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Today we went out in fairly light cool breezes with just the main.
We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat and so far it's going
great. He seems to really enjoy himself on deck, though we must watch
his exposure to the sun. His balance is really amazing...perhaps this
is something toddlers can do well, but my best friend's two year old
has a hard time on deck compared to Thomas. Thomas also automatically
seems to understand the one hand for the boat-one hand for yourself
system as he makes his way around. It's great fun to watch!
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off. It finally got to the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take weekend
trips with him.

Ideas from the "sailing with kids" camp are welcome!



RB
35s5
NY

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I've seen pictures of you sailing... you don't wear a life jacket at all
times. I do.... despite the fact I'm ten times a better swimmer than you
could hope to ever be. That being said... kids copy what they see. Get him a
comfortable vest and make sure he puts it on at the same time you do... upon
boarding any boat.

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Today we went out in fairly light cool breezes with just the main.
We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat and so far it's going
great. He seems to really enjoy himself on deck, though we must watch
his exposure to the sun. His balance is really amazing...perhaps this
is something toddlers can do well, but my best friend's two year old
has a hard time on deck compared to Thomas. Thomas also automatically
seems to understand the one hand for the boat-one hand for yourself
system as he makes his way around. It's great fun to watch!
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off. It finally got to the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take weekend
trips with him.

Ideas from the "sailing with kids" camp are welcome!



RB
35s5
NY

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OzOne wrote in message
So on a calm, beautiful sunny day, you put a jacket on?

Don't tell porkies CM..you'll never get to heaven.

If kids will be aboard... Yes! I've just never considered it a big deal. I
once confronted my friend who was having a hell of a time trying to convince
his 3 year old son to put on a life jacket.... yet he, himself wasn't
wearing one. I pointed it out to him that he never wore his life jacket
unless ordered... why expect different from his children?
Oddly enough once he started putting on his own life jacket... both his
young sons donned theirs without prompting. Lead by example.

I'm not a life jacket Nazi aboard.... I leave it to an adult's own comfort
level during coastal sails in fair weather. However I do not allow even the
most experienced of the children that sail on my boat to go on deck without
a lifejacket... even in fine weather. They can doff the vests if they remain
in the cockpit.

Heaven? I'm there now... upon my death, all scientific indicators point to
my reincarnation as fertilizer.

BTW Oz... what were your rules regarding safety aboard with your children
when they were pre-school and sailing with you?

CM

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My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out a PFD HE
likes. Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or something will make him WANT to wear the
jacket...
even around the house.


Better advise....and we're trying this now, making a game of wearing
the jacket. We also wear them of course with the hope he'll WANT to
wear one.
Thomas also tries to play with all of the controls, going for the wheel
(he knows what it does!), lines and he was eager to help me crank up
the mainsail...he's quite a guy!


RB
35s5
NY

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BTW Oz... what were your rules regarding safety aboard with your children
when they were pre-school and sailing with you?



OzOne wrote:
Same.
Once out of the cockpit in fair weather, PFD's.
Foul weather PFD in the cockpit
Real bad stuff...cabin full stop.
Night, PFD and harness no matter what.


Those are good rules.
One of the things that kids have to learn (and the sooner
the better) is that rules are rules... doesn't matter
whether you like it. Failure to teach this leads to misery
for both parents & kids.

DSK

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
... We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat....
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off.

In other words, you're letting him be stupid & spoiled, just
like you.

.... It finally got to the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take weekend
trips with him.


He wears it. Period. If he takes it off or makes a fuss,
then put him in time out if you can't paddle his butt. Most
parents can't nowadays, having been raised poorly themselves.

Putting a float belt on is the worst possible choice, that
would drown a child more quickly than just floating free would.



"silverback" wrote:
I've seen pictures of you sailing... you don't wear a life jacket at all
times. I do.... despite the fact I'm ten times a better swimmer than you
could hope to ever be.

That's a stupid thing to say when you really don't know how
good a swimmer Boobsie is (although evidence suggests he is
not).


... That being said... kids copy what they see. Get him a
comfortable vest and make sure he puts it on at the same time you do... upon
boarding any boat.


