Do you have a copy of Darcy Lever's "Young Sea Officer's Sheet Anchor?"

Bart Senior wrote:
I have it. I should pull it out and re-read it. As I recall is
was a bit dry reading.

True. I cna't say I have ever sat down and read thru it,
cover-to-cover. But I have read quite a bit of it, studied
some of the details for rigging... for example he talks
about how to rig bowlines and says that they are passing out
of style, but not why. How to mouse a keg for use as a
mooring ball, etc etc. And the maneuvers are great... for
example I believe one of your Seamanship Question series you
asked a while back was the difference between box-hauling
and club-hauling. I didn't know the answer but knew exactly
where to look it up!



.... It is not up to modern standards on
illustration, writing style, and terminology. I found some parts
difficult to understand because I was unfamiliar with some of
the arcane terminology.


Sure. But you can at least get the idea of what they are
trying to accomplish, since the basics of getting a sail to
stand up have not changed. And the drawings are still
interesting.

DSK

I served three years as a member of the crew on the Elissa in Galveston
(built in Aberdeen Scotland in 1877; see: http://www.tsm-elissa.org/).
As a crew member, I sailed on her several times. Working the sails
while standing on the foot rope beneath the topgallant yardarm while
sailing in rather brisk winds was an unforgettable experience, and the
view was spectacular.

Jim


G&G wrote:
Have actually sailed on a tall ship?
Abby

I served several years on the crew of the Elissa and sailed on her a
number of times. The Elissa is a barque built in 1877 in Aberdeen
Scotland, now docked in Galveston. (See:
http://www.tsm-elissa.org/elissa-main.htm.)

Working the sails 100 feet above the water while standing on a footrope
extending beneath the top gallant yardarm, while under sail in rather
brisk winds, was an unforgetable experience, and the views were spectacular.

Jim Cate


G&G wrote:

Have actually sailed on a tall ship?
Abby

"G&G" wrote:
Have actually sailed on a tall ship?
Abby

I've been on way too short of sails on Bounty, Alexandria,
and Gizella.

Seahag

Well, what's the verdict? How many of us are "real sailors"

In my case, in addition to sailing on the 1877 tall ship Elissa, I have
had the high honor of sailing the new MacGregor 26M. - Not many on this
ng have actually experienced that privilege, and you can add that to our
list of accomplishments.

Jim




G&G wrote:

Have actually sailed on a tall ship?
Abby

Yes, not many real sailors have "experienced" the Mac26M. :-)

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Well, what's the verdict? How many of us are "real sailors"

In my case, in addition to sailing on the 1877 tall ship Elissa, I have
had the high honor of sailing the new MacGregor 26M. - Not many on this ng
have actually experienced that privilege, and you can add that to our list
of accomplishments.

Jim




G&G wrote:

Have actually sailed on a tall ship?
Abby

Compared with the Elissa, the Mac 26M seems more comfortable under sail.
On the Elissa, for example, we had to climb 100 feet up the masts to
adjust the topgallant, and it gets pretty wild up there when the wind
picks up, Jon. (Don't know whether you have ever climbed the rigging on
a tall rigger under sail or not. - Have you?) By contrast, on my Mac,
the lines are led aft to the cockpit, so you don't have to climb the
mast at all. Also, the Elissa (141-ft waterline) had a rather pronounced
pitching motion under sail that got on your nerves after a few hours.
The Mac, of course, can either sail, or plane at 14-16 knots over most
waters, which I find more comfortable.

However, the Elissa has put in many more miles at sea than my boat or
most modern vessels, since it was under sail, and later, power, for a
period of 100+ years, crossing the Atlantic many times. It was selected
for the maritime museum in Galveston because it was a part of
Galveston's history, bringing cargo there from South America and England
in the 1800's.

Jim




Capt. JG wrote:

Yes, not many real sailors have "experienced" the Mac26M. :-)

I don't believe comfort under sail is the criteria for whether or not one is
a real sailor.

I'm shocked that you've never climbed the rigging on your Mac.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Compared with the Elissa, the Mac 26M seems more comfortable under sail.
On the Elissa, for example, we had to climb 100 feet up the masts to
adjust the topgallant, and it gets pretty wild up there when the wind
picks up, Jon. (Don't know whether you have ever climbed the rigging on a
tall rigger under sail or not. - Have you?) By contrast, on my Mac, the
lines are led aft to the cockpit, so you don't have to climb the mast at
all. Also, the Elissa (141-ft waterline) had a rather pronounced pitching
motion under sail that got on your nerves after a few hours. The Mac, of
course, can either sail, or plane at 14-16 knots over most waters, which
I find more comfortable.

However, the Elissa has put in many more miles at sea than my boat or most
modern vessels, since it was under sail, and later, power, for a period of
100+ years, crossing the Atlantic many times. It was selected for the
maritime museum in Galveston because it was a part of Galveston's history,
bringing cargo there from South America and England in the 1800's.

Jim




Capt. JG wrote:

Yes, not many real sailors have "experienced" the Mac26M. :-)

My Barcolounger is more comfy, and more seaworthy than a
Mac26X, plus there's no rigging to climb.

SBV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I don't believe comfort under sail is the criteria for
whether or not one is
a real sailor.

I'm shocked that you've never climbed the rigging on your
Mac.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Compared with the Elissa, the Mac 26M seems more
comfortable under sail.
On the Elissa, for example, we had to climb 100 feet up
the masts to
adjust the topgallant, and it gets pretty wild up there
when the wind
picks up, Jon. (Don't know whether you have ever
climbed the rigging on a
tall rigger under sail or not. - Have you?) By contrast,
on my Mac, the
lines are led aft to the cockpit, so you don't have to
climb the mast at
all. Also, the Elissa (141-ft waterline) had a rather
pronounced pitching
motion under sail that got on your nerves after a few
hours. The Mac, of
course, can either sail, or plane at 14-16 knots over
most waters, which
I find more comfortable.

However, the Elissa has put in many more miles at sea
than my boat or most
modern vessels, since it was under sail, and later,
power, for a period of
100+ years, crossing the Atlantic many times. It was
selected for the
maritime museum in Galveston because it was a part of
Galveston's history,
bringing cargo there from South America and England in
the 1800's.

Jim




Capt. JG wrote:

Yes, not many real sailors have "experienced" the
Mac26M. :-)