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"Maxprop" wrote in message

1) You might take a job someday that requires travel in the US.

No I wouldn't... no need to.

2) One of your friends or relatives might be involved in an auto accident
in the US, and you'd be called upon to intercede on their behalf.

I wouldn't go there for that reason anymore than I would travel to Iraq for
the same. If any of my relatives are stupid enought to travel someplace I
wouldn't go.. they're on their own. Crate the carcass and ship it back....
Pre-paid!

3). Scotty and I might come up there, hog tie you, put a bag over your
head, knock you unconscious, and allow you to find yourself regaining
consciousness in Laredo, TX, in the barrios.

I've been in Laredo..... and neither of you have the resource nor
capability to undertake such an overwhelming task. The pair of you would end
up drunk and passed out at the local bar waiting for me to finish my 16th
beer.

CM

Bavaria Yachts, Fatality, Keel Bolt Backing Plates, Quality Control Problem
 

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 20:36:30 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:

Good to hear it , Ozzy. better safe than sorry.
The 'guys' sailing your boat back...how's that work, are
you
paying them? They friends doing you a favor? or are they
just getting a free sailing trip?

Scotty


2 of 3....they are friends who were planning a Pacific
cruise so I get
my boat delivered and they get the cruise.
They have the boat until our next summer if they want.

good deal all around, eh?

Scotty

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...
I've never smoked--not tobacco, anyway--and have no
intention to start. But
Cuban cigars seem, for some reason, to bring top dollar on
the black market
these days


When I go to Canaduh I usually have a shopping list of cigar
brands to bring back. Can't remember the names right now.

Scotty

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty

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"Maxprop" wrote...

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane.
It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But
for Mooron to deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this
country has to offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in
a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if
he enters the US
or not.

And now we have to take our shoes off. What's up with that?

Did they watch a 'Get Smart' rerun?

Scotty

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You could come here to look at all of our Gold Medals.
;)


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZlcLf.636$M52.364@edtnps89...

"Maxprop" wrote in message

1) You might take a job someday that requires travel in
the US.

No I wouldn't... no need to.

2) One of your friends or relatives might be involved in
an auto accident
in the US, and you'd be called upon to intercede on
their behalf.

I wouldn't go there for that reason anymore than I would
travel to Iraq for
the same. If any of my relatives are stupid enought to
travel someplace I
wouldn't go.. they're on their own. Crate the carcass and
ship it back....
Pre-paid!

3). Scotty and I might come up there, hog tie you, put a
bag over your
head, knock you unconscious, and allow you to find
yourself regaining
consciousness in Laredo, TX, in the barrios.

I've been in Laredo..... and neither of you have the
resource nor
capability to undertake such an overwhelming task. The
pair of you would end
up drunk and passed out at the local bar waiting for me to
finish my 16th
beer.

CM

Bavaria Yachts, Fatality, Keel Bolt Backing Plates, Quality Control Problem
 

OzOne wrote in message
Bob, unlike you, I have a trust in most professionals.
In fact I did not commission my own survey but relied on having people
whom my US friends recommended inspecting the rig, sails and engine.
I gave the hull a quick look over and a diver did the
underwater..again a recommendation of a trusted friend.
The boat was not hauled, but a full survey document was available
(with a little encouragement) from the surveyor who had assessed the
yacht for the bank that had repoed it.


Oz, if you trust professionals why did you get amateurs to survey your boat?
The surveyors assessment for the bank is not the same as a full professional
survey as
the bank would only want a professional opinion on the market value of the
boat
they had taken in as repo. This survey would therefore leave many items you
should
have been interested in unchecked.

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How many have you guys got so far???
Canada nailed both Gold & Silver on Women's Speed Skating. Still... that
won't do much to lessen the embarrassment of our Men's Hockey Team.....
those bunch of fricken slackers will catch **** when they come home with
their tails between their legs. What a **** poor performance they had!

