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Ya think Mr. Crantz eats raw kidney, too?


Why wouldn't he?

Bob Crantz wrote:
I grew up eating lots of game and organ meat. I don't eat organ meat
anymore with the exception of heart muscle. I also eat raw fish and
beef, it really helps muscle recovery.


What about raw brain tissue? Can that help mental recovery?


I do not understand why everyone heckles Mooron. His experiences are
unique to most here and he's usually right about everything.


True genius is always misunderstood. Besides this is just a
hecklin' kind of place.

katysails wrote:
...almost everything....and he's a wise man to never argue with a woman...

Exactly. No point in that whatever. Just agree with her and
keep right on doing what you want.

DSK

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DSK wrote:
Ya think Mr. Crantz eats raw kidney, too?


Why wouldn't he?

Bob Crantz wrote:
I grew up eating lots of game and organ meat. I don't eat organ meat
anymore with the exception of heart muscle. I also eat raw fish and
beef, it really helps muscle recovery.


What about raw brain tissue? Can that help mental recovery?


I do not understand why everyone heckles Mooron. His experiences are
unique to most here and he's usually right about everything.


True genius is always misunderstood. Besides this is just a hecklin'
kind of place.

katysails wrote:
...almost everything....and he's a wise man to never argue with a
woman...

Exactly. No point in that whatever. Just agree with her and keep right
on doing what you want.

DSK

No...it's the other way around...."Women and cats will do as they
please..." Heinlein

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Absolutely correct statement..... and obviously from someone experienced
in the wilderness.

Ya think Mr. Crantz eats raw kidney, too?

Max

I grew up eating lots of game and organ meat. I don't eat organ meat
anymore with the exception of heart muscle. I also eat raw fish and beef,
it really helps muscle recovery.

I do not understand why everyone heckles Mooron. His experiences are
unique to most here and he's usually right about everything.

A legend in his own mind.

Max

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with bears,
also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours while one
traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of my life
(NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?

Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He and
Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't you know
they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised it
hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the "sailor"
right out of him...

He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the Whaler
is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with bears,
also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours while one
traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of my life
(NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?
Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He and
Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't you know
they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised it
hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the "sailor"
right out of him...

He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the Whaler
is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max


She's been rooting for a trawler for at elast the last 10 years, ya know...

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"DSK" wrote:

I do not understand why everyone heckles Mooron. His
experiences are unique to most here and he's usually
right about everything.

"cuz he's cute:^)

Seahag

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Seahag wrote:
"DSK" wrote:
I do not understand why everyone heckles Mooron. His
experiences are unique to most here and he's usually
right about everything.

"cuz he's cute:^)

Seahag


...specially when he wears the little birdie....

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with
bears, also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours while
one traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of my life
(NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?
Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He and
Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't you know
they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised it
hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the "sailor"
right out of him...

He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the
Whaler is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max
She's been rooting for a trawler for at elast the last 10 years, ya
know...

No, I didn't know. And we spend a lot of time with them. But it doesn't
surprise me.
Would it surprise you that my wife and I are considering a Maine
lobster-type boat? Trawlers are okay, but more space than we need. Further
the lobster boat can go under most closed bridges while something with a
flybridge has to wait for an opening. Better on the ICW, for example.

Max

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with
bears, also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours while
one traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of my life
(NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?
Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He and
Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't you know
they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised it
hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the "sailor"
right out of him...
He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the
Whaler is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max
She's been rooting for a trawler for at elast the last 10 years, ya
know...

No, I didn't know. And we spend a lot of time with them. But it doesn't
surprise me.
Would it surprise you that my wife and I are considering a Maine
lobster-type boat? Trawlers are okay, but more space than we need. Further
the lobster boat can go under most closed bridges while something with a
flybridge has to wait for an opening. Better on the ICW, for example.

Max


Nah...doesn't surprise me...after all, you're an ex-motorboater...

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with
bears, also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours while
one traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of my
life (NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too
many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?
Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He and
Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't you
know they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised
it hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the
"sailor" right out of him...
He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the
Whaler is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max
She's been rooting for a trawler for at elast the last 10 years, ya
know...

No, I didn't know. And we spend a lot of time with them. But it doesn't
surprise me.
Would it surprise you that my wife and I are considering a Maine
lobster-type boat? Trawlers are okay, but more space than we need.
Further the lobster boat can go under most closed bridges while something
with a flybridge has to wait for an opening. Better on the ICW, for
example.