Guy Aerts wrote:
Poor advice. The vest goes on before they set foot on the dock. Docks are
perhaps a greater hazard to little kids than a boat.

Bingo. Having rescued a kid from under a dock, I can state
for sure that it's a nightmare scenario.


... There are no rails or
lifelines, and someone carrying a cooler or sailbag can turn to look at
something and knock a toddler off a dock without even realizing it.

Which isn't unlikely, and it's even more likely for little
kids to trip over a cleat or line, or lean over just a bit
too far looking at something, or just plain fall (hey it
happens to the everyone once in a while).

.... If the kid
goes off the dock and comes up under it, you've got a serious situation all of a
sudden. How fast can you find them when they are jammed up between some blocks
of styrofoam under water?

My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out a PFD HE likes. Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or something will make him WANT to wear the jacket...
even around the house.


Yes. Make a game out of wearing it, reward him for wearing
so he'll get to like it... but don't let a lack of parental
spine keep the kid from being protected. And don't make the
mistake of assuming that nothing can go wrong because he's
wearing a life jacket. It is quite possible to drown while
wearing one (or have some other harmful accident).

In many states now (and probably soon to be universal)
children must be wearing life jackets any time they are
aboard any boat, unless they are inside the boat's cabin.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Put the PFD on Thomas and tell him what a good time you're going to have
out there in the cockpit..if he squawks about the PFD say "ohoh, time to
go below" and take off the PFD and place him below....if he wants back
up put the PFD back on and say more about the fun in the cockpit...soon
as he squawks, repeat the catch phrase "ohoh, time to go below" and take
him there sans PFD...repeat this for as long as it takes...he is at an
excellent age to begin using Love and Logic techniques...if you start
now, you will never have to argue about disciplinary actions...when you
say the catch phrase, amke sure you use a light or matter-of-fact voice
and not a stern grumpy sound...you don't want to appear angry or upset,

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OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 07:51:37 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:

Put the PFD on Thomas and tell him what a good time you're going to have
out there in the cockpit..if he squawks about the PFD say "ohoh, time to
go below" and take off the PFD and place him below....if he wants back
up put the PFD back on and say more about the fun in the cockpit...soon
as he squawks, repeat the catch phrase "ohoh, time to go below" and take
him there sans PFD...repeat this for as long as it takes...he is at an
excellent age to begin using Love and Logic techniques...if you start
now, you will never have to argue about disciplinary actions...when you
say the catch phrase, amke sure you use a light or matter-of-fact voice
and not a stern grumpy sound...you don't want to appear angry or upset,

Woof!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Consequential learning works well on children....discussing and
explaining to a two year old is futile, useless, and a waste of
energy...and dangerous....better to learn cause and effect early than
later on or never (which seems to be the case with many children these
days if the school system is any indicator)....

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If he takes it off or makes a fuss,
then put him in time out if you can't paddle his butt.



"Capt" Rob wrote:
I'll let Doug's idiotic statement, suggested for a 21 month old, stand
as evidence of his parental skills.

Well, I'm not a parent. Never wanted to be.

Which is a shame, because the world needs more people like
me and far less like you.

Of course you cannot benefit from my advice, because you're
too stupid and too spoiled. I didn't expect you to, partly
because I'm not convinced you have either a real boat or a
real child, since the only thing you have proven is that
you're a pathological liar.

DSK

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What about those swimming classes? Kids wear a life jacket in them and he
should be used to one by now and know what it does.

Amen!

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Get a camoflague or "Sands of Iwo Jima" life jacket.



"Guy Aerts" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 04:17:45 GMT, "silverback"
wrote:

I've seen pictures of you sailing... you don't wear a life jacket at all
times. I do.... despite the fact I'm ten times a better swimmer than you
could hope to ever be. That being said... kids copy what they see. Get him
a
comfortable vest and make sure he puts it on at the same time you do...
upon
boarding any boat.

CM


Poor advice. The vest goes on before they set foot on the dock. Docks are
perhaps a greater hazard to little kids than a boat. There are no rails or
lifelines, and someone carrying a cooler or sailbag can turn to look at
something and knock a toddler off a dock without even realizing it. If the
kid
goes off the dock and comes up under it, you've got a serious situation
all of a
sudden. How fast can you find them when they are jammed up between some
blocks
of styrofoam under water?

