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http://www.hasselblad.se/

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I seriously doubt you even understand what that camera is used for.



RB
35s5
NY

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Now you're talking Bob.

Bout time someone started talking quality in modern cameras.
Not second quality fluff. That Hasselblad is sweet, I might order one
tonight.

I bet Bobspit could learn allot about cameras by looking at the
application gallery on the web-site.

Joe

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I seriously doubt you even understand what that camera is used for.

I most certainly do. I seriously doubt you even have an inkling of where
that type of camera has been used. How many focal plane arrays have you
designed? hmmmm?

Go back to your consumer world Wal Mart cameras and leave the precision
stuff to those of us who really use it. Real men use real cameras.

Here's your level of photography:

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/tpphotog/index.html

Aahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!

Amen!

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Now you're talking Bob.

Bout time someone started talking quality in modern cameras.
Not second quality fluff. That Hasselblad is sweet, I might order one
tonight.

I bet Bobspit could learn allot about cameras by looking at the
application gallery on the web-site.

Joe


Right you are Joe. That is one fine camera, way beyond the means of RB in
both expense and functionality. I think you should get one and you could
make it a business expense.

In a world of compromise, some men dont - Hasselblad!

I bet Oz owns a Hasselblad!

Glory!

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Used, without lens costs more than Robbie's whole system:

http://cgi.ebay.com/GORGEOUS-HASSELB...cmd ZViewItem


Aaahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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As I said, you have no idea where these cameras are used or for what.
They are not found in studios. In fact I know of two in use right now
by the Museum of Natural History, but not in any capacity you can
fathom.
Still awaiting your comments. So far you've posted nothing but hot air.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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As I said, you have no idea where these cameras are used or for what.
They are not found in studios. In fact I know of two in use right now
by the Museum of Natural History, but not in any capacity you can
fathom.
Still awaiting your comments. So far you've posted nothing but hot air.


RB
35s5
NY


Almost every picture taken in space was taken by a Hasselblad. They've been
on every shuttle flight, at least 5 cameras each!.

The first footprint on the moon - photographed by Hasselblad!

Hasselblad is also big into aerial photography.

They're used in military and aerospace regularly. In fact, I picked up a
used Hasselblad aerial recon camera and housing down on Canal St in NYC. I
bought it by the pound and resold it for much, much more!!!

aaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!

Hasselblad - a real camera!

Not junk!!

I bet Joe is buying one right now!

I hope he gets that 22 megapixel model and all the lenses!

Glory!

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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As I said, you have no idea where these cameras are used or for what.
They are not found in studios. In fact I know of two in use right now
by the Museum of Natural History, but not in any capacity you can
fathom.
Still awaiting your comments. So far you've posted nothing but hot air.


RB
35s5
NY


Almost every picture taken in space was taken by a Hasselblad. They've
been on every shuttle flight, at least 5 cameras each!.

They've been on every NASA spaceflight since the first orbital Mercury
missions. Hasselblad was the only company interested in adapting their
bodies and lenses to NASA's needs at the time. After seeing how much "free
publicity" Hasselblad got, every camera company showed interest. But NASA
had what they wanted and stuck with the 'Blads.

Max

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Nikon is now NASA's #1 flight camera.

http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/news...f5eva_e_00.htm

Poor Bob C. is stomped again. Then again you have to wonder what Bob
might use a 22MP or higher for? Does he know that a 4MP D2Hs makes the
same quality 8X10 prints and has even better control over dynamic
range?

Bye, bye, Bobby!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Nikon is now NASA's #1 flight camera.

http://www.nikon.co.jp/main/eng/news...f5eva_e_00.htm

Poor Bob C. is stomped again. Then again you have to wonder what Bob
might use a 22MP or higher for? Does he know that a 4MP D2Hs makes the
same quality 8X10 prints and has even better control over dynamic
range?

Bye, bye, Bobby!

Who cares about 8x10 prints? What about running the pixels into a DSP for
analysis. What kinds of analysis? Like looking for slight ground collapses
due to tunnel, a surface wake in mm from a submarine running hundreds of
meters below the surface, changes in water reflectance due to oil films,
subtle changes in wave structure due to winds, old river beds under the
sand, buried objects in the sand, land mines, etc.

Go play with your toy camera and your 8 x 10's. Science has much better and
more sophisticated uses for photography. Since you know so much about
cameras, how many lines of C code does it take to write a recursive low pass
filter using a bilinear transformation to discern the chromolesence and
luminesence characteristics of a black and white 16 MP digital photograph?
Tell us Robbie! Tell us!!!!

Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scorched like a flounder in lava!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen!

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Bob Crantz wrote:
x 10's. Science has much better and
more sophisticated uses for photography. Since you know so much about
cameras, how many lines of C code does it take to write a recursive low pass
filter using a bilinear transformation to discern the chromolesence and
luminesence characteristics of a black and white 16 MP digital photograph?
Tell us Robbie! Tell us!!!!

What the hell is "Chromolesence", and what's it got to do with black and
white images?

Cheers
Marty

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Talk about a beating! Bobsprit has been made into pulp.

Oh the humanity!

Lloyd

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Nikon is now NASA's #1 flight camera.

And Huffy is the OFFICIAL bike of the US Olympic Cycling Team!

Bwaahahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

What the hell is "Chromolesence", and what's it got to do with black and
white images?

