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katy May 16th 06 03:38 AM

Might As Well Be A Gun Thread....
 
Capt. JG wrote:
I hate potatos, that's why I eat them.

You eat everything you hate?

Maxprop May 16th 06 04:57 AM

Sailing and Cars
 

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 May 2006 23:01:09 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:



"Vito" wrote in message
...


Y'all must be very young. By the 1960s Britian had
adopted (BSS?) bolts using
US wrench sizes but with slightly different thread shapes.
However, a few
Whitworth sizes were still found on accessories like
carburettors, dampners and
dynamos. Six-point US box wrenches would fit all but a
couple of them OK.


Thank you. Did you read that, BB?

Max


Yeah, I read it. It's bull****. I won't deny that many unskilled hacks
tried to
use SAE wrenches to work on bikes with whitworth fasteners. Then again,
I've
seen ignorant hacks work on Toyotas with SAE wrenches and sockets, too.

You are just making yourself look dumber and dumber. There has to be a
bottom
somewhere, but where?


Listen to yourself, BB. You've done nothing but chest-thump, rant, rave,
and spout meaningless drivel, post after post. And you've attacked me, Joe,
Scotty, and others, and even their wives with some really vulgar, juvenile
rhetoric. And you say I'm making myself look dumber???

Perceptiveness isn't you long suit, is it?

Max



Maxprop May 16th 06 04:59 AM

Sailing and Cars
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Max, you do realize that you're chatting with at least two sockpuppets who
are the same person right?


No.

Max



Maxprop May 16th 06 05:00 AM

Sailing and Cars
 

"Binary Bill" wrote in message
oups.com...

Maxprop wrote:

Partner: Pat Simmons - Doobie Brothers - Go ask him. You can also ask
Dick
Smothers, who was not only a very good customer, but often hung around
the
shop
trying to help the mechanics.


When I call up your good buddies, Pat Simmons and Dickie Smothers, what
name
should I ask about? Certainly not that phoney one you've been posting at
the bottom. Do they know you as Barnacle Bill the Blowhard, too?



Wait, on second thought, don't mention my name to Dickie Smothers. He's
probably still mad at me. In '65 I talked him into being my financial
partner in a venture that didn't quite pan out. We had the exclusive
distribution rights for Whitworth Duct Tape imported into the USA.
never caught on for some reason.


LOL. Of course not--it took BSW scissors to cut it.

Max



Peter Wiley May 16th 06 05:48 AM

Sailing and Cars
 
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Binary Bill" wrote in message
oups.com...

Maxprop wrote:

Partner: Pat Simmons - Doobie Brothers - Go ask him. You can also ask
Dick
Smothers, who was not only a very good customer, but often hung around
the
shop
trying to help the mechanics.

When I call up your good buddies, Pat Simmons and Dickie Smothers, what
name
should I ask about? Certainly not that phoney one you've been posting at
the bottom. Do they know you as Barnacle Bill the Blowhard, too?



Wait, on second thought, don't mention my name to Dickie Smothers. He's
probably still mad at me. In '65 I talked him into being my financial
partner in a venture that didn't quite pan out. We had the exclusive
distribution rights for Whitworth Duct Tape imported into the USA.
never caught on for some reason.


LOL. Of course not--it took BSW scissors to cut it.


That's be the new-fangled electric model, powered by Lucas 'Prince of
Darkness' generators.

PDW

Peter Wiley May 16th 06 05:54 AM

Sailing and Cars
 
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 May 2006 23:01:09 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:



"Vito" wrote in message
...

Y'all must be very young. By the 1960s Britian had
adopted (BSS?) bolts using
US wrench sizes but with slightly different thread shapes.
However, a few
Whitworth sizes were still found on accessories like
carburettors, dampners and
dynamos. Six-point US box wrenches would fit all but a
couple of them OK.

Thank you. Did you read that, BB?

Max


Yeah, I read it. It's bull****. I won't deny that many unskilled hacks
tried to
use SAE wrenches to work on bikes with whitworth fasteners. Then again,
I've
seen ignorant hacks work on Toyotas with SAE wrenches and sockets, too.

You are just making yourself look dumber and dumber. There has to be a
bottom
somewhere, but where?


Listen to yourself, BB. You've done nothing but chest-thump, rant, rave,
and spout meaningless drivel, post after post. And you've attacked me, Joe,
Scotty, and others, and even their wives with some really vulgar, juvenile
rhetoric. And you say I'm making myself look dumber???

Perceptiveness isn't you long suit, is it?


About the same level of knowledge as Bobsprit, too.....

PDW

[email protected] May 16th 06 02:24 PM

Sailing and Cars
 
Heavy lead acid battery technology is obsolete.

Fast charging lithium batteries will take over. Recycling of tires is
now standard, as will become recycling of old batteries, once the plant
gets rolling that can do it economically. Old tires are used to make
rubber products like cow beds, truck liners and even ashphalt.