My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out a PFD HE likes.
Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or something will make him WANT to wear the
jacket...
even around the house.




"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
groups.com...
Today we went out in fairly light cool breezes with just the main.
We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat and so far it's going
great. He seems to really enjoy himself on deck, though we must watch
his exposure to the sun. His balance is really amazing...perhaps this
is something toddlers can do well, but my best friend's two year old
has a hard time on deck compared to Thomas. Thomas also automatically
seems to understand the one hand for the boat-one hand for yourself
system as he makes his way around. It's great fun to watch!
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off. It finally got to the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take weekend
trips with him.

Ideas from the "sailing with kids" camp are welcome!



RB
35s5
NY

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Capt" Rob wrote:
... We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat....
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off.

In other words, you're letting him be stupid & spoiled, just like you.

.... It finally got to the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take weekend
trips with him.


He wears it. Period. If he takes it off or makes a fuss, then put him in
time out if you can't paddle his butt. Most parents can't nowadays, having
been raised poorly themselves.

Putting a float belt on is the worst possible choice, that would drown a
child more quickly than just floating free would.



"silverback" wrote:
I've seen pictures of you sailing... you don't wear a life jacket at all
times. I do.... despite the fact I'm ten times a better swimmer than you
could hope to ever be.

That's a stupid thing to say when you really don't know how good a swimmer
Boobsie is (although evidence suggests he is not).


... That being said... kids copy what they see. Get him a comfortable
vest and make sure he puts it on at the same time you do... upon
boarding any boat.


Guy Aerts wrote:
Poor advice. The vest goes on before they set foot on the dock. Docks are
perhaps a greater hazard to little kids than a boat.

Bingo. Having rescued a kid from under a dock, I can state for sure that
it's a nightmare scenario.


... There are no rails or
lifelines, and someone carrying a cooler or sailbag can turn to look at
something and knock a toddler off a dock without even realizing it.

Which isn't unlikely, and it's even more likely for little kids to trip
over a cleat or line, or lean over just a bit too far looking at
something, or just plain fall (hey it happens to the everyone once in a
while).

.... If the kid
goes off the dock and comes up under it, you've got a serious situation
all of a
sudden. How fast can you find them when they are jammed up between some
blocks
of styrofoam under water?

My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out a PFD HE
likes. Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or something will make him WANT to wear the
jacket...
even around the house.


Yes. Make a game out of wearing it, reward him for wearing so he'll get to
like it... but don't let a lack of parental spine keep the kid from being
protected. And don't make the mistake of assuming that nothing can go
wrong because he's wearing a life jacket. It is quite possible to drown
while wearing one (or have some other harmful accident).

In many states now (and probably soon to be universal) children must be
wearing life jackets any time they are aboard any boat, unless they are
inside the boat's cabin.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Excellent post Doug! At least you understand parental responsibilities.

I can't believe that people are letting a 2 year old get their way,
especially in a matter of safety. Good lord!

By this age Little Lord Fauntleroy should respect his parents commands and
understand when there is no messing around.

But that's what you get when you bring kids up distanced from nature and in
front of a tv.

Glory!

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Bob Crantz wrote:
What about those swimming classes? Kids wear a life jacket in them and he
should be used to one by now and know what it does.

Amen!


Thomas had swimming lessons and is quite the swimmer now. Still, the
water here is in the mid 50's so he'll wait a month before dangling his
tootsies off the swim platform.

Thomas remains tethered at all times while we're underway via his own
jack line to the pedestal guard. He's also always with an adult. He's
very safe, but we want to instill the right message early. We'll be
sailing again later today...so we'll see if maybe he was just overtired
yesterday....which is what Suzanne thinks.

So far Thomas loves the boat!



RB
35s5
NY

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"katy" wrote in message
Consequential learning works well on children....discussing and explaining
to a two year old is futile, useless, and a waste of energy...and
dangerous....better to learn cause and effect early than later on or never
(which seems to be the case with many children these days if the school
system is any indicator)....

