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DSK March 2nd 06 01:29 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Not sure which came out first, the Evelyn 24 or the J-24,
but I recall thinking they were fairly similar 'way back then.



Dave wrote:
Very similar. That's no doubt why I put the J-24 with the Evelyn in my mind.
I was sailing an old 24' Islander and crewing on P-32 at the time, and was
pretty impressed with the speed of both of the light cored-hull boats.



Now that I think about it, they are similar in form except
that the Evelyn was designed as an IOR 1/4 Tonner and the
J-24 wasn't designed "to" any particular rule. All of
Evelyns designs (they did a 42') are similar in hull form
and AFAIK they're all masthead rigs too.


... The
Coasties raced the J-24s. One of the things I do remember is that they were
usually the first to retire when the wind piped up.



Because they were Coasties or because they were in J-24s ;)

Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat.
One of the reasons I like fracs. Gear & sailing style has
changed though, that was a long time ago ... and a lot of
bouncier, squirrellier boats have come out since then too.

DSK


Ringmaster March 2nd 06 02:19 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.

Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air. You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.


DSK March 2nd 06 03:34 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.


Ringmaster wrote:
Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air.


Is it a matter of other boats in the fleet that sail to
their ratings better in heavy air? If it's rigged right, the
J-24 is alot of fun in heavy air, but it may not be as
competitive as in light. OTOH there are a lot of boats that
aren't much fun and get to be a PITA (although I grant you
the J-24's deck layout isn't so comfy for the crew in the
bouncy stuff).

... You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.


I have read about those. Oddly enough when it first
happened, it didn't make all that big an impression because
there were a lot of boats around that sank when swamped.
Back in the mid-70s at a regatta with a 470, we helped two
guys off a Tempest that sank, and Solings used to sink
often... then go back to older generations of keelboats &
everybody assumed that of course they'd sink if knocked down
hard enough.

In general, I am against efforts to make the world
foolproof, but in the case of positive flotation, I'm all in
favor!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Bart Senior March 2nd 06 09:03 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
The way to sink a J-24 is to leave the
lazarete hatched unsecured. I've sailed the
in big air, many times. You need some
crew balast. If you have that they can
handle it fine with a couple of reefs and a
blade jib. They do not go well upwind with
out the jib, with the main reefed.

"Ringmaster" wrote
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.

Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air. You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.




John Cairns March 2nd 06 10:44 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
The Evelyn 32 is a good choice in it's size range for a racer/cruiser...
really not much more of a weekender cabin, but it's OK
http://www.soundingsonline.com/cadde...2/72200072.htm

Besides there are some people I might want to visit while in town too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


We occasionally race against 'em in these parts.

John Cairns




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