CM

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
You could come here to look at all of our Gold Medals.
;)


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZlcLf.636$M52.364@edtnps89...

"Maxprop" wrote in message

1) You might take a job someday that requires travel in
the US.

No I wouldn't... no need to.

2) One of your friends or relatives might be involved in
an auto accident
in the US, and you'd be called upon to intercede on
their behalf.

I wouldn't go there for that reason anymore than I would
travel to Iraq for
the same. If any of my relatives are stupid enought to
travel someplace I
wouldn't go.. they're on their own. Crate the carcass and
ship it back....
Pre-paid!

3). Scotty and I might come up there, hog tie you, put a
bag over your
head, knock you unconscious, and allow you to find
yourself regaining
consciousness in Laredo, TX, in the barrios.

I've been in Laredo..... and neither of you have the
resource nor
capability to undertake such an overwhelming task. The
pair of you would end
up drunk and passed out at the local bar waiting for me to
finish my 16th
beer.

CM

Bavaria Yachts, it's a fine boat don't worry!
 

"Scotty" wrote in message

good deal all around, eh?

Is the DIL visiting...... you're sounding more like a Cannuck every time you
post... Eh!

Must explain your increased sense of humour and I bet you can chug back
twice as many rums now. :-)

CM

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In article ,
Scotty wrote:

"Maxprop" wrote...

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane.
It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But
for Mooron to deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this
country has to offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in
a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if
he enters the US
or not.

And now we have to take our shoes off. What's up with that?

Did they watch a 'Get Smart' rerun?

Who's hotter... Agent 99 or Ema Peel?
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:30:37 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the
US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)


You think 8% would make a difference.

Scotty

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

And now we have to take our shoes off. What's up with
that?

Did they watch a 'Get Smart' rerun?

Who's hotter... Agent 99 or Ema Peel?


Jeannie!

Bavaria Yachts, it's a fine boat don't worry!
 

Yah, she's been ''visiting'' now for 6 months, eh.
;)

Scotty

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:IalLf.123$Ui.114@edtnps84...

"Scotty" wrote in message

good deal all around, eh?

Is the DIL visiting...... you're sounding more like a
Cannuck every time you
post... Eh!

Must explain your increased sense of humour and I bet you
can chug back
twice as many rums now. :-)

CM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:19:21 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


"jlr" one wrote in message
gy.net...
In the USA? How many times were you shot at? Did the muggers take
all
your cash? Any rednecks kick your ass? Any racists ASSUALT YOUR
WIFE?

Relax, JR. There is a general rule regarding those who love to rip on
the
United States: they choose to visit here because of the substantial
quantity of resources and attractions we have to offer, and they
subsequently discover that this really is not an unsafe place to be,
provided you don't stupidly or deliberately put yourself in harm's way.
To
the contrary they discover that their vacations come off without a
hitch,
are enjoyable, and often exceed their expectations.
Of course, You have a beautiful country with scenery and possibility
for adventure that is absolutely astounding.
Unfortunately you also have sewers like Los Angeles.

Of course they return home and resume their diatribe against the USA.
Their
like-minded friends just love to hear how awful and dangerous this
country
is.
You need to get out more....

Then there's Mooron, who's worried about retinal scans and such. I
think
he
must have something in his past that he doesn't want uncovered. g

Either that or he is happy where he is

That is certainly reasonable.

and unwilling to go through the
charade of US Customs and Security.

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane. It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But for Mooron to
deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this country has to
offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if he enters the
US
or not.

Max



Sure, you go thru a scanner....do you need have your details
transmitted to US Custome when you board an aircraft so they can have
a full check done on you by the time you arrive?
Do you get fingerprinted on each arrival in the US?
Do you need to advise Immigration where you'll be spending your time
in the US?

US citizens aren't subjected to those things.

Yes, it's a nice country, but still the customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the US are
inspected..