The old method I was brought up with is still the best... do what you're
told or get a beating. The day you can make your own rules is when you have
your own place and support yourself.
I moved into my own apartment at 15 yrs old, had a job working evenings at
the local theater and went to school during the day. I bought my first car
at 16 and my first boat at 17.

This modern day molly-coddling is what's wrong with the kids today.

CM-

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"Guy Aerts" wrote in message

Poor advice. The vest goes on before they set foot on the dock. Docks are
perhaps a greater hazard to little kids than a boat. There are no rails or
lifelines, and someone carrying a cooler or sailbag can turn to look at
something and knock a toddler off a dock without even realizing it. If the
kid
goes off the dock and comes up under it, you've got a serious situation
all of a
sudden. How fast can you find them when they are jammed up between some
blocks
of styrofoam under water?

Good Point... considering docks are no different than boat to Bobsprit
anyway. :)...it's simply that I rarely utilize a dock. 99% of the time it's
a shore launch with a dinghy.

My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out a PFD HE likes.
Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or something will make him WANT to wear the
jacket...
even around the house.

Also a good idea.

CM

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"DSK" wrote in message
That's a stupid thing to say when you really don't know how good a swimmer
Boobsie is (although evidence suggests he is not).

Try to engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear Doug... I have
Divemaster certification, I have Lifeguard certification. I've swam since I
was 13 months old. I free dive to 40+ feet spearfishing. I live along the
shore and can swim anytime. I was raised in a marine environment.
Bobsprit has lived his whole life in NYC and there is no way he could
acheive my swimming capabilities by pool visits for an hour... once or twice
a week. You think he would swim in LIS??

I rest my case.....

CM-

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Mooron = Tarzan

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Bob Crantz wrote:
Mooron = Tarzan


BS=cheetah?

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silverback wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
Consequential learning works well on children....discussing and explaining
to a two year old is futile, useless, and a waste of energy...and
dangerous....better to learn cause and effect early than later on or never
(which seems to be the case with many children these days if the school
system is any indicator)....

The old method I was brought up with is still the best... do what you're
told or get a beating. The day you can make your own rules is when you have
your own place and support yourself.
I moved into my own apartment at 15 yrs old, had a job working evenings at
the local theater and went to school during the day. I bought my first car
at 16 and my first boat at 17.

This modern day molly-coddling is what's wrong with the kids today.

CM-


You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you at 2 then shame on
them....has nothing to do with modern day anything...babies should not
ever be beaten...12 years olds...now, that could be a different story....

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Parenting 101 .

Better read your Dr. Spock book some more, Bubbles.

SV

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Today we went out in fairly light cool breezes with just
the main.
We're trying to get Thomas used to the boat and so far
it's going
great. He seems to really enjoy himself on deck, though we
must watch
his exposure to the sun. His balance is really
amazing...perhaps this
is something toddlers can do well, but my best friend's
two year old
has a hard time on deck compared to Thomas. Thomas also
automatically
seems to understand the one hand for the boat-one hand for
yourself
system as he makes his way around. It's great fun to
watch!
But today he put up the biggest fuss of all time when we
put his
lifejacket on and he kept taking it off. It finally got to
the point
where we just put a Stearns belt on him, but that's not
the right PFD
for a toddler. He also wears a harness so he can't fall
off the boat.
We all wore vests and that was working up until today. He
really has
fun on the boat...but hates the PFD, though it fits him
properly.
Suzanne thought it might just be too warm and he's aware
of such things
now.
We obviously need to get this working right before we take
weekend
trips with him.

Ideas from the "sailing with kids" camp are welcome!



RB
35s5
NY

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"silverback" wrote in

If kids will be aboard... Yes! I've just never considered
it a big deal. I
once confronted my friend who was having a hell of a time
trying to convince
his 3 year old son to put on a life jacket.... yet he,
himself wasn't
wearing one. I pointed it out to him that he never wore
his life jacket
unless ordered... why expect different from his children?
Oddly enough once he started putting on his own life
jacket... both his
young sons donned theirs without prompting. Lead by
example.


