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Thom Stewart wrote:
Group; Here is the boat my crew member picked up. I'll try to crew for him. Doug,or whoever, Talk to me about setting Standing Rigging without back stay adjuster, Need to know on this Ranger. Thanks, Ol Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Thom- Definitely go sailing on this boat! It's a Ranger 20, often called the 'Kent Ranger' to seperate them from the Cal/Ranger series. Very original designs and it works well. These boats are deceptively fast, we had one dogging us in the Lightning in many races. About setting up the standing rigging... I don't know the specific tuning, but you will definitely want to check out the mast support post inside & the step... thoroughly. A bit of 'deferred maintenance' by some previous owner could produce an embarassing & costly crashy-thumpy noise. To set the mast up (just like any fractional rig) leave the backstay and lower shrouds very loose at first, and the upper shrouds somewhat loose. Stand the mast up and set the rake by adjusting the forestay so it looks like the mast is only slightly tilted back. Then set up the backstay so that it's snug but not tight. Now hook a tape measure to the main halyard and measure to the chainplates on the transom (or some other easily identifiable, permanent landmark) and note that in the log as the rake measurement. Now take the tape measure and check to each upper shroud chainplate. Should be the same so that the mast is vertical to the boat. The lowers should still be loose. When the mast is vertical to the boat (and you'd be amazed how many boats don't sit level... a plum bob is worse than useless for tuning), and the rake is where you want it, pull tension evenly on the upper shrouds. This will bend the mast! Sight up the sail track to make sure that the mast is still perfectly straight side-to-side, the curve should be all fore & aft... then tighten the upper shrouds to about 150# tension or you get 3 ~ 4" of bend, whichever comes first. Now tighten the lower shrouds evenly, continuing to sight up the sail track to make sure it stays straight athwartship. This will pull the bend out of the mast. If your sails are relatively full & you sail in light wind much of the time, pull the mast to almost straight. If your sails are fairly new and/or you sail in good wind, leave an inch or two of curve. The backstay should now be tightened until it just barely increases the curve in the mast, sighting up the sail track some more. I'd recommend putting on a new adjustable backstay. If the boat is trailered regularly (and these boats trailer fairly easily) then you can put on 5mm Spectra line spliced at each end with a carabiner to hooking it to a 3:1 tackle, unrigs easily & quickly and give a great 'first reef' sail control. Your crew made a good pick on this one! Hope you both have some good times sailing. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Thanks Doug,
That was "Exactly" the information I was looking for. Will print it out and hand a copy to Don. Thanks again Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Doug,
Don, my crewman, is a Dutchman and I mean "Mister Clean" We were, in every sense, the odd couple. He has two other people with him cleaning the boat. I handed the copy of your post and he was tickled pink, By the way; it does have an adjustable back stay, A turnbuckle. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Don, my crewman, is a Dutchman and I mean "Mister Clean" We were, in every sense, the odd couple. He has two other people with him cleaning the boat. I handed the copy of your post and he was tickled pink, Glad to be of help. By the way; it does have an adjustable back stay, A turnbuckle. Hmm, that's good but not really any more adjustable than any other piece of standing rigging with a turnbuckle. A backstay that is easily adjustable, like say for example the way the boom vang is, makes a great sail control. If OTOH you tend to adjust your boom vang only once or twice a season, then you probably don't want any more adjustment on the backstay. It's a matter of personal prefereence. A fractional sloop like this can benefit greatly from 'working' the backstay... in fact it's the second most important sail control in gusty weather. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Doug,
I agree with you about the backstay adjuster, "Pneuma" has a split "V" back stay an I fitted a Johnson Adjuster. A single pull for upwind and a simple release adjustment for off the wind. That was MY boat. I printed your reply. The rest is up to Don. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Doug,
All my boats have been Mast Head Rigs. I carried about a 3" sag in my Fore stay for Back stay adjustment on Pneuma, I've noted 0 sag in the fractional rig. Is this normal? Is all the Main shaping done with to top of the mast and cunningham ONLY? http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Anyone;
Does anyone know the Phrf rating on the Kent Ranger 20? With and wihout "Flying Sails" http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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![]() "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... | Doug, | | I agree with you about the backstay adjuster, "Pneuma" has a split "V" | back stay an I fitted a Johnson Adjuster. A single pull for upwind and a | simple release adjustment for off the wind. That was MY boat. I printed | your reply. The rest is up to Don. Had had had? Why don't you post to alt.retired.asa? You have nothing to offer but memories. Go away you has-been old screwball. We need people who sail, not people who used to sail. Paladin *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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![]() "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Anyone; Does anyone know the Phrf rating on the Kent Ranger 20? With and wihout "Flying Sails" One source shows Ranger 22s and 23s to be in the range between 231 and 240. I'd suspect the 20 to be similar or slightly higher. But that's just a guess--I couldn't find any PHRF ratings for the Ranger 20, Kent or otherwise. Max |
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