It may very well be a charade, and it may not be. I really don't know, as
I'm not involved with the process. But my original contention stands: if
someone avoids the US simply on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced,
he is hurting only him/herself. Did you let it stop you from entering?

The inspection of containers here is a sore subject. Many are angry because
they are not inspected. My personal belief is that a thorough inspection of
all incoming containers is not feasible or practical. Customs officials
generally open them to see that the cargo matches the bill of lading, but
they don't unload them and carefully inspect everything contained therein.
Nor can that be reasonably done.

Max

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:30:37 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)

How would you inspect every container entering the US?

Max

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:39:58 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:30:37 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the
US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)


You think 8% would make a difference.

Scotty

Nope....
Homeland security is just smoke, mirrors and inconvenience.

Maybe that's all it takes to prevent another attack on the order of 9/11/01.

You're an ex-cop. How would you deal with terrorism in Australia?

Max

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote...

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane.
It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But
for Mooron to deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this
country has to offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in
a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if
he enters the US
or not.

And now we have to take our shoes off. What's up with that?

Did they watch a 'Get Smart' rerun?

That, or they just enjoy the smell of sweaty feet.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Scotty wrote:

"Maxprop" wrote...

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane.
It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But
for Mooron to deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this
country has to offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in
a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if
he enters the US
or not.

And now we have to take our shoes off. What's up with that?

Did they watch a 'Get Smart' rerun?

Who's hotter... Agent 99 or Ema Peel?

Mrs. Peel, clearly. 99 looked and acted like someone's kid sister. Not
sexy.

Max

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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Sure, you go thru a scanner....do you need have your details
transmitted to US Custome when you board an aircraft so they can have
a full check done on you by the time you arrive?
Do you get fingerprinted on each arrival in the US?
Do you need to advise Immigration where you'll be spending your time
in the US?

US citizens aren't subjected to those things.

At least not yet.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Who's hotter... Agent 99 or Ema Peel?

Mrs. Peel, clearly. 99 looked and acted like someone's kid sister. Not
sexy.

I never saw what she saw in Steed.
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:ZlcLf.636$M52.364@edtnps89...

"Maxprop" wrote in message

1) You might take a job someday that requires travel in the US.

No I wouldn't... no need to.

Never is a very long time, Moroon.

2) One of your friends or relatives might be involved in an auto accident
in the US, and you'd be called upon to intercede on their behalf.

I wouldn't go there for that reason anymore than I would travel to Iraq
for the same. If any of my relatives are stupid enought to travel
someplace I wouldn't go.. they're on their own. Crate the carcass and ship
it back.... Pre-paid!

Your sensitivity is underwhelming. g

3). Scotty and I might come up there, hog tie you, put a bag over your
head, knock you unconscious, and allow you to find yourself regaining
consciousness in Laredo, TX, in the barrios.


I've been in Laredo..... and neither of you have the resource nor
capability to undertake such an overwhelming task. The pair of you would
end up drunk and passed out at the local bar waiting for me to finish my
16th beer.

What does being able to drink us under the table have to do with the effect
of a 40 oz. baseball bat applied to the occipital region of the skull?

Actually, you're right--neither of us has the *desire* to undertake such a
task. We'd just knock you out in Nova Scotia and feed you to the lobsters.
G

Max

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:n2lLf.122$Ui.12@edtnps84...
How many have you guys got so far???

We're tied with you guys at 19 currently, but we have 7 gold to your 5.

Canada nailed both Gold & Silver on Women's Speed Skating. Still... that
won't do much to lessen the embarrassment of our Men's Hockey Team.....
those bunch of fricken slackers will catch **** when they come home with
their tails between their legs. What a **** poor performance they had!

They'll never return to Canada, rather to the US to resume their careers
with the NHL. :-p

Max

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:


First: I'd love to sail to Cuba, and plan to do so someday. Second, I
am
able to sail to Cuba, provided I spend no money there, and have a sponsor
who lives there. Both points are easily dealt with, especially if one
doesn't mind jousting with the INS upon returning to the US. Third, I
can
always drive into Canada and take a flight to Havana.

