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Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Washington Post just did a full review of our new van....
A Smart Package of Power, Comfort and Value By Warren Brown Washington Post Staff Writer Sunday, June 4, 2006; Page G01 Kia Motors Corp. makes the best minivan for the money -- better than the Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town & Country or the Dodge Caravan. The rivals are all nice family haulers. But nice doesn't cut it in the marketplace. Value does. 2006 Kia Sedona Minivan Nuts & Bolts 2006 Kia Sedona LX Minivan Complaints: None. This one is everything a minivan should be, including affordable. Ride, acceleration and handling: Excellent in all three categories in city and highway traffic, whether unloaded (driver only, no cargo) or heavily loaded (driver and three passengers and an estimated 250 pounds of cargo). Head-turning quotient: It's a minivan. That means it gets as much attention as Hollywood gives to stable families. Body style/layout: The Kia Sedona LX is a front-engine, front-wheel-drive minivan with four side doors (manually operated sliding rear doors) and a rear hatch. Automatically operated sliding rear doors are available. It also is sold with the upscale EX trim package. Engine/transmission: The Sedona minivan comes with a standard 3.8-liter V-6 engine that develops 244 horsepower at 6,000 revolutions per minute and 253 foot-pounds of torque at 3,500 rpm. The engine is mated to a five-speed automatic transmission that also can be shifted manually. The manual mode gives the driver better vehicle control on mountainous, curvy roads. Capacities: It seats seven. Cargo capacity with second- and third-row seats down is 142 cubic feet. With seats up, it's 32.2 cubic feet. The fuel tank holds 21.1 gallons of recommended regular unleaded gasoline. Mileage: I averaged 25 miles per gallon in highway travel. And that included loaded and unloaded runs! Safety: The Kia Sedona has top crash-safety ratings from both the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. No wonder. Standard equipment includes head airbags for all three rows, side air bags for front-seat passengers, traction and stability control, anti-whiplash head restraints, antilock brakes. Impressive. Price: Base price on the 2006 Kia Sedona LX is $22,995. Dealer's invoice price on base model is $21,700. Price as tested is $25,165, including $1,500 in options (rear entertainment audio-visual system, roof rails and cross bars) and a $670 destination charge. Dealer's price as tested is $23,680. Prices sourced from Kia, http://www.edmunds.com/ and http://www.cars.com/ , an affiliate of The Washington Post. Purse strings: It's a buy. Compare with any mid-sized minivan. Cars For car reviews, videos, advice and help buying or selling a vehicle, visit Cars at washingtonpost.com. Cars Buy Sell Experts & Advice Coupons Save & Share Tag This Article Saving options 1. Save to description: Headline (required) Byline 2. Save to notes (255 character max): Blurb 3. Tag This Article The 2006 Kia Sedona LX minivan offers the most value, which is not to be confused with the lowest price. Low prices are meaningless for inferior products. The Kia Sedona is first-class in all respects -- quality of craftsmanship and engineering, quality of interior materials, highway performance and safety. I liked the Sedona LX so much, I didn't want to return it to the manufacturer. A minivan! I couldn't believe it! But after nearly 600 miles on the highways, byways and back roads of Virginia and West Virginia, I became a convert. The front-wheel-drive Sedona LX handled the heights of the Blue Ridge Mountains without hesitation. It was sure-footed in the curves and dips of the Shenandoah Valley, and it ran with unruffled confidence amidst the ruffian 18-wheelers roaring along Interstate 81 across the eastern panhandle of West Virginia. And it was peaceful -- peaceful! Minivans exist solely to haul families, friends and stuff. That is why most minivans, like the Sedona LX, have seating for seven people. But people can be problematical. They have wants and needs that become demands and arguments on long road trips. It matters not that you love them, or that they love you. Uncomfortable passengers can turn a long drive into a journey to hell. A comfortable passenger cabin -- one that grants all aboard ample personal space and that treats their backs and bottoms kindly -- is the best antidote to such misery. The Sedona LX has a passenger-pampering cabin, which is all the more remarkable because there is nothing fancy about it. The standard seats are cloth-covered. But they are thoughtfully contoured, expertly upholstered. There is a smartly designed front tray that can hold a book or laptop -- or serve as a small dinner table. Other storage nooks abound. There are 14 cupholders. None of my three passengers complained on the Virginia-West Virginia run. There were no jibes about a ride too harsh, too soft or too bouncy. Two of them were so comfortable, they fell asleep. Peace reigned! Hallelujah! Automotive journalists and self-described auto enthusiasts often speak of "fun to drive," a phrase they reserve for anything that isn't a