Can anyone post an image or link to a chart of
the English Channel showing the area known as
the Downs, and an area called the "Hammer and
Anvil"?

Hmmm... well, I found this chart.. I put it he

http://sailnow.photosite.com/Charts/

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Can anyone post an image or link to a chart of
the English Channel showing the area known as
the Downs, and an area called the "Hammer and
Anvil"?

Thanks for trying. I'm looking to find an area near the
Downs called the Hammer and Anvil.

"Capt. JG" wrote
Hmmm... well, I found this chart.. I put it he

http://sailnow.photosite.com/Charts/

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:06:08 -0500, wrote:

Can anyone post an image or link to a chart of the English Channel showing
the area known as the Downs, and an area called the "Hammer and Anvil"?

Nope, but I did find out where the Downs are. It might help.

"THE DOWNS is also the name of a roadstead in the English Channel off Deal
between the North and the South Foreland. It forms a favorite anchorage
during heavy weather, protected on the east by the Goodwin Sands and on
the north and west by the coast. It has depths down to 12 fathoms. Even
during southerly gales some shelter is afforded, though under this
condition wrecks are not infrequent."

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:17:28 -0500, wrote:

That's the spot. Do you have any charts of this area?

Sorry, but I couldn't find anything. Are you reading about a sea-battle?

"THE DOWNS is also the name of a roadstead in the English Channel off
Deal between the North and the South Foreland. It forms a favorite
anchorage during heavy weather, protected on the east by the Goodwin
Sands and on the north and west by the coast. It has depths down to 12
fathoms. Even during southerly gales some shelter is afforded, though
under this condition wrecks are not infrequent."

No, I was reading about a bunch of boats caught in there
and how one weatherly schooner escaped by sailing between
the Hammer and Anvil. Those may be fictional or real. If
real, I'd like to see it in detail. Master and Commander
Series, Vol 17 The schooner was the "Ringle".


"thunder" wrote
Sorry, but I couldn't find anything. Are you reading about a sea-battle?

"THE DOWNS is also the name of a roadstead in the English Channel off
Deal between the North and the South Foreland. It forms a favorite
anchorage during heavy weather, protected on the east by the Goodwin
Sands and on the north and west by the coast. It has depths down to 12
fathoms. Even during southerly gales some shelter is afforded, though
under this condition wrecks are not infrequent."

I found an old chart. I'm guessing the hammer and
anvil is either fictional or else to the east side near
the sand bar.

"thunder" wrote

That's the spot. Do you have any charts of this area?

Sorry, but I couldn't find anything. Are you reading about a sea-battle?

"THE DOWNS is also the name of a roadstead in the English Channel off
Deal between the North and the South Foreland. It forms a favorite
anchorage during heavy weather, protected on the east by the Goodwin
Sands and on the north and west by the coast. It has depths down to 12
fathoms. Even during southerly gales some shelter is afforded, though
under this condition wrecks are not infrequent."

It was real, though I hve no chart of it. I have seen references to it in a
number of scholarly works (Naval histories) over the years. Don't know how
the centuries have changed it.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
No, I was reading about a bunch of boats caught in there
and how one weatherly schooner escaped by sailing between
the Hammer and Anvil. Those may be fictional or real. If
real, I'd like to see it in detail. Master and Commander
Series, Vol 17 The schooner was the "Ringle".


"thunder" wrote
Sorry, but I couldn't find anything. Are you reading about a sea-battle?

"THE DOWNS is also the name of a roadstead in the English Channel off
Deal between the North and the South Foreland. It forms a favorite
anchorage during heavy weather, protected on the east by the Goodwin
Sands and on the north and west by the coast. It has depths down to 12
fathoms. Even during southerly gales some shelter is afforded, though
under this condition wrecks are not infrequent."