Oh, OK - you define going thru all that crap as complying with
'reasonably be able to go'. I don't. Doubt many other people would
agree with you, either.

Do you see the word "reasonably" anywhere in my post? The word *reasonable*
never entered my mind as applied to our government's attitude toward Cuba.
Don't put words in my mouth.

Why don't you try reading back a couple of your own posts on this
thread? Clue - I put quotes around 'reasonably be able to go' because I
was quoting............................. you.

I think you've just shot your own position full of holes.

PDW

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In article , OzOne wrote:

On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:36:06 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:30:37 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)

How would you inspect every container entering the US?

Max


Eaxactly my point.
Every non US citizen is subject to the most rigorous scrutiny yet 95%
of containers are left untouched....homeland security is a sham.

Couldn't agree more.

The real joke here is, after you pass thru the scanners, you can buy
drinks in glass bottles on the inside. And they're worried about Swiss
Army knives and the like?

Security? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaa.

PDW

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 16:19:21 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


"jlr" one wrote in message
.net...
In the USA? How many times were you shot at? Did the muggers take all
your cash? Any rednecks kick your ass? Any racists ASSUALT YOUR WIFE?

Relax, JR. There is a general rule regarding those who love to rip on the
United States: they choose to visit here because of the substantial
quantity of resources and attractions we have to offer, and they
subsequently discover that this really is not an unsafe place to be,
provided you don't stupidly or deliberately put yourself in harm's way.
To
the contrary they discover that their vacations come off without a hitch,
are enjoyable, and often exceed their expectations.
Of course, You have a beautiful country with scenery and possibility
for adventure that is absolutely astounding.
Unfortunately you also have sewers like Los Angeles.

Of course they return home and resume their diatribe against the USA.
Their
like-minded friends just love to hear how awful and dangerous this country
is.
You need to get out more....

Then there's Mooron, who's worried about retinal scans and such. I think
he
must have something in his past that he doesn't want uncovered. g

Either that or he is happy where he is

That is certainly reasonable.

and unwilling to go through the
charade of US Customs and Security.

Get a life. We go through it every time we board a plane. It's a minor
inconvenience, if stupidly ineffective and annoying. But for Mooron to deny
himself of the wonderful places and opportunities this country has to offer,
strictly on principle or to avoid being inconvenienced in a minor way, is
penalizing only him. None of us give a rat's posterior if he enters the US
or not.

Ummm, Max, it's not penalizing Mooron at all. It's a big world out
there, lotta interesting places. Perhaps you should get out more. I
liked it when I lived in the USA, but if I never go back I won't really
care. I suspect Mooron feels much the same way.

This isn't meant as a putdown for the USA, BTW, unless you really do
think it's the centre of the universe and that everyone is desperate to
go there. I feel exactly the same way about Jakarta and Honiara, and to
a lesser extent, Sydney. All places where I've lived for quite some
time. BT, DT, got the shirts.....

You guys have every right to run any immigration regime you like. I
don't care. Japan has fingerprinted foreign residents for the last 30+
years, AFAIK, However, when places like Brazil start fingerprinting and
treating US visitors like you guys do to other foreign nationals, I
don't expect to hear any moaning about it. OK?

Not like it's going to make a difference to dedicated terrorists trying
to get into the USA. I used to live in Tucson, illegals crossing the
border didn't even make the news unless they died in the desert or
something.

PDW

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Sure, you go thru a scanner....do you need have your details
transmitted to US Custome when you board an aircraft so they can have
a full check done on you by the time you arrive?
Do you get fingerprinted on each arrival in the US?
Do you need to advise Immigration where you'll be spending your time
in the US?

US citizens aren't subjected to those things.

At least not yet.