minivan, a vehicle they regard as uncool, little more than a household appliance. They do not understand the point of the journey, which is to move freely, swiftly when doing so is either necessary or desired, but always safely and comfortably -- preferably at an affordable price. The Sedona LX embraces that understanding. In doing so, it makes so much of what is installed in rival minivans seem excessive. Here is a minivan that comes with a gutsy 3.8-liter, 244-horsepower V-6 engine but that still gets 25 miles per gallon on the highway using regular unleaded fuel. It fits neatly into urban parking garages. It has top crash-safety ratings from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. It does anything anyone reasonably can expect a minivan to do, and it does it all for a base price starting under $23,000. The Kia Sedona LX moves to the top of this column's minivan list. It's earned it. |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Capt. Rob wrote: No one give a **** about your crappy Kia asshole. Joe |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: No one give a **** about your crappy Kia asshole. Joe It's a van, Joe. Hint: Up your meds! RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Capt. Rob wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: No one give a **** about your crappy Kia asshole. Joe It's a van, Joe. Hint: Up your meds! RB 35s5 NY No one gives a **** bonehead. It's as lame as Suzy's boat. STFU about it. Who give a rats ass that you bought a lame Korean kar with the money someone else made for you. Hint: You're pathetic. Joe |
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Who give a rats ass Well, Joseph...judging by your total meltdown...YOU seem to care quite a bit. Too much in fact. I'm sorry if you're offended that I have money or that I inherited it and so on. Sorry you worked hard and ended up with so little. That's a drag, but it's your own fault. Hint: Find a life and live it! RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Capt. Rob wrote: Who give a rats ass Well, Joseph...judging by your total meltdown...YOU seem to care quite a bit. Too much in fact. I'm sorry if you're offended that I have money or that I inherited it and so on. Sorry you worked hard and ended up with so little. That's a drag, but it's your own fault. Hint: Find a life and live it! RB 35s5 NY Rosie...what meltdown? Everyone is sick of hearing of your POS soccor mom's van. Ever think about posting something about sailing here? Where are the 35s5 sailing pic's....bwahahahahaha All you have is due to others efforts, not yours. I have plenty and I made it myself, sorry if that makes a pathetic spoiled brat braggard like you angry. Joe |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
All you have is due to others efforts, not yours. Not true. I was the one who flew to Florida 3 times to find our latest boat! I have more than you....and always will, Joe. Live with it. RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
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Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: No one give a **** about your crappy Kia asshole. Joe It's a booring car, which seems appropriate somehow. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
It's a booring car, which seems appropriate somehow. I also own a STI, a faster sports car than anything owned by anyone here. I wonder if Ganzy even owns a car. Probably not. RB 35s5 NY |
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-- "Swab Rob" wrote I also own a STI, a faster sports car than anything owned by anyone here. I wonder if Ganzy even owns a car. Some asswipe said that no one can own anything. Now, who was that asswipe, and do you disagree with him? SV |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Washington Post just did a full review of our new van.... A Smart Package of Power, Comfort and Value C'mon, Bob. This troll has gone on for long enough! We all know that you are not stupid enough to buy a Kia Sedona! You only buy "well regarded" products, because you are too weak willed to make up your own mind about anything. The Sedona is definetly not well regarded! In fact, it seems to be the motoring equivalend of the Coronado!! Here are the views of previous Sedona owners: "If you buy cheap, you get cheap" "Nice luxury van, but not a reliable source of transportation" "This van stinks!!!" "Not a trustworthy or well built van" "Tough abused van!" "You get what you pay for. If you leased it you probably did well. If you bought, Ouch!!" "Words cannot explain" Regards Donal -- |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Here are the views of previous Sedona owners: "If you buy cheap, you get cheap" "Nice luxury van, but not a reliable source of transportation" "This van stinks!!!" "Not a trustworthy or well built van" "Tough abused van!" "You get what you pay for. If you leased it you probably did well. If you bought, Ouch!!" "Words cannot explain" Golly!!! Something tells me Donal will utterly fail to provide a link to the comments above for the 2006 Kia Sedona!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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Now, who was that asswipe???