When I used to take Scouts sailing, the rule was all kids
wear PFDs, all the time. Didn't matter if I wore one or
knot. One time, a boy had his loose, down around his waist.
Tried the old argument that it was still on. I had him take
it off, threw him in the water and made him swim behind the
boat for a mile or so. Never had any more problems.

Scotty

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"Gay Arts" wrote



My other advice is go to the store and let Thomas pick out
a PFD HE likes. Maybe
Spiderman or Spongebob or

Which one do you have?

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OzOne wrote



You should get married, have kids and totally screw up
your life.


Bite your tongue Ozzy, his life is already screwed up, why
screw up a kid, too!

SV

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--
"Swab Rob" wrote

Thomas remains tethered at all times while we're underway
via his own
jack line to the pedestal guard. He's also always with an
adult.

Did you hire one?

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Scotty wrote:
"silverback" wrote in
If kids will be aboard... Yes! I've just never considered
it a big deal. I
once confronted my friend who was having a hell of a time
trying to convince
his 3 year old son to put on a life jacket.... yet he,
himself wasn't
wearing one. I pointed it out to him that he never wore
his life jacket
unless ordered... why expect different from his children?
Oddly enough once he started putting on his own life
jacket... both his
young sons donned theirs without prompting. Lead by
example.


When I used to take Scouts sailing, the rule was all kids
wear PFDs, all the time. Didn't matter if I wore one or
knot. One time, a boy had his loose, down around his waist.
Tried the old argument that it was still on. I had him take
it off, threw him in the water and made him swim behind the
boat for a mile or so. Never had any more problems.

Scotty


You can't do that to a 2 year old....

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"silverback" wrote in
If kids will be aboard... Yes! I've just never
considered
it a big deal. I
once confronted my friend who was having a hell of a
time
trying to convince
his 3 year old son to put on a life jacket.... yet he,
himself wasn't
wearing one. I pointed it out to him that he never wore
his life jacket
unless ordered... why expect different from his
children?
Oddly enough once he started putting on his own life
jacket... both his
young sons donned theirs without prompting. Lead by
example.


When I used to take Scouts sailing, the rule was all
kids
wear PFDs, all the time. Didn't matter if I wore one or
knot. One time, a boy had his loose, down around his
waist.
Tried the old argument that it was still on. I had him
take
it off, threw him in the water and made him swim behind
the
boat for a mile or so. Never had any more problems.

Scotty


You can't do that to a 2 year old....

Unless you tied a rope to him.

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"katy" wrote in message

You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you at 2 then shame on
them....

I'm not stating the old "Rule of Thumb" nor the "Balled Fist" here.... a
smack on the butt gets attention right away.

So... Kitty... tell us about the first time you were spanked! ;-)

CM-

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"silverback" wrote in message
news:6dFjg.49260$S61.12606@edtnps90...

"katy" wrote in message

You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you at
2 then shame on
them....

I'm not stating the old "Rule of Thumb" nor the "Balled
Fist" here.... a
smack on the butt gets attention right away.

So... Kitty... tell us about the first time you were
spanked! ;-)

and the last time. :o

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silverback wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you at 2 then shame on
them....

I'm not stating the old "Rule of Thumb" nor the "Balled Fist" here.... a
smack on the butt gets attention right away.

So... Kitty... tell us about the first time you were spanked! ;-)

CM-


Can't remember...was most likely my mother with a hairbrush or ping pong
paddle (remember those with the little rubber ball that always flew
off?) My Dad didn't believe father's should spank daughters unless it
was of the utmost gravity....my brother got the belt all the time (he
deserved it)...Funny thing is that my brother never raised a hand to his
own son, who just graduated from high school with a 4.0 average and is
an Eagle Scout....physical punishment works with some and it doesn't
work for others...in some it is a great disruptor of bad behavior, in
others it just instills rebellion....you have to be a careful parent and
know what you're doing and how far you can go....

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Scotty wrote:
"silverback" wrote in message
news:6dFjg.49260$S61.12606@edtnps90...
"katy" wrote in message

You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you at
2 then shame on
them....
I'm not stating the old "Rule of Thumb" nor the "Balled
Fist" here.... a
smack on the butt gets attention right away.