You might be right. Everything today seems to be carried to extremes for
some reason. Between the media fear mongering and the political
finger-pointing, this home security thing will continue to expand to levels
we can't even imagine right now.

Max

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:36:06 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 07:30:37 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 04:27:19 GMT, "Maxprop"


Yes, it's a nice country, but still the
customs/immigration is a
charade......just ask how many containers entering the US
are
inspected..


I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)

How would you inspect every container entering the US?

Max


Eaxactly my point.
Every non US citizen is subject to the most rigorous scrutiny yet 95%
of containers are left untouched....homeland security is a sham.

Let me play the devil's advocate here for a moment: So we've established
that examining incoming containers is not feasible. For that reason, is it
reasonable to simply ignore all other aspects of homeland security that ARE
feasible, such as clearing individuals for entry?

Max

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:37:49 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


Nope....
Homeland security is just smoke, mirrors and inconvenience.

Maybe that's all it takes to prevent another attack on the order of
9/11/01.

Bwaaahahhahahhahahhahhahaaaa!
You've swallowed that line?

What line? HS doesn't claim to be smoke and mirrors. That's your take, not
theirs. And the evidence supports HS, not you. The US has been free of
terrorist attack since HS instituted its programs. HS may have absolutely
nothing to do with that, but you can't prove it doesn't. So your argument
is invalid.

You're an ex-cop. How would you deal with terrorism in Australia?

Heh heh, there is none.
Maybe if Little Johnnie Howard keeps Americanising us...we will.

As I expected--you won't answer the question. Criticism without alternative
suggestions is the mark of a chronic complainer, not a problem solver. Save
your breath--we have plenty of those here already.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Who's hotter... Agent 99 or Ema Peel?

Mrs. Peel, clearly. 99 looked and acted like someone's kid sister. Not
sexy.

I never saw what she saw in Steed.

Nor I. My wife and most of her friends think Sean Connery is hotter now as
an old gray fart than he was as a 30+ year old in the 007 movies. Go
figure.

Max

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"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..


Ummm, Max, it's not penalizing Mooron at all. It's a big world out
there, lotta interesting places.

Certainly, but the US sits on his nearby southern border. Jakarta doesn't.
I enter Canada from two to five times per year, and its disappointing that
the border constraints are in place, but that won't stop me. Petty
bureaucracies exist in nearly every place in the world, and unless you
choose to become a self-isolationist you simply deal with them and go about
your business.

But this really has nothing to do with Moroon's inconvenience or his
principles. He loves to grind the anti-US axe with those of us here from
the US. So does Ozzy. It seems to be their cyber recreational pleasure of
late. And we'd be remiss if we didn't call them on it--hell, they'd find no
pleasure at all in a one-sided diatribe with no opposition. So in my own
way I'm making it possible for you, Moroon and Ozzy to enjoy your time on
ASA. You can thank me now or later.

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

I believe it's up to 5% now.

Scotty


Now there's security in action.....:-)

How would you inspect every container entering the US?


When you say inspected, do you understand that they don't
actually open them up and check inside? Mostly they run an
x-ray machine around the container. A very slow process as
it's done now.
At least on the East Coast, they set a dozen or so
containers on the ground, in line, then drive the x-ray
machine over them, slowly. A costly , time consuming
process.
I don't know why they don't have a drive thru type machine.

Scotty

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

You're an ex-cop. How would you deal with terrorism in
Australia?


He'd remove all guns from citizens.

SV

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"Maxprop" wrote ...
Mrs. Peel, clearly. 99 looked and acted like someone's
kid sister. Not
sexy.


My kid sister was sexy.

SV

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...
What does being able to drink us under the table have to
do with the effect
of a 40 oz. baseball bat applied to the occipital region
of the skull?


It's the things he'd do to us under that table that worry
me. shudder

Scotty

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"Maxprop" wrote in message

They'll never return to Canada, rather to the US to resume their careers
with the NHL. :-p

It's livin' in the USA... what made them Fat & Lazy!

