"dog" wrote in message
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Apparently, unique is another way of saying UGLY.

Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is
"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.

"They all look the same to moi," he would say, after walking the dock up and
down a few times.

Now repeat the same test with a season sailor. His response would not be
dissimilar. Plastic boats from France have the distinction of all looking
pretty much alike.

Now put a single Panda 34 or a CCA-style boat in with all the Beneteaus and
ask the same two individuals the same question. Doubtlessly you'll get a
quick and definitive response from both.

Max

Keep trying, Maxi....but the truth is that the 35s5, 32s5 and 35s7
don't look like other sailboats.

And for that the owners of those other sailboats are eternally
grateful.


Sorry, Maxi, you already wrote that you liked the looks of the 35s5...a
tad late to troll otherwise. Of course I know you're yanking my
chain....what else do we do here?

Very established design = attractive.

Actually I like the CD 30 quite a bit. I'm brokering one right now. The
Catalina 28 doens't look like anything to me. It's the very definition
of a me-too boat. As for the Express 30, I mean no insult to Sloco, but
that thing's got awful lines. It's one of the few boats that still
looks bad under sail.

There may have been a ton, but not anymore. Most were wood and rotted into
oblivion.

I'm on the LIS and there are a lot of those boats with those lines
here; enough that they sort of blend into eachother and you can get
confused as to which is which. That's not to say that they aren't
pretty boats. They are. But if you want a boat that looks different and
sails well....look to a Beneteau 35s5, Swan 36 or even a Freedom 35
with it's cool rig. In you want modern sailing capability mixed with
more classic lines...then an Alerion 28 or 37/38 (either version).



RB
35s5
NY

Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the
average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus
in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is

"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.


I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone. There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C. My
ex-girlfriend saw the 35s5 for the first time last month (She's owned a
Catalina 27, J24 and now a late model Catalina 30) and was utterly
wowed by the 35s5. She wants to buy one!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the
average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus
in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is

"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.


I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone. There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C. My
ex-girlfriend saw the 35s5 for the first time last month (She's owned a
Catalina 27, J24 and now a late model Catalina 30) and was utterly
wowed by the 35s5. She wants to buy one!

Maybe you should sell her yours. Instant profit?

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I'm on the LIS and there are a lot of those boats with those lines
here; enough that they sort of blend into eachother and you can get
confused as to which is which.

Boats weren't actually built to the CCA rule back then. Rather designers
built boats that followed the conventional design wisdom of the times, and
the rule was devised to avoid penalizing such "cruising" boats. So, yes,
boats from that era did tend to resemble each other: active sheer lines,
low freeboard, narrow beams, curved overhanging bow, bustle in the rear,
etc. But at least around here they are absolutely unique. We have tons of
Beneteaus, Catalinas, Hunters, O'Days, Pearsons, etc. lining our docks, and
a CCA-period boat certainly looks unique by comparison. YMMV out there on
the Right Coast, where more of such boats persist.

That's not to say that they aren't
pretty boats. They are. But if you want a boat that looks different and
sails well....look to a Beneteau 35s5, Swan 36 or even a Freedom 35
with it's cool rig. In you want modern sailing capability mixed with
more classic lines...then an Alerion 28 or 37/38 (either version).

I agree that the Alerions look different--attractive--but disagree with the
25s5, Swan 36, or the Freedom 35. Yeah, they aren't quite like the other
boats of the same age, but they are close enough to be indistinguishable
unless the observer's eye is well-versed in boat models and brands. We saw
a 36 Swan in the BVI some years ago. It was moored two boats from us, and I
thought it was attractive, but couldn't immediately name it. Others on our
boat came up with wrong names, and I finally jumped into the dink and
motored over to see what it was. That window over the top of the coach roof
gave it away as I got closer. If it weren't for that, I'm not sure I could
have identified it. And I think Freedoms look a lot like Catalinas, etc.
Your boat is more distinctive than either of those two examples.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone.

LOL..... Oh Puleeeze Bobsprit...... at least attempt a modicum of truth in
your fabrications!

There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C.

Like the 35s5??? Bleach Bottle Boats all look alike!!

Shiny white plastic fin keelers lined up in a row! It's a wonder you don't
take the wrong boat out every so often by mistake and wonder why the
performance curve has taken such a twist.... then again that might be
difficult under power Eh!???

CM-

"Mys Terry" wrote in message

Just remember, Jeffie... If he sells this boat, he'll be buying an even
better
one!

Heh Bobsprit... I thought you got up early to let your lap dog out.... Looks
like he wants back in!! Bwahahahahahahahahhaaaa

Who! WHO! Who who..... Who let the dog out.. WHO?!! :-)

CM-

Famous designer Philip Starck

Who?


He's had his designs at MOMA, so it's not surprising you've never heard
of him. What's pretty funny is that a google search easily turns up the
following:

"Philippe Patrick Starck (born January 18, 1949) is a well-known French
designer and probably the best known designer in the New Design style.
His designs range from spectacular interior designs to mass produced
consumer goods such as toothbrushes, chairs, and even houses."

By the way, MOMA stands for Museum of Modern Art. And a museum is where
artifacts, art and natural history are recorded or preserved. Perhaps
you have a museum close to you. Ask someone to take you.

By the way, my interior is hand signed by Starck.


RB
35s5
NY

Pretty boat, Ozzy. Is that yours in the pic?

Scotty



OzOne wrote in messag

Bob, I have non boating friends who've been won over by my
1950's putt
putt and can't wait for an invitation to chug up the river
in her so
they ring and suggest they bring over a couple of bottles
of
chardonnay an a few kilos of prawns knowing full well that
the best
place to consume them is out on the river.
Oh, she cost all of $4000 incl the trailer though I'm
sorely tempted
to update to this beauty
http://tinyurl.com/nkqda


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting
you.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
Like the 35s5??? Bleach Bottle Boats all look alike!!

Like the mall parking lot full of silver SUVs.

SBV