In article , OzOne wrote:

On Wed, 10 May 2006 04:05:02 +0100, Peter Wiley
scribbled thusly:

Dunno. My personal experience with Subarus has been excellent, tho.
Never had any probs with any of the 4 I've owned, and they do hold
resale value well here in Oz. I have nothing bad to say about Toyotas &
Hondas either but can't speak from personal experience.

Note that I have no interest in the rev-head toys Bob likes. I like the
conservative, slightly overweight, very solid and well engineered
sedans. It's nice to have a car whose image is the opposite of the
driver's :-)

PDW

Subarus are known to have a small but expensive problem with cylinder
head gaskets leaking coolant, rapid wear in the valvetrain, and
gearboxes/clutches that may not be as hardy as they might be.

The turbo ones, I can well believe it. I'd never buy a used turbo
Subie. The clutch on my Liberty was replaced at 160K, the CV joints at
180K. That's it, and while I bought it used, it has the full logbook
dealer service records.

Still, they are a great car and worth the risk afa I'm concerned.

As I said, my personal experience with them is good. In fact I was
considering buying another one for my daughter.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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The clutch on my Liberty was replaced at 160K, the CV joints at
180K. That's it, and while I bought it used, it has the full logbook
dealer service records.

That's pretty good for a Jeep Liberty, which overall has had a rather dismal
reliability rating. But each car is an individual, and some folks get
lucky. I'd say you were fortunate. A neighbor finally sold his after only
15K miles and 2 years, during much of which the vehicle was in the shop
awaiting parts.

As I said, my personal experience with them is good. In fact I was
considering buying another one for my daughter.

Road & Track's long-term tests of Subarus has pointed to a number of service
issues on most of the models. And Consumer Reports also noted some issues
as well. But overall they are stout, relatively reliable vehicles. That
the company has doggedly retained it boxer engines is a bit surprising,
considering the problems that are inherent with boxers, but I suspect their
loyal clientele might revolt if they began putting inline 4s and V6s in
them.

Max

In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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The clutch on my Liberty was replaced at 160K, the CV joints at
180K. That's it, and while I bought it used, it has the full logbook
dealer service records.

That's pretty good for a Jeep Liberty, which overall has had a rather dismal
reliability rating.

Subaru Liberty. Sold in the USA as a Legacy IIRC. Wouldn't have a Jeep
except as a gift. Useless excuse for a 4WD compared to a Toyota,
Nissan, Mitsubishi or almost anything except maybe a Lada.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

The clutch on my Liberty was replaced at 160K, the CV joints at
180K. That's it, and while I bought it used, it has the full logbook
dealer service records.

That's pretty good for a Jeep Liberty, which overall has had a rather
dismal
reliability rating.

Subaru Liberty. Sold in the USA as a Legacy IIRC. Wouldn't have a Jeep
except as a gift. Useless excuse for a 4WD compared to a Toyota,
Nissan, Mitsubishi or almost anything except maybe a Lada.

I stand corrected. Never heard the term "Liberty" applied to a Subaru, but
you've explained that.

I agree--the last Jeep I owned was a 1964 CJ-5 with no top. It was perfect
for the fire roads in the Colorado Rockies where I lived in the mid-1970s.

Max