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Joe February 19th 06 12:43 AM

Hi Katy
 
How are you taking to living aboard?
Ya like it better than living on dirt........ right?

Joe


katy February 19th 06 12:53 AM

Hi Katy
 
Joe wrote:
How are you taking to living aboard?
Ya like it better than living on dirt........ right?

Joe

Uh...where have you been for the past month? You're way behind the
scenethere, Joe.

Joe February 19th 06 12:57 AM

Hi Katy
 
I musta missed something......

What?


katy February 19th 06 01:56 AM

Hi Katy
 
OzOne wrote:
On 18 Feb 2006 16:57:23 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


I musta missed something......

What?


Heh heh....That's just waaaay to easy!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Yep...

katy February 19th 06 01:57 AM

Hi Katy
 
Joe wrote:
I musta missed something......

What?

There's always Goggle...

Joe February 19th 06 03:01 AM

Hi Katy
 
Sooo..you're gonna be that way huh?

I was just asking to be nice.

Sorry if I google "Katy's life aboard" I only get my question.. and a
couple of smart ass remark! :0)

Joe


Bob Crantz February 19th 06 03:45 AM

Hi Katy
 
Joe,

The cabin roof wasn't high enough for the beehive.

Amen!

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sooo..you're gonna be that way huh?

I was just asking to be nice.

Sorry if I google "Katy's life aboard" I only get my question.. and a
couple of smart ass remark! :0)

Joe




Joe February 19th 06 02:32 PM

Hi Katy
 
that explains it.

joe


katy February 20th 06 12:08 AM

Hi Katy
 
Joe wrote:
Sooo..you're gonna be that way huh?

I was just asking to be nice.

Sorry if I google "Katy's life aboard" I only get my question.. and a
couple of smart ass remark! :0)

Joe

Mr Sails took a teaching position in Isle of Wight County, VA and we
prefer to keep the boat down in Pamlico Sound...hence..we have moved
into an apartment for the time being...

Joe February 20th 06 01:42 PM

Hi Katy
 
Oh...well you gotta do what you gotta do. I was starting to wonder when
you told that guy living together in a small area can amplify problems.
Congrats to Mr Sails on the new gig, teachers get lots of time off and
I'm sure you will get in ten times the sailing this summer than the
fake captain Rob.

Joe


Seahag February 21st 06 03:39 PM

Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:
Joe wrote:
Oh...well you gotta do what you gotta do. I was starting
to wonder when
you told that guy living together in a small area can
amplify problems.
Congrats to Mr Sails on the new gig, teachers get lots of
time off and
I'm sure you will get in ten times the sailing this
summer than the
fake captain Rob.

Joe

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot
of time off, and neither do most other teachers...he will
be spending most of this summer back in school picking up
the necessary 6 credit hours to re-certify. He is at the
school 9 hours, comes home and eats dinner and spends the
evening correcting papers or doing research for upcoming
labs. And the space we're living in isn't that much larger
than the boat!


How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?

Seahag



katy February 21st 06 07:38 PM

Hi Katy
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Joe wrote:

Oh...well you gotta do what you