If they use Profurl on the Southern Ocean it is good
enough for me. I'm waiting for my new unit to come
in. LC42 model. And I won't have to cut, modify,
or swag the forestay. Also I'll be able to install it with
the forestay attached to the top of the mast.

"DSK" wrote
Seems they always fail in situations like this.

Wrong. They rarely fail in situations like this.


Dave wrote:
There's a classic case of ships passing in the night. Joe meant that when
they fail, it's usually in conditions like this. Doug replied that they
usually work, including usually working in conditions like this. Aside
from
Doug's word "Wrong," the two statements are, of course, not mutually
exclusive.

If the roller furlers work only a small percent of the time "in situations
like this" then it is wrong to say that they always fail. In other words,
the two statements *are* mutually exclusive.

When a survey taken of serious long-term passagemakers includes gear,
roller furlers are almost always regarded as among the most reliable gear
on the boat. In fact I recall seeing a survey of a large group (20) of
circumnavigators, none of whom reported a single roller furler problem.

In other words, there is no reason to assume that roller furlers suck,
unless
1- you have another agenda wholly divorced from reality
2- you assume that the given roller furler is not sized, installed, or
maintained correctly
3- you can't afford a roller furler anyway and are bitter & spiteful

I think Joe is somewhere between 1 & 2. The Crapton was a strong 3. Maybe
somebody should google up of Jax's pronouncements on roller furlers, that
might be amusing.

DSK