Max
Nah...doesn't surprise me...after all, you're an ex-motorboater...

Yup. I've never referred to myself as a sailor or a powerboater--just a
boater. We have kayaks and a Kevlar canoe, too. Nothing quite like being
attacked by a mute swan when kayaking through the swamp below the old
Bakery.

Max

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Oh no....

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I've had lots of experiences of the close up and personal with
bears, also. Was trapped in a UP outhouse for several hours
while one traipsed around outside...was one of the high points of
my life (NOT...even 3 minutes in a primitive outhouse is 3 too
many...)....
That wasn't a bear--that was just Marv.

Max
snort coulda been...he still cooped up in his floating xodo?
Now he has a 15' Boston Whaler with a 60hp 4-stroke outboard. He
and Roni spend a lot more time on that than on the 42. Or didn't
you know they bought a 42 footer?

Max
Yeah..they bought that the year before we left Crosswinds...surprised
it hasn't turned into something else by now...she rally took the
"sailor" right out of him...
He still sails, often with us, but occasionally on his boat. But the
Whaler is a new wrinkle for him. I'm worried about that.

Max
She's been rooting for a trawler for at elast the last 10 years, ya
know...

No, I didn't know. And we spend a lot of time with them. But it
doesn't surprise me.
Would it surprise you that my wife and I are considering a Maine
lobster-type boat? Trawlers are okay, but more space than we need.
Further the lobster boat can go under most closed bridges while
something with a flybridge has to wait for an opening. Better on the
ICW, for example.

Max
Nah...doesn't surprise me...after all, you're an ex-motorboater...

Yup. I've never referred to myself as a sailor or a powerboater--just a
boater. We have kayaks and a Kevlar canoe, too. Nothing quite like being
attacked by a mute swan when kayaking through the swamp below the old
Bakery.

Max

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Oh no....

Mute swans have become a problem in the Midwest this year. They have
proliferated to the point that there are insufficient "territories" for the
mated pairs. Mute swans are highly territorial, willing to fight all
interlopers who enter their space, especially when mated (they mate for
life) and have signets present. I've watched them chase jet skiers (yeah!)
and swimmers all over the place. The DNRs for both Michigan and Indiana are
considering allowing hunters to shoot a limited number of them. There have
been recorded episodes in which the swans have kept swimmers from reaching
shore, almost drowning two children. And several jet ski riders or
passengers have been knocked off their machines with minor injuries. At
least one dog has been drowned by a mute swan in Michigan. The birds can
weigh up to 39 lbs. and have a wingspan of nearly 6'. We aren't seeing many
Canada geese this year, probably because the swans are driving them away
from our lake.

They don't bother me all that much, at least not when I'm carrying a
double-ended paddle when kayaking. Makes an excellent swan-repeller.

Max

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Yeah, but you used to be a power boater! :-)

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Oh no....

Mute swans have become a problem in the Midwest this year. They have
proliferated to the point that there are insufficient "territories" for
the mated pairs. Mute swans are highly territorial, willing to fight all
interlopers who enter their space, especially when mated (they mate for
life) and have signets present. I've watched them chase jet skiers
(yeah!) and swimmers all over the place. The DNRs for both Michigan and
Indiana are considering allowing hunters to shoot a limited number of
them. There have been recorded episodes in which the swans have kept
swimmers from reaching shore, almost drowning two children. And several
jet ski riders or passengers have been knocked off their machines with
minor injuries. At least one dog has been drowned by a mute swan in
Michigan. The birds can weigh up to 39 lbs. and have a wingspan of nearly
6'. We aren't seeing many Canada geese this year, probably because the
swans are driving them away from our lake.

They don't bother me all that much, at least not when I'm carrying a
double-ended paddle when kayaking. Makes an excellent swan-repeller.

Max

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As a former certified lifeguard, I've rescued 3 people from almost certain
death by drowning (not including my water safety instructor).

During my certification test, after treading water for an hour, I was
instructed to approach the (flailing) instructor and make a rescue, after
assessing the chances of doing so successfully. Unbeknownst to me, the
instructor planned to use me as an example (because I was the biggest male
in the class) of how a panicked swimmer can turn on even the strongest
rescuer. He did teach me a good lesson but he learned one as well. I broke
free of his trap by breaking one of his ribs, at which point, I had to
actually rescue him. It turned out that being a wrestler is a lot like being
a lifeguard. Who knew?

