Do I detect just a note of jealousy, Bubbles? Huh?


Maxi....Puhlease! It's a 3 series. I'm driving a Suburu STI and
Forester XT wagon...both of which would leave that 3 series in the dust
in any conditons. I like the 5 series though. The puny 3 series is
little more than an econobox. Even my Tribeca is cooler with its 250HP,
traction control and 18" wheels and it even has manual mode. Off the
line she's a tank (0-60 in 8.5), but at speed she's faster than the
Lexus 330 and I've had her up to 130 MPH.
I suppose you wanted a car as slow as your boat. Job well done!

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Do I detect just a note of jealousy, Bubbles? Huh?


Maxi....Puhlease! It's a 3 series. I'm driving a Suburu STI and
Forester XT wagon...both of which would leave that 3 series in the dust
in any conditons.

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Japanese toys vs. fine Teutonic engineering.
Right. A cheap Japanese 600cc motorcycle will outperform that STI in all
respects, so your point is ludicrous.

I like the 5 series though. The puny 3 series is
little more than an econobox.

First--the new Chris Bangle-designed 5 is as ugly as your Tribeca. Well,
okay, perhaps not quite that ugly. Second, you see almost no 5, 6, or 7
series cars on the race track, but you see 3s by the dozens. By the way, an
M3 left a WRX STI so far in its dust at Laguna Seca a few weeks ago as to
make the officials wonder if the STI was in the wrong class.

Even my Tribeca is cooler with its 250HP,
traction control and 18" wheels and it even has manual mode.

LOL. Put my Bimmer next to that Tribeca (as unthinkable as that would be
for a BMW owner) and see how many folks compliment each car respectively.
Of course the derisive comments about the ugly truck won't count as
"compliments."

Off the
line she's a tank (0-60 in 8.5), but at speed she's faster than the
Lexus 330 and I've had her up to 130 MPH.
I suppose you wanted a car as slow as your boat. Job well done!

A Lexus ES330 is just a Camry in disguise, and that's no performance
machine. Even your Tribeca would outhandle that softly-sprung, rolly
luxo-box.

As for speed, it's rather pointless to buy a car that can double most posted
speed limits, despite your need to compensate for the manliness nature
failed to provide. I'm content to have a quick auto with superb handling,
outstanding quality, cutting-edge engineering, and resale value that your
Subarus could only dream about.

Max

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Japanese toys vs. fine Teutonic engineering.

Right. A cheap Japanese 600cc motorcycle will outperform that STI in
all
respects, so your point is ludicrous.


BMW makes some fine cars, but the cheap 3 series is little more than a
teenager's toy, except for the M3. The STI is simply better than
everything, far faster, far better handling in ALL conditions. It's
essentially an off the rack rally car. Oh, and the STI is very much
able to hold it's own with an M3 in every respect but build. The M3 is
awesome. You don't own one.

LOL. Put my Bimmer next to that Tribeca (as unthinkable as that
would be
for a BMW owner) and see how many folks compliment each car
respectively.

This is NY. BMW is about as common as the Ford Focus. No one looks them
and they've become little more than ghetto mobiles. Then again only
really poor folks drive low end 3 series anyway...about as pathetic as
the Audi A4 in fact.


I'm content to have a quick auto with superb handling,
outstanding quality, cutting-edge engineering,


Do let us know when you get such a car.

and resale value that your

Better check Edmunds. Both the Outback and STI have better resale than
your 3 series. Only the M3 has a good resale value. BMW doesn't even
make the top 10. You also need need to run TCO (Total cost of
ownership) where Subaru FAR outstrips the BMW and is only bested by
Toyota and Honda.
Yep, you sure know your cars!

A Lexus ES330 is just a Camry

Dude, are you on some kind of medication? Anyone who knows anything
would understand that it's not the ES330 I was talking about. You do
know that Lexus also makes a crossover, right? You do know that it has
a totally different suspension, right? And that it's one of the best
rated in it's class, right? Hmmmm? Guess not. Read some more car &
drivers and MT and get back to us!

Good lord, Maxi....my shovel has your face imprinted on it!.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Japanese toys vs. fine Teutonic engineering.

Right. A cheap Japanese 600cc motorcycle will outperform that STI in
all
respects, so your point is ludicrous.


BMW makes some fine cars, but the cheap 3 series is little more than a
teenager's toy, except for the M3. The STI is simply better than
everything, far faster, far better handling in ALL conditions. It's
essentially an off the rack rally car. Oh, and the STI is very much
able to hold it's own with an M3 in every respect but build. The M3 is
awesome. You don't own one.

And it's damned unlikely I ever will. Why would I want the quintessential
poor-man's pocket rocket when I can own a real car, like a BMW?


