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DSK February 28th 06 04:39 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
The Evelyn 32 is a good choice in it's size range for a
racer/cruiser... really not much more of a weekender cabin,
but it's OK
http://www.soundingsonline.com/cadde...2/72200072.htm

Besides there are some people I might want to visit while in
town too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bart Senior February 28th 06 05:04 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
One of these sold for $19k a few years ago. It might be
the same boat. It was located at Liberty Landing in New
Jersey--not far from Stamford.

They are nice looking boats and pretty good in light air.
I'd like to sail one sometime to see what it is like. I've
heard they are a little cramped below.

"DSK" wrote
The Evelyn 32 is a good choice in it's size range for a racer/cruiser...
really not much more of a weekender cabin, but it's OK
http://www.soundingsonline.com/cadde...2/72200072.htm

Besides there are some people I might want to visit while in town too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Scotty February 28th 06 10:31 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Not much info on that page, and no pic!

Say hi to Rusty for me., too

SV

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
The Evelyn 32 is a good choice in it's size range for a
racer/cruiser... really not much more of a weekender

cabin,
but it's OK

http://www.soundingsonline.com/cadde.../ad-cache/6/7/
2/72200072.htm

Besides there are some people I might want to visit while

in
town too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




DSK February 28th 06 01:58 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Scotty wrote:
Not much info on that page, and no pic!

Say hi to Rusty for me., too


Dang Scotty you ruin all the fun.

DSK


Ringmaster March 1st 06 04:58 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Try this page:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eevelyn32-sailboat/


DSK March 1st 06 12:31 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Ringmaster wrote:

Try this page:

http://home.comcast.net/%7Eevelyn32-sailboat/



Thanks for the link, I did find that page earlier after
hunting around a while. The funny thing is that almost every
boat listed is for sale.

Things that make you go "Hmmmm-mmm."

Another boat I am considering:
Beneteau First Class 10
LOA 34.0
LWL 32.0
Bm 9.7
Dr 5.9
Disp 5,500
Ballast 2,200
SA 559
SA/D= 28.8
D/L= 75
Frac, inboard, bulb keel, PHRF= 102

From the numbers it looks like this boat should rate at
least ten points lower, but it is an older design. Still it
should be a lot of fun to sail even without a sprit.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Ringmaster March 1st 06 05:02 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Another boat I am considering: Beneteau First Class 10

There's one for sale in Annapolis called "L'Outrage" It's been a
winner for many years on the bay and beyond.


Ringmaster March 1st 06 05:12 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Wasn't the Evelyn 32 a Rodney Johnston design created after his
hugely
successful J-24? IIRC it was named for his wife.

Not unless he was married to Bob Evelyn.


DSK March 1st 06 05:18 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Another boat I am considering: Beneteau First Class 10

Ringmaster wrote:
There's one for sale in Annapolis called "L'Outrage" It's been a
winner for many years on the bay and beyond.


.... pause while googling up some bits from the racing record
of "L'Outrage"...

Dang, he has won a lot of stuff. Obviously a very good
sailor. Why would he want to sell? I can't find a listing
for it.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



DSK March 1st 06 05:20 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Wasn't the Evelyn 32 a Rodney Johnston design created after his
hugely
successful J-24? IIRC it was named for his wife.


Ringmaster wrote:
Not unless he was married to Bob Evelyn.


LOL

Not sure which came out first, the Evelyn 24 or the J-24,
but I recall thinking they were fairly similar 'way back then.

DSK


DSK March 2nd 06 01:29 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Not sure which came out first, the Evelyn 24 or the J-24,
but I recall thinking they were fairly similar 'way back then.



Dave wrote:
Very similar. That's no doubt why I put the J-24 with the Evelyn in my mind.
I was sailing an old 24' Islander and crewing on P-32 at the time, and was
pretty impressed with the speed of both of the light cored-hull boats.



Now that I think about it, they are similar in form except
that the Evelyn was designed as an IOR 1/4 Tonner and the
J-24 wasn't designed "to" any particular rule. All of
Evelyns designs (they did a 42') are similar in hull form
and AFAIK they're all masthead rigs too.


... The
Coasties raced the J-24s. One of the things I do remember is that they were
usually the first to retire when the wind piped up.



Because they were Coasties or because they were in J-24s ;)

Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat.
One of the reasons I like fracs. Gear & sailing style has
changed though, that was a long time ago ... and a lot of
bouncier, squirrellier boats have come out since then too.

DSK


Ringmaster March 2nd 06 02:19 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.

Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air. You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.


DSK March 2nd 06 03:34 AM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.


Ringmaster wrote:
Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air.


Is it a matter of other boats in the fleet that sail to
their ratings better in heavy air? If it's rigged right, the
J-24 is alot of fun in heavy air, but it may not be as
competitive as in light. OTOH there are a lot of boats that
aren't much fun and get to be a PITA (although I grant you
the J-24's deck layout isn't so comfy for the crew in the
bouncy stuff).

... You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.


I have read about those. Oddly enough when it first
happened, it didn't make all that big an impression because
there were a lot of boats around that sank when swamped.
Back in the mid-70s at a regatta with a 470, we helped two
guys off a Tempest that sank, and Solings used to sink
often... then go back to older generations of keelboats &
everybody assumed that of course they'd sink if knocked down
hard enough.

In general, I am against efforts to make the world
foolproof, but in the case of positive flotation, I'm all in
favor!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Bart Senior March 2nd 06 09:03 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 
The way to sink a J-24 is to leave the
lazarete hatched unsecured. I've sailed the
in big air, many times. You need some
crew balast. If you have that they can
handle it fine with a couple of reefs and a
blade jib. They do not go well upwind with
out the jib, with the main reefed.

"Ringmaster" wrote
Actually I think the J-24 is a pretty good heavy air boat. One of
the reasons I like fracs.

Actually I think it's just the opposite. We have a drysailed J24 in
our fleet that is sailed very well. They do great in light air but
suck big time in heavy air. You should also do some reading on how
many J24s have sunk when knocked down.




John Cairns March 2nd 06 10:44 PM

Looking for a boat this spring
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
The Evelyn 32 is a good choice in it's size range for a racer/cruiser...
really not much more of a weekender cabin, but it's OK
http://www.soundingsonline.com/cadde...2/72200072.htm

Besides there are some people I might want to visit while in town too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


We occasionally race against 'em in these parts.

John Cairns




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