In my youthful arrogance, I foolishly tempted fate by experimenting with rip
tides and other fast moving currents. I'm still a very good swimmer, but
like you Bob, I'm not a fast swimmer. That's ok though, I use the extra time
to assess the approach and rescue, and fatigue the struggling victim.

Scout


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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As interest in Bobsprit swells, I think it's best to be clear about
some things, even if my participation here will be quite limited here
for the next few months....

While everyone here is suddenly a retired Mark Spitz who repairs cruise
ship propellers underwater and using sea sponges for air....I'll
actually define my swimming ability honestly.

I currently weigh in an 215 lbs at 6'3 tall. My upper body is comprised
of longer muscle strands, which gives me good initial power well beyond
that of most men. At the age of 12 I passed a swimming test for
certificate allowing me to join in advanced water sports at PA private
camps. I was one of the youngest to pass.

Currently I'd rate my swimming ability as "good" but not exceptional.
There are folks who get to swim everyday. That means their muscles are
really in shape for that specific activity. No part time swimmer can
match this. I clean my own keel and can hold my breath longer than most
people. Under reasonable temps I could swim from even the widest point
of the LIS back to shore, which I think is a very basic capability for
folks who singlehand coastal. You should be able to swim a few miles
with ease and I don't think it's unreasonable for every sailor to be
capable of swimming 5-8 miles at least.
I'm not a fast swimmer, but I'm strong in the water and confident. Two
years ago we had a friend swimming near the boat suffer a panic attack.
It instantly eshausted him, but I was easily able to pull him from the
water. If you can't do this you shouldn't be on the water.

RB
35s5
NY


RB
35s5
NY

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Scout wrote:
During my certification test, after treading water for an hour, I was
instructed to approach the (flailing) instructor and make a rescue, after
assessing the chances of doing so successfully. Unbeknownst to me, the
instructor planned to use me as an example (because I was the biggest male
in the class) of how a panicked swimmer can turn on even the strongest
rescuer. He did teach me a good lesson but he learned one as well. I broke
free of his trap by breaking one of his ribs

OUCH!!

... at which point, I had to
actually rescue him. It turned out that being a wrestler is a lot like being
a lifeguard. Who knew?


I bet that'll larn him.

Lifeguard training is a very good idea for sailors. If you
hang around the water long enough, you'll almost certainly
be in a position to rescue somebody sometime.

I've pulled a bunch of people from the water, don't know if
any of them were certain to drown without me though. The
weirdest rescue is when I brought a person out of the surf
by crawling along the bottom.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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I think I'll pass on that.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Oh no....

Mute swans have become a problem in the Midwest this year. They have
proliferated to the point that there are insufficient "territories" for
the mated pairs. Mute swans are highly territorial, willing to fight
all interlopers who enter their space, especially when mated (they mate
for life) and have signets present. I've watched them chase jet skiers
(yeah!) and swimmers all over the place. The DNRs for both Michigan and
Indiana are considering allowing hunters to shoot a limited number of
them. There have been recorded episodes in which the swans have kept
swimmers from reaching shore, almost drowning two children. And several
jet ski riders or passengers have been knocked off their machines with
minor injuries. At least one dog has been drowned by a mute swan in
Michigan. The birds can weigh up to 39 lbs. and have a wingspan of
nearly 6'. We aren't seeing many Canada geese this year, probably
because the swans are driving them away from our lake.

They don't bother me all that much, at least not when I'm carrying a
double-ended paddle when kayaking. Makes an excellent swan-repeller.

Yeah, but you used to be a power boater! :-)

I still am. You should see my shoulders.

Max

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It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!
Scout

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I think I'll pass on that.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Oh no....

Mute swans have become a problem in the Midwest this year. They have
proliferated to the point that there are insufficient "territories" for
the mated pairs. Mute swans are highly territorial, willing to fight
all interlopers who enter their space, especially when mated (they mate
for life) and have signets present. I've watched them chase jet skiers
(yeah!) and swimmers all over the place. The DNRs for both Michigan
and Indiana are considering allowing hunters to shoot a limited number
of them. There have been recorded episodes in which the swans have
kept swimmers from reaching shore, almost drowning two children. And
several jet ski riders or passengers have been knocked off their
machines with minor injuries. At least one dog has been drowned by a
mute swan in Michigan. The birds can weigh up to 39 lbs. and have a
wingspan of nearly 6'. We aren't seeing many Canada geese this year,
probably because the swans are driving them away from our lake.