LOL. Put my Bimmer next to that Tribeca (as unthinkable as that
would be
for a BMW owner) and see how many folks compliment each car
respectively.


This is NY. BMW is about as common as the Ford Focus. No one looks them
and they've become little more than ghetto mobiles. Then again only
really poor folks drive low end 3 series anyway...about as pathetic as
the Audi A4 in fact.

Gee, that must put the STI in the economic basement of ownership. Sorry to
hear that.



I'm content to have a quick auto with superb handling,
outstanding quality, cutting-edge engineering,


Do let us know when you get such a car.

I already have it. You, OTOH, have a hot little sedan that won't hold its
value after the next, more attractive and quicker Japanese pocket rocket
surfaces.


and resale value that your

Better check Edmunds. Both the Outback and STI have better resale than
your 3 series. Only the M3 has a good resale value. BMW doesn't even
make the top 10. You also need need to run TCO (Total cost of
ownership) where Subaru FAR outstrips the BMW and is only bested by
Toyota and Honda.
Yep, you sure know your cars!

Yep, I do. And I don't believe a word of your previous paragraph.
J.D.Powers, the acknowledged authority on owner surveys, puts the BMW way
above any Subaru in value retention.

A Lexus ES330 is just a Camry

Dude, are you on some kind of medication? Anyone who knows anything
would understand that it's not the ES330 I was talking about.

You might have been more specific. You simply said "a 330." An RX or an ES
would have been helpful.

You do
know that Lexus also makes a crossover, right?

"Crossover" is a media hype term. The RX330 is a car-based SUV, just like
my Highlander. In fact it's the same vehicle with different sheet metal and
some expensive interior goodies.

You do know that it has
a totally different suspension, right? And that it's one of the best
rated in it's class, right? Hmmmm? Guess not. Read some more car &
drivers and MT and get back to us!

I know that the RX330 and my Toyota Highlander, along with the Honda Pilot
leave your Tribeca in the dust in every survey and test so far published.

Sorry, Bubbles, but putting perfume on a pig doesn't make it something else.
G

Max

Gee, that must put the STI in the economic basement of ownership.
Sorry to
hear that.


STI costs 35K all said and done. It does EVERYTHING better than your 3
series, from handling in ALL conditions, to safety, to
speed...EVERYTHING. Oh, and it's resale IS BETTER.


Japanese pocket rocket
surfaces.


You might want to do a bit more research, Maxi. Or better still, drive
a few new cars. A car like the STI has supercar performance. 0-60 in
4.7 seconds and the handling combined with AWD than leaves most other
sports cars in the dust. Oh, and your beloved Consumer Reports seems to
think the Subaru is also more reliable, rated along side of Toyota for
2005!

An RX or an ES
would have been helpful.

Yep, we can all understand that is a comparison with the Triebca, you
thought I mean ES!!! Coming up next for Maxi....Pictures!


I know that the RX330 and my Toyota Highlander, along with the Honda Pilot
leave your Tribeca in the dust in every survey and test so far
published.

Bad news, Maxi....The tribeca outhandles the Highlander. In fact so
does the Pilot. It's one of the worst handling crossovers out there. It
also trails the Tribeca in every safety related area from stopping
distance to crash tests. Only the MDX comes close, but lacks the
superior Subaru AWD system. Did you even know that the highlander loses
ABS when traction control kicks in? So does the Pilot and MDX, but the
new MDX will cure this. You really studdied hard for that Highlander!
It was the first car we, and everyone we know, looked at....and passed
on. Along with the BMW X5 (the only SUV that Car & Driver felt handled
a bit better than the Tribeca at the expense of ride quality), the
Highlander is the most dated ride around.

RB
35s5
NY

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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putting perfume on a pig doesn't make it something else.

Don't knock it, till you've tried it.

Scotty

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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As for speed, it's rather pointless to buy a car that can
double most posted
speed limits, despite your need to compensate for the
manliness nature
failed to provide.

Have you seen the V W commercials where people in their cars
are shouting stuff through bull horns? Saw it last night,
thought of Bob.

SBV

Have you seen the V W commercials where people in their cars
are shouting stuff through bull horns? Saw it last night,
thought of Bob.


Saw a Jeep ad with a shot of the Grand Canyon and I though of Scotty's
wife with her legs open. Of course the Grand Canyon has fewer
"wrinkles."


RB
35s5
NY

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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As for speed, it's rather pointless to buy a car that can
double most posted
speed limits, despite your need to compensate for the
manliness nature
failed to provide.

Have you seen the V W commercials where people in their cars
are shouting stuff through bull horns? Saw it last night,
thought of Bob.

Of course he'd have the best, most advanced bull horn made.

Max