I think it was your MOM!!! Bwahahahahahhahaha! RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Here are the views of previous Sedona owners: "If you buy cheap, you get cheap" "Nice luxury van, but not a reliable source of transportation" "This van stinks!!!" "Not a trustworthy or well built van" "Tough abused van!" "You get what you pay for. If you leased it you probably did well. If you bought, Ouch!!" "Words cannot explain" Golly!!! Something tells me Donal will utterly fail to provide a link to the comments above for the 2006 Kia Sedona!!! Good grief!!! Something tells me that Bob has forgotten that I don't bull****! Here is the link! http://www.carsurvey.org/custom_newentries_19.html ....And here is a quote from just one of the disgruntled Sedona owners :- "What things have gone wrong with the car? The driver's seat falling apart. Passenger door handle won't go back to the way it's supposed to. Rust spots in various spots. The air conditioner wasn't keeping cool last summer '05' and this summer, the ac won't even start. The interior rear lights work when they want to. Gas mileage isn't nearly what I thought it would be. I understand that I came from a small car into a minivan, but my mother gets better gas mileage than I do and she's got a chevy venture. My husband and I get about the same mileage and he's got a dully truck. I love the way the new 2006 looks, but I don't know if cheap is really the way to go. Thanks for your time. Illinois." Regards Donal -- |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
I had a feeling you'd post that link. Those are not for the new Sedona. It's an all new Minivan that has about as nothing in common with the old one. If you'd like to see what owners are saying.... http://autos.msn.com/research/userre...?modelid=12019 It's the highest rated car of ANY kind on MSN reviews. But let's try Edmunds.... http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/kia/..._consumer.html Okay...everyone likes the Sedona...but copying the Sienna for 32K is no big trick...yet Chrysler can't come close. Now....really...in spite of Kia's effort to build an upscale minivan (The old Sedona was nothing of the sort), we have really no idea how this thing will hold up. The warranty is great, but who wants to have to use it on a regular basis to fix a laundry list of problems? Only the next 24 months will tell if the Sedona...a pretty pricey 3rd car for us...made sense. So far, the thing is really fun and comfy with an amazing Infinity sound system and Garmin nav. I have yet to hit any rocks. The sad thing is that now even the Korean builders have outrun the US carmakers in every way. Yikes. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Swab Rob" wrote I also own a STI, a faster sports car than anything owned by anyone here. I wonder if Ganzy even owns a car. Still waiting for a photo of Bubbles sitting in the driver's seat of that STI. I think he only owns one in his dreams. Max |
Best Minivan Ever for WORST Sailor ever !
"Maxprop" wrote in message Still waiting for a photo of Bubbles sitting in the driver's seat of that STI. I think he only owns one in his dreams. Heh... he posted a picture of his Spyder.... er-r-r-r ...Spider! "Club a Seal... Save a Cod!" CM- |
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-- "Swab Rob" wrote Now, who was that asswipe??? I think it was my MOM!!! No, it was you. |
Best Minivan Ever for WORST Sailor ever !
I think it was your MOM!!! No, it was you. I'm your MOM!!!???? Dude, you're one sick puppy! RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for WORST Sailor ever !
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:vw6hg.15134$I61.4646@clgrps13... "Maxprop" wrote in message Still waiting for a photo of Bubbles sitting in the driver's seat of that STI. I think he only owns one in his dreams. Heh... he posted a picture of his Spyder.... er-r-r-r ...Spider! Yeah, that was one hot . . . um . . . arachnid. "Club a Seal... Save a Cod!" "Club a seal hunter . . . save a species." Max |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... I had a feeling you'd post that link. Those are not for the new Sedona. It's an all new Minivan that has about as nothing in common with the old one. If you'd like to see what owners are saying.... http://autos.msn.com/research/userre...?modelid=12019 It's the highest rated car of ANY kind on MSN reviews. But let's try Edmunds.... http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/kia/..._consumer.html Skoda also scores very highly in customer satisfaction reviews. However, your accountant doesn't drive a Skoda. He doesn't drive a Sedona for the same reason. Have you ever seen a sucessful film director in a Skoda or a Kia? Of course not!! Both cars signify failure. I cannot believe that you are driving a Kia. I bet that you really drive a Lexus! Regards Donal -- |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
However, your accountant doesn't drive a Skoda. He doesn't drive a Sedona for the same reason. Actually, my accountant sails a J35 and drives the old Sedona for moving people and sailing gear. It's about as good as a dodge caravan. My attorney sails a Tayana 48 DS and loves our Sedona so much he's trying to dump out of his Jeep lease early. As you can read for yourself, the new Sedona is a whole new minivan and a serious stab at the class leaders, besting them in several areas. But didn't you just say I only follow tried and true items....yet I bought one of the very 1st Subaru Tribeca's and Sedonas....Hmmmm. Looks like I shot down every one of your trolls...with ease as usual. Why did you trade to a powerboat? RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
I cannot believe that you are driving a Kia. I bet that you really drive a Lexus! Donal...we can clearly learn a lot from you. Please direct us to a page showing the current Lexus minivan. I must have missed it. RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Speaking of cars...Did I mention that I bought one of these for my
wife a few months back? http://www.mynrma.com.au/peugeot_407_st_hdi.asp We call that spousal abuse here. RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
Then you'd be ignorant of quality vehicles.