They don't bother me all that much, at least not when I'm carrying a
double-ended paddle when kayaking. Makes an excellent swan-repeller.

Yeah, but you used to be a power boater! :-)

I still am. You should see my shoulders.

Max

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Scout wrote:
During my certification test, after treading water for an hour, I was
instructed to approach the (flailing) instructor and make a rescue, after
assessing the chances of doing so successfully. Unbeknownst to me, the
instructor planned to use me as an example (because I was the biggest
male in the class) of how a panicked swimmer can turn on even the
strongest rescuer. He did teach me a good lesson but he learned one as
well. I broke free of his trap by breaking one of his ribs

OUCH!!

... at which point, I had to actually rescue him. It turned out that
being a wrestler is a lot like being a lifeguard. Who knew?


I bet that'll larn him.

Lifeguard training is a very good idea for sailors. If you hang around the
water long enough, you'll almost certainly be in a position to rescue
somebody sometime.

I've pulled a bunch of people from the water, don't know if any of them
were certain to drown without me though. The
weirdest rescue is when I brought a person out of the surf by crawling
along the bottom.

That's a new one on me!
Scout

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That's that the CHP told me. Sigh...

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It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!
Scout

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I think I'll pass on that.

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Oh no....

Mute swans have become a problem in the Midwest this year. They have
proliferated to the point that there are insufficient "territories"
for the mated pairs. Mute swans are highly territorial, willing to
fight all interlopers who enter their space, especially when mated
(they mate for life) and have signets present. I've watched them
chase jet skiers (yeah!) and swimmers all over the place. The DNRs
for both Michigan and Indiana are considering allowing hunters to
shoot a limited number of them. There have been recorded episodes in
which the swans have kept swimmers from reaching shore, almost
drowning two children. And several jet ski riders or passengers have
been knocked off their machines with minor injuries. At least one dog
has been drowned by a mute swan in Michigan. The birds can weigh up
to 39 lbs. and have a wingspan of nearly 6'. We aren't seeing many
Canada geese this year, probably because the swans are driving them
away from our lake.

They don't bother me all that much, at least not when I'm carrying a
double-ended paddle when kayaking. Makes an excellent swan-repeller.

Yeah, but you used to be a power boater! :-)

I still am. You should see my shoulders.

Max

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That's that the CHP told me. Sigh...

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It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!


I had an 18' wide load, going down I-95, in Philly, near the
Betsy Ross bridge, my front escorts were 2 Philly motorcycle
cops, a state cop car and my civilian escort. In back of me
were my 2 civilian escorts, a state cop car and a Philly cop
car And this ditzy broad passed us all on the freaking
shoulder!
One of the bike cops pulled her over and wrote 3 tickets.
Sheesh, some people!

Scotty

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That's that the CHP told me. Sigh...

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"Scout" wrote in message
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It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!


I had an 18' wide load, going down I-95, in Philly, near the
Betsy Ross bridge, my front escorts were 2 Philly motorcycle
cops, a state cop car and my civilian escort. In back of me
were my 2 civilian escorts, a state cop car and a Philly cop
car And this ditzy broad passed us all on the freaking
shoulder!
One of the bike cops pulled her over and wrote 3 tickets.
Sheesh, some people!

Did you get her name? I've no doubt we're going to see her name again: The
Annual Darwin Awards.

Max

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It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!


You mean driving?

Scotty wrote:
I had an 18' wide load, going down I-95, in Philly, near the
Betsy Ross bridge, my front escorts were 2 Philly motorcycle
cops, a state cop car and my civilian escort. In back of me
were my 2 civilian escorts, a state cop car and a Philly cop
car And this ditzy broad passed us all on the freaking
shoulder!
One of the bike cops pulled her over and wrote 3 tickets.
Sheesh, some people!


I bet she was trying to explain to the cops how she was in a
hurry for something *very* important... talking the cell
phone at the same time.

DSK

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"Maxprop" wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote:
Yeah, but you used to be a power boater! :-)

I still am. You should see my shoulders.

OKAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

LP (wondering if he's as cute as Scout)

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"Scout" wrote:
It's unsafe to pass on the shoulder!

You are soooo funny!

LP