It's the humologuous transformation of a D1 type system conformal to a one
to one mapping of the gray scale. The drawback of this method is dynamic
range reduction but it does give remarkable contrast enhancement. It's very
much like the way the eye works. The eye has a timewise great long term
dynamic range and short term great sensitivity. The eye takes time to adjust
to nominal light intensity and then can discern fine levels of light
intensity. In the eye it's driven by chemical concentrations, in humologuous
gray scale transformations it's mathematical. The running average window is
much longer which establishes the baseline interjection recursive elements.
From this baseline, non logarithmic methods can be used to determine the
intensity granularity of the digitized black and white image. Linear
analysis gives much greater sensitivity than logrithmic analysis, plus phase
information is not lost. The reason it's called "chromolescence" is that the
original work was done for color images, which is a 7 vector space and then
reduced to black and white images which are a 4 vector space. Just search
Rabiner, Gold, Oppenhiem, Schafer and Tribolet.

Glory!

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And Huffy is the OFFICIAL bike of the US Olympic Cycling Team!


Bad new, Bob. Huffy (under a different name of course) makes premium
high end bike frames and developed the breaking systems along with
Mafak some years back also found on today's racers.
Seems like you know about as much about bikes as you do cameras! Funny
that you own neither.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And for scientific applications in the field, the #1 lens series are
the Nikon Micro line.

Nope. Their coatings outgas.

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Bob Crantz wrote:
The reason it's called "chromolescence" is that the
original work was done for color images, which is a 7 vector space and then
reduced to black and white images which are a 4 vector space. Just search
Rabiner, Gold, Oppenhiem, Schafer and Tribolet.

Thanks Bob, all is clear now.

Hallelujah, in colour.

Marty

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And Huffy is the OFFICIAL bike of the US Olympic Cycling Team!


Bad new, Bob. Huffy (under a different name of course) makes premium
high end bike frames and developed the breaking systems along with
Mafak some years back also found on today's racers.
Seems like you know about as much about bikes as you do cameras! Funny
that you own neither.


Do you mean Mavic breaking systems?

http://penncycle.com/itemdetails.cfm?ID=7114


Or Mafac?

Mafac are the old dual pivot side pull brakes:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/mafac.html


Here's a high end bike from Trek, notice the brakes:

http://www2.trekbikes.com/bikes/bike...id=1470000&f=1


It's Dura Ace toad-boy!

Premium high end bike frames! Tell me, what are they made of? What makes
them premium?

You don't even know the difference between Tange and Columbus!

aaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!!!

Hooked by a camera and run over by a bike!!!

Glory!

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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http://www.hasselblad.se/

How does the resolution, grey scale, et al compare to 4x5 and 8x10 film?

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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http://www.hasselblad.se/

How does the resolution, grey scale, et al compare to 4x5 and 8x10 film?


It's a function of lens size and film quality. The camera body actually has
very little to do with anything (notice Robbie's emphasis on camera body).
In higher speed films the morphology of the shuttering mechanism comes into
play. If it is light tight and mechanically stable a shoe box will take
great pictures.

Amen!

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Capt. Rob wrote:

Poor Bob C. is stomped again. Then again you have to wonder what Bob
might use a 22MP or higher for? Does he know that a 4MP D2Hs makes the
same quality 8X10 prints and has even better control over dynamic
range?

Yeah, NASA take pics in space so they can print out a few 10x8s for their
grannies. What a prune!


Bye, bye, Bobby!

Bye, bye!


--
Capt Scumbalino

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Yeah, NASA take pics in space so they can print out a few 10x8s for
their
grannies. What a prune!

The majority of study prints by Nasa are full frame 8X10 negative
transfers which are then scanned.

RB
35s5
NY

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It's a function of lens size and film quality. The camera body actually
has
very little to do with anything (notice Robbie's emphasis on camera
body).


Notice how poor Bob is busted again. My glass costs many times where
the bodies cost. Bob is the one talking about silly high MP cameras.
One of the best cameras in the world is a D2Hs, and only 4 MP.
You can bet Bob owns nada in lenses or bodies.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

Who cares about 8x10 prints?

Ansel Adams did. He used a Sinar P 8x10 view camera and made B&W contact
prints.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
And Huffy is the OFFICIAL bike of the US Olympic Cycling Team!


Bad new, Bob. Huffy (under a different name of course) makes premium
high end bike frames and developed the breaking systems along with
Mafak some years back also found on today's racers.

Huffy never made any such frames. Other framebuilders made them and Huffy
stamped their name on them.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And Huffy is the OFFICIAL bike of the US Olympic Cycling Team!



Mafak

Whazzat? Mavic, maybe?

Max

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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http://www.hasselblad.se/

Nice, but a little bit bulky for working on the water.

John Cairns

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Bobs got a better camera than you.

Your glass is crap Brody and made from inferior sand.

Joe

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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It's a function of lens size and film quality. The camera body actually
has
very little to do with anything (notice Robbie's emphasis on camera
body).


Notice how poor Bob is busted again. My glass costs many times where
the bodies cost. Bob is the one talking about silly high MP cameras.
One of the best cameras in the world is a D2Hs, and only 4 MP.
You can bet Bob owns nada in lenses or bodies.

RB
35s5
NY

No matter how hard you're thrown to the mat you always get back up. When the
folding chair has a profile of your head impressed into the seat you still
stagger back into the ring. Best of all - You can resist a camera troll!

All of my cameras and lenses are on my boat!

Amen!

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All of my cameras and lenses are on my boat!



Now you're just being silly.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...
On 25 Apr 2006 03:12:10 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

All of my cameras and lenses are on my boat!



Now you're just being silly.


RB
35s5
NY

I think he was trying to tell you that the lenses he doesn't have are on
the
boat he doesn't have.

At least someone gets it. I don't own a boat and I don't own any cameras.


He's always silly.

Or making someone else look silly!

Amen!