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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Do you really think a 757 makes a 16 foot hole?

The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml

Seems about right.


Glory!

New 911 Video released
 

The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml


Seems about right.


Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or
tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect.


RB
35s5
NY

New 911 Video released
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml


Seems about right.


Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or
tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect.


RB
35s5
NY

The wings and tail sheer off pretty easily. In fact, wings falling off
planes is a pretty common mid-air mishap. P-3 Orions had that problem. Wings
are like a big lever. The fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole
structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater than
its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off.

New 911 Video released
 

fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole
structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater
than
its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off.


All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated
on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't
sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy.

RB
35s5
NY

New 911 Video released
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole
structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater
than
its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off.


All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated
on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't
sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy.


If they disintegrated then there would be nothing left. Isn't that the
meaning of disintegration?

Airplanes have lots of aluminum, magnesium and other metals that burn. Solid
fuel rocket motors are made of powdered aluminum. Magnesium is used in
flares. Look at other airplane crashes. There are several where there's
nothing left of the plane. Forest fires melt aluminum structures and
objects.

An airplane crash is not a car crash.

The Pentagon has thick walls. The jet penetrated at least 8 of them. What
else could have the momentum (which includes mass) to penetrate that deep?

Amen!

New 911 Video released
 

Bob,

Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence of
engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't right.
The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
fuselage head on is pretty stout, the whole
structure would be in compression. If an airliner flew 150 mph greater
than
its top speed, the wings and tail would sheer off.


All fine, except that the official report says the wings disintegrated
on impact. No sections wings or tail section were found. So they didn't
sheer off, yet there's no impact area for them. Oopsy.


If they disintegrated then there would be nothing left. Isn't that the
meaning of disintegration?

Airplanes have lots of aluminum, magnesium and other metals that burn.
Solid fuel rocket motors are made of powdered aluminum. Magnesium is used
in flares. Look at other airplane crashes. There are several where there's
nothing left of the plane. Forest fires melt aluminum structures and
objects.

An airplane crash is not a car crash.

The Pentagon has thick walls. The jet penetrated at least 8 of them. What
else could have the momentum (which includes mass) to penetrate that deep?

Amen!

New 911 Video released
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Bob,

Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence
of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't
right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc.

I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked?

So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it a
UFO?

New 911 Video released
 

It was a Mexican gardner. We need to get Bush and Cheney down to the border.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major evidence
of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found. Something isn't
right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum, magnesium, etc.

I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked?

So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it
a UFO?

New 911 Video released
 

I did see a rake in the photos. You're on to something!


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
It was a Mexican gardner. We need to get Bush and Cheney down to the
border.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Bob,

Just about every plane crash that has been recorded leaves major
evidence of engines. These engines are huge, but none were found.
Something isn't right. The internals of the engines are not aluminum,
magnesium, etc.

I have seen the engine remains in photographs. Are the photographs faked?

So then, the thing that hit the Pentagon obviously had no engines. Was it
a UFO?

New 911 Video released
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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The fuselage is only 12.5 feet in diameter.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...s/q0110c.shtml


Seems about right.


Yeah, so long as it has a perfect angle of penetration and no wings or
tail section and doesn't explode....16 feet is perfect.

The aircraft struck the ground immediately before hitting the Pentagon. It
is speculated that the impact with the ground probably broke the wing spars
and the wings folded back along the fuselage as the plane entered the
building. The entrance hole was actually between the first and second
floors, lending credence to the idea that the plane actually bounced
slightly after striking the ground.

Don't forget, these were not professional pilots, but all things considered
they did a credible job of accomplishing their objectives, the flight over
PA notwithstanding.

Max