So... Kitty... tell us about the first time you were
spanked! ;-)

and the last time. :o


the last time? my brother caught me across the rear with a spatula when
I was 17...I fif my aim had been better, he would still be wearing a
fork through his butt.....

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That's a stupid thing to say when you really don't know how good a swimmer
Boobsie is (although evidence suggests he is not).


silverback wrote:
Try to engage your brain before putting your mouth in gear Doug...

Ever wonder why people think you're a dumbass? Stuff like this.



.... I have
Divemaster certification, I have Lifeguard certification. I've swam since I
was 13 months old. I free dive to 40+ feet spearfishing. I live along the
shore and can swim anytime. I was raised in a marine environment.

So?

Bobsprit has lived his whole life in NYC and there is no way he could
acheive my swimming capabilities by pool visits for an hour... once or twice
a week. You think he would swim in LIS??

1- assuming that "Bobsprit" is a real person, unless you've
followed him around for the past 20 years, you have no way
of guessing what his swimming abilities are.

2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I
achieved a Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to
Ocracoke and back before breakfast every morning. See?




I rest my case.....


You've been resting it too long, that's the problem.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
...


2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I achieved a
Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to Ocracoke and back before
breakfast every morning. See?


Not true!

I'm fat, stupid, poor and own no boat!

Amen!

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Dr Spock was a Commie.

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"DSK" wrote in message
Ever wonder why people think you're a dumbass? Stuff like this.

I doubt they consider me much at all... you on the other hand.... seemed to
have refined acting like a pompous ass all the while extracting one or both
feet from your mouth... to a fine art.

1- assuming that "Bobsprit" is a real person, unless you've followed him
around for the past 20 years, you have no way of guessing what his
swimming abilities are.

Oh Doubting Doug.... just because Bobsprit is as fat as a walrus dosen't
make him a good swimmer. Suck It Up!


2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I achieved a
Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to Ocracoke and back before
breakfast every morning. See?

How did you get so cynical..... ???

You've been resting it too long, that's the problem.

I wasn't the one that needed to step down to a powerboat...

CM

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Bob Crantz wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...



2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I achieved a
Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to Ocracoke and back before
breakfast every morning. See?



Not true!

I'm fat, stupid, poor and own no boat!

Amen!

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2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I achieved a
Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to Ocracoke and back before
breakfast every morning. See?



Bob Crantz wrote:
Not true!

I'm fat, stupid, poor and own no boat!


Yes but you're the exception which proves the rule.

DSK

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I'm fat, stupid, poor and own no boat!



Trying to make Mooron jealous? I think it's working.



RB
35s5
NY

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1- assuming that "Bobsprit" is a real person, unless you've followed him
around for the past 20 years, you have no way of guessing what his
swimming abilities are.


silverback wrote:
Oh Doubting Doug.... just because Bobsprit is as fat as a walrus dosen't
make him a good swimmer. Suck It Up!


Take a look at the physique of some cross-Channel swimmers
before you make dumbass statements like that.


In any event, you're doing the same thing Bobsprit does...
insult other people for no real reason, while bragging.



2- on the Internet, everybody is rich & good-looking. I achieved a
Divemaster certificate at age 7 and swim out to Ocracoke and back before
breakfast every morning. See?


How did you get so cynical..... ???


I'm not cynical, I'm a realist.


You've been resting it too long, that's the problem.


I wasn't the one that needed to step down to a powerboat...


Now you're really getting in the groove, bobsilverspit! Good
work.

DSK

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Bob Crantz wrote:
Dr Spock was a Commie.

So am I.

RB

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
"silverback" wrote in message
news:6dFjg.49260$S61.12606@edtnps90...
"katy" wrote in message

You don't beat 2 year olds...if your parents beat you
at
2 then shame on
them....
I'm not stating the old "Rule of Thumb" nor the "Balled
Fist" here.... a
smack on the butt gets attention right away.

So... Kitty... tell us about the first time you were
spanked! ;-)

and the last time. :o


the last time? my brother caught me across the rear with
a spatula when I was 17...I fif my aim had been better, he
would still be wearing a fork through his butt....

Foof, looks like your aim was to the point!

:^D