Yeah...some quality. The name just rolls off the tongue. Dealer network ran from the USA with the highest level of major failures since Yugo hit the streets. No thanks. RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
That was a long time ago...when they were trying to match the quality of US cars ;-) Mission accomplished! RB 35s5 NY |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
OzOne wrote:
Speaking of cars...Did I mention that I bought one of these for my wife a few months back? http://www.mynrma.com.au/peugeot_407_st_hdi.asp The six speed manual? Now that's cool. Our "new" car, the Toyota Camry we bought a few years back, just turned over 105k miles and still in showroom shape. I'm going to wait a few more years and buy a hybrid. Regards Doug King |
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The six speed manual? Now that's cool.
Mys Terry wrote: Yeah. That engine must have a very narrow power band to need 6 speeds. Is it also available with a dump truck body? If ya can't find 'em, grind 'em. Why assume a narrow power band, why not a higher top speed and better passing gear? I drove a 5 speed for year that topped out at ~150 and wished many times for a sixth gear. OTOH if the wife stalking is a bit slow this morning and you obviously have no intelligent comment to make, why not. DSK |
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Why assume a narrow power band, why not a higher top speed and better passing gear? I drove a 5 speed for year that topped out at ~150 and wished many times for a sixth gear. Doug, read the reviews for the 407. It does indeed have a pretty poor and narrow powerband. The 6 speed tranny is a downstream from a much better engine config. RB 35s5 NY |
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Mys Terry wrote:
Sure Doug. What car were you driving 150 mph, and which video arcade was it? You're the stalker, why don't you know? Not very good at it? That car was a 911S, the manual said it should do 155 IIRC. A six shift would have been very handy in the higher speed range for hills & for passing. Nobody ever complained the 901 series had "a narrow power band" and the S had bigger pots anyway. DSK |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"DSK" wrote in message ... The six speed manual? Now that's cool. Mys Terry wrote: Yeah. That engine must have a very narrow power band to need 6 speeds. Is it also available with a dump truck body? If ya can't find 'em, grind 'em. Why assume a narrow power band, why not a higher top speed and better passing gear? I drove a 5 speed for year that topped out at ~150 and wished many times for a sixth gear. I like my 18 speed Roadranger. I must have a narrow power band, huh? SBV |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
You got her a diesel? Do you guys have self serve stations
like we do? Many stations sell diesel? Scotty OzOne wrote in message ... On 8 Jun 2006 05:13:41 -0700, "Capt. Rob" scribbled thusly: I cannot believe that you are driving a Kia. I bet that you really drive a Lexus! Donal...we can clearly learn a lot from you. Please direct us to a page showing the current Lexus minivan. I must have missed it. RB 35s5 NY Speaking of cars...Did I mention that I bought one of these for my wife a few months back? http://www.mynrma.com.au/peugeot_407_st_hdi.asp Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
That car was a 911S, the manual said it should do 155 IIRC.
Mys Terry wrote: Again, I'll ask, where did you ever drive at 150 mph besides in your dreams? Shall we take this as admission that you're a lamer that never actually does anything, just daydreams? Some of us have actual lives and really get out & do cool stuff. I can understand why you're so resentful & bitter. DSK |
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Scotty wrote:
I like my 18 speed Roadranger. I must have a narrow power band, huh? According to BB's rules of engineering, that power band would be about as wide as an RC hair. DSK |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
OzOne wrote in message ... Speaking of cars...Did I mention that I bought one of these for my wife a few months back? http://www.mynrma.com.au/peugeot_407_st_hdi.asp I thought that your wife earned enough to buy her own car??? Why would you have to buy her a car? Regards Donal -- |
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"DSK" wrote in message .. . Scotty wrote: I like my 18 speed Roadranger. I must have a narrow power band, huh? According to BB's rules of engineering, that power band would be about as wide as an RC hair. Radio Controlled hair? Coool! SBV |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... I still can't even figure out why you married a woman. I don't understand much of anything. And you never will...... |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
"Donal" wrote in message ... OzOne wrote in message ... Speaking of cars...Did I mention that I bought one of these for my wife a few months back? http://www.mynrma.com.au/peugeot_407_st_hdi.asp I thought that your wife earned enough to buy her own car??? Why would you have to buy her a car? She gave him the money and sent him to pick it up. Makes him feel a little less useless that way. Scotty |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
OzOne wrote in message ... ..the door locking buttons were black on one side and chrome on the other... Holy Crap! ! ! And you drove it like that? ? SBV |
Best Minivan Ever for Sailors!
OzOne wrote in message ... She gave him the money and sent him to pick it up. Makes him feel a little less useless that way. Scotty Hey, now that would be good....I could have spent another winter skiing in France ;-) While she stays home, right? I'm sure she would have appreciated that much much more than a new car. Scotty |
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