You work hard all of your life....you take care of the family, spending
long hours behind the wheel, in the factory, maintaining the home and
wondering why others get so much for doing so little. Still, you know
how the Tortoise won the race, so you labor on....and finally...at long
last and with great relief you get your reward.......

And it's a Seidelmann, among the cheapest low end boats ever. Or it's a
Express 30...perhaps even more of a dinosaur with it's horrible lines,
all hard angles and a head that is part of the forward sleeping area.
Good grief. Even Steve was driven to sell his before it needed yet
another set of glue-on ports!
Perhaps even worse, you find yourself demoted, gunkholed aboard a tired
steel monstrous motorsailor that rarely, if ever, sails at all. Then
again, what possible fun could it be to handle such an ill mannered
bulbous barge? Then there are the sort who are forever claiming they're
looking for a modern nice boat, but can't afford it and call their
tired worn tubs "classics." Enter Sea Sprites and Nordica
designs....lord help us. I suppose that any full keep boat that can't
sail upwind is a classic these days. It's the great backward indeed for
these poor sailors.

Then there are some of us who strive for better things....better
living, better sex, better art and of course....better boats.

Ladies and gentleman, the Beneteau First 35s5. She's one of the fastest
shoal draft cruisers around and she has an aft cabin and head suitable
for those over 6 feet tall. She's fast, fun and well built. 16 years
old and she's held up better than the Island Packets, C&Cs and
Ericson's in my yard of the same vintage.

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RB
35s5
NY

Isn't that stern light too low to shine the required 2 miles?


Lloyd

Isn't that stern light too low to shine the required 2 miles?


Somebody who actually sails already tried that troll, but they did it
better by questioning the angle of visibility.


RB
35s5
NY

Hey Nutsy,

Don't know for sure if your trolling or really have a question? Anyway;
to answer your question. Plain wire are cleaner when new, Easier to
clean, easier to inspect visually, better if your system is designed to
HOLD as the stanchons let go BUT a covered line doesn't develop "Meat
Hooks" as it ages, a clip from a safety line doesn't wear on a single
strand, and is much nicer on the hands getting on & off the boat, The
covered lines will develop crack with age and won't look to sharp but
will still work.

Make your pick and tell us why and how much better they a^)

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Thom Stewart wrote:
Hey Nutsy,

Don't know for sure if your trolling or really have a question?

He's got nothing but questions.

... Anyway;
to answer your question. Plain wire are cleaner when new, Easier to
clean, easier to inspect visually, better if your system is designed to
HOLD as the stanchons let go BUT a covered line doesn't develop "Meat
Hooks" as it ages, a clip from a safety line doesn't wear on a single
strand, and is much nicer on the hands getting on & off the boat, The
covered lines will develop crack with age and won't look to sharp but
will still work.


The plastic coated wire is very common, but isn't ABYC or
ORC approved for lifelines. The reason is that the plastic
coating hides flaws in the wire & at the terminals, making
it much more likely to fail under load.

A lot of boats are using UV-protected hi-tech line, spectra
or some such, for lifelines. Make the loops with hog rings
(those little metal clips) and cover them with heat-shrink.
Strong, very low stretch, no meat hooks, easy on the hands.
I don't like bare wire lifelines myself.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I've seen rope lifelines. It makes sense for two reasons,
less weight and ease of installation.

The downside is they can be cut more easily
than wire rope. I'd feel safer with wire rope.
I'd lean towards going a size larger and skipping
the cover. I've never seen a meat hook on a lifeline,
only on halyards and shrouds.

"DSK" wrote
A lot of boats are using UV-protected hi-tech line, spectra or some such,
for lifelines. Make the loops with hog rings (those little metal clips)
and cover them with heat-shrink. Strong, very low stretch, no meat hooks,
easy on the hands. I don't like bare wire lifelines myself.

The only thing brokeback Bob can pick on his own is his nose and ass.

Joe

Doesn't it have to be 3 feet above the water to have a 2 mile horizon?

Amen!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Isn't that stern light too low to shine the required 2 miles?


Somebody who actually sails already tried that troll, but they did it
better by questioning the angle of visibility.


RB
35s5
NY