:12 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 
Scotty wrote:
OzOne wrote in message

OK. time for a little more name dropping.
Elle is a good friend of my wife and we have three ways
more than a couple of time/year these days.


You da Man, Ozzy!


Oh, and I've spent quite a bit of time with DC over the

years when I
was sailing Etchells more competitively and often than I

do now.


What's DC really like, off a race boat?

Scotty


They have onboard camera of the AC when his jib went kaflooey...he never
turned a hair...just calmly explained what he wanted done and people
scurried...no yelling, no swearing, etc. I was totally impressed when I
saw that clip because I figured him to be a loudmouth....

Joe June 15th 06 02:13 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 

OzOne wrote:
On 15 Jun 2006 05:47:37 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:


Also about 8 J-24, lots of lasers, sunfish, nacra, hobies, and many
others.


Joe, you should get a waterproof camera and take some shots.



RB
35s5
NY


Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is
ready anytime.


I have one of thoses cheap credit card size digitals cameras still in
the package, I'll try to get some pics next week.

One other cool boat perhaps you can help me ID. It had an emblem of
crossed main sails one sail red one blue, have any ideal what that may
be?

Joe





Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Capt. Rob June 15th 06 03:10 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 

Yeah, my little Olympus is great, slips into a pocket onboard and is
ready anytime.




That's an old camera and not very good. The Pentax W10 is the best
small model around.

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2006_...optio_w10.html

I have one aboard Heart of Gold, though I'm still using the D70 more of
course. Pentax has teamed with Casio to make very good compact cameras.
Olympus had some nice stuff 3-4 years ago, but they've really lagged in
recent years.


RB
35s5
NY


DSK June 15th 06 03:42 PM

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Joe wrote:
I have one of thoses cheap credit card size digitals cameras still in
the package, I'll try to get some pics next week.


OK, I want to see the shot where you're zooming past that J-100!

One other cool boat perhaps you can help me ID. It had an emblem of
crossed main sails one sail red one blue, have any ideal what that may
be?


One of these
http://www.v15.org/photos/2004Nation...s/DSC_4284.jpg

Vanguard 15, popular with the recently-graduated college
crowd... in fact I think a few college teams have bought
them too (a mistake IMHO). They are fun boats, they can
plane upwind. Good all-around simple class racer, not
technical and very rewarding of skills with stick, sheet,
and balance. If your boat can beat one of these around a
course, that would be fairly impressive.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


DSK June 15th 06 04:13 PM

trashed a J 100 tonight sail # USA 11
 
Joe wrote:
Cool looking boats Doug.


Oh yes, they're classics... gorgeous!
A competitive one is very expensive though.

Question, I've never flown a spinnaker, looked at similar sized boats
last night that were flying spinnakers. Some had spinnaker poles, some
did not.

Now my bow is to small for anyone to stand and attach a pole, do the
small boats have a block and tackle that pull the pole up to the mast?.
or do they just keep the pole attached to the mast?


All kinds of ways to rig it. What I'd suggest, especially if
you're going to singlehand, is a one-ended pole on what we
used to call a flying tail-line (the same rig is used a lot
now, but I am not sure what they call it):

One end of the pole is the same, a clip for holding the
spinnaker guy. The other end is fastened to a shock cord
which leads down thru a retainer ring, and the "flying" line
which runs up to a block on the forward side of the mast
somewhere above the gooseneck... where the ring would
normally be for a double ended pole. To set it, you clip the
guy into the outer end of the pole, and pull the flying line
so that the inner end of the pole is snugged up to the
block. To gybe, ease the flying line out enough that you can
reach & unclip the guy.... gybe... then clip the new guy on
and pull the flying line again.

The shock cord can either pull the pole back along the boom
to stow there, which works pretty well on most boats except
that you don't want the weight there in really light air. Or
you can lead it down to the mast butt and let the pole stow
vertically along the mast, which works well if the pole is
short (like a 470). Wish I had a few pictures since that
would explain it much more clearly.


What I can not understand is why there are ZERO skiffs here. I've never
seen a skiff here in Texas...ever .....and we have a huge concentration
of boats here.

A nice skiff would leave everything on the lake way behind.


Skiffs have not caught on in the U.S. American sailors would
rather putter around in boats designed in the 1930s and are
not interested in progress. In fact when we were trying to
promote the Johnson 18 class, we heard a lot of sailors in
other classes telling outrageous lies about what an awful
boat it was, so they didn't have to feel bad about sticking
religiously to their outdated clunkers.

A few people (very few, but the numbers are growing) are
ignoring this head-in-the-sand attitude and someday we will
have a few modern classes in the U.S. Personally I would
like to see it sooner rather than later.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



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