Ship'em back to Canada for a spell... we'll Beat the Hockey back into'em!

Fricken Slackers!!!

CM

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OzOne wrote in message
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 01:47:35 GMT, "Maxprop"

scribbled thusly:


"Peter Wiley" wrote in
message
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Ummm, Max, it's not penalizing Mooron at all. It's a
big world out
there, lotta interesting places.

Certainly, but the US sits on his nearby southern border.
Jakarta doesn't.
I enter Canada from two to five times per year, and its
disappointing that
the border constraints are in place, but that won't stop
me. Petty
bureaucracies exist in nearly every place in the world,
and unless you
choose to become a self-isolationist you simply deal with
them and go about
your business.

But this really has nothing to do with Moroon's
inconvenience or his
principles. He loves to grind the anti-US axe with those
of us here from
the US. So does Ozzy. It seems to be their cyber
recreational pleasure of
late. And we'd be remiss if we didn't call them on
it--hell, they'd find no
pleasure at all in a one-sided diatribe with no
opposition. So in my own
way I'm making it possible for you, Moroon and Ozzy to
enjoy your time on
ASA. You can thank me now or later.

Max


Sensitive little sucker!

Don't be confused, I am and never have been anti
American..though I
tended toward that when the American people re elected the
guy who has
put the US in a position from which it is unlikely to
recover.

I am, and have been since Bush was elected, firmly anti US
Govt.


As are most 'Mericans.

Scotty

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OzOne wrote in


He'd remove all guns from citizens.

SV

Too late now....heck, even Cheney shoots his friends.


Only because he was drunk.

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In article t,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Sure, you go thru a scanner....do you need have your details
transmitted to US Custome when you board an aircraft so they can have
a full check done on you by the time you arrive?
Do you get fingerprinted on each arrival in the US?
Do you need to advise Immigration where you'll be spending your time
in the US?

US citizens aren't subjected to those things.

At least not yet.

You might be right. Everything today seems to be carried to extremes for
some reason. Between the media fear mongering and the political
finger-pointing, this home security thing will continue to expand to levels
we can't even imagine right now.


Just remember, if it saves 1 life, it's worth it.

PDW

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OzOne wrote in message
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:23:52 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in


He'd remove all guns from citizens.

SV

Too late now....heck, even Cheney shoots his friends.


Only because he was drunk.

That's not a prerequisite for shooting someone?


No, but it's a good excuse.

SV

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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Certainly, but the US sits on his nearby southern border. Jakarta
doesn't. I enter Canada from two to five times per year, and its
disappointing that the border constraints are in place, but that won't
stop me. Petty bureaucracies exist in nearly every place in the world,
and unless you choose to become a self-isolationist you simply deal with
them and go about your business.

Seems to me you assume that because you find Canada worth visiting
repeatitly... I should feel the same way about the USA. I don't..... and
you shouldn't take that personally... get all insulted, and claim I'm anti
American.


But this really has nothing to do with Moroon's inconvenience or his
principles. He loves to grind the anti-US axe with those of us here from
the US. So does Ozzy. It seems to be their cyber recreational pleasure
of late. And we'd be remiss if we didn't call them on it--hell, they'd
find no pleasure at all in a one-sided diatribe with no opposition. So in
my own way I'm making it possible for you, Moroon and Ozzy to enjoy your
time on ASA. You can thank me now or later.

Max.... if you consider getting fingerprinted merely an inconvenience... we
just have to agree to disagree. I can supply security documentation and
references... but this is not adequate to satisfy the US Customs. If I view
their requirements as beyond that which I am willing to provide.... how can
you state that as anti American? Does my personal decision offend your
national pride? What makes you think I am short changing myself because I
refuse to comply with a ridiculous request? I wouldn't travel to any country
requiring that level of infringement on my privacy and freedoms.

CM