Oil can now be cooked up from agri waste, but there is plenty for quite
a while. It is expensive only thanks to rapacious monopolistic
marketing and lobbying and outright spoofy lies to protect the big oil
guys.

A car with electric wheelmotors and batteries can easily outperform
pure i.c. engined cars, especially if short trips and high
accelleration is the aim, because the i.c. engine carries all the
weight of sustainable output with much inefficient complexity, whilst
electric motors can provide more torque at lower weight and regenerate
charge with the braking action. Batteries will become cheaper than
gasoline before gasoline prices will decline.

Long range is a little different, but range enough can be achieved for
town use, especially if local smog is considered, and pure energy
efficiency is costed in. Refining oil to gas is only 50% efficient, and
i.c. engines are only 25% efficient at the user end. 12% overall
efficiency is deplorable, especially considering the smog. The oil
would better be used for lightweight, recycleable structural uses.

Legally, do those in huge cars have some inherent right to scare off
lightweight personal vehicles, by intimating that it's better to run
over little guys on the road with huge tanks? If I choose to drive a
raintight one seater, does a tank driver have the right to ignore me on
the road, especially if his brakes are just not up to stopping him more
quickly than he can accellerate?

Is there a law that says petro fuel is the only one allowed on publicly
paid roads?

If the gov legislated some efficiency requirement in the interest of
our environment should that carry more authority than some peniphilic
rich ******* in a personal hummer? Do you really think that driving a
semi around town should be acceptable social behavoir, for personal
safety or prestige reasons? Perhaps for a hated politician or oil
magnate?

Pure alcohol is a very good fuel, invisible fire flames or no. I wonder
if reverse osmosis or some other process will turn out to be more
efficient than distillation in the production of high grade alcohol.
Solar power could increase the efficiency of the distillation process,
since alky brew needs be heated only to 85 celcius to accomplish
distillation, and the water can be re-used for fermentation. Cellulosic
alcohol can now be made very cheaply.

All oil came from life forms. All fuel depends on solar power
transformed one way or another. Technology is showing us the way to
localise and accellerate the natural process. Considering the
efficiencies of making oil and making alcohol, we can do better than
nature.

We can certainly do better than the profit wringing oil monopolists
would have us believe. The competition of alky and electric or hybrid
plus home charge vehicles using the combination of alcohol and fine
tuned i.c. battery chargers, lightweight lithium batteries and small
powerful lightweight wheel motors is our best weapon against the oil
monster, and it for that reason alone, not any actual or contrived
temporary or long term oil or gasoline shortage, that I feel it must be
supported. Government will never protect us against the oil guys,
since it is they who own the government, and it is they who will oppose
nuclear generation for the same reason, by whatever emotive arguements
are convenient, including promoting fear of "The Bomb", or terrorist
states, or waste recycling, or burying fusion advances.

Only innovative enterpreneures can save us from the oil monopolists,
who will naturally oppose any market share penetration by any means
contrivable, wether commercial propoganda, undermining subterfuge,
political means, or even environmental arguements, as twisted as that
logic may become. Lip service aside, oil producers have no interest
whatever in promoting fuel efficiency, or petro derived packaging
efficiency, for that matter. For them, only our increase in
consumption is paramount. Their arguements can all be discounted except
those that do not need promotion by advocates, as the truth will out
itself in the end. Probably, some farmer will cook sileage and turkey
guts and run his tractor on it and patent the process and get rich in
his own way. I think it's actually been done, except for the getting
"RICH!!" part.

Can we not do better than requiring everyone to commute long distance,
or go faster, or for both parental partners to work all day and hire
sitters, an impossible economic requirement?

Our societal model needs revamping. People are surely more important
than their automobiles, and our society is failing at providing mass
transit and local work opportunities.

Terry K


Joe May 16th 06 02:57 PM

Sailing and Cars
 
Robert is BB and Mys terry Max. I thought everone knows that.

Sheeze.

Joe


Vito May 16th 06 03:12 PM

Sailing and Cars
 
"Mys Terry" wrote
Fitting a fastener "okay" is not how good mechanics do things.


Can't speak for Scotty but I wrenched in Brit car dealerships for over five
years and was "good" enough that customers followed me from shop to shop. A
"set" of wrenches of a given type (US, Metric) includes literally 100s of
individual wrenches and sockets costing the equivalent of thousands of todays
dollars. Few, if any, pro mechanics had complete BS wrench sets, even those of
us specializing on Brit cars and bikes. We knew which bolts needed BS
(Whitworth) wrenches and only bought those wrenches.



Capt. JG May 16th 06 03:19 PM

Might As Well Be A Gun Thread....
 
It has to be dead first. Do you eat everything you love or are ambivalent
about?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
I hate potatos, that's why I eat them.

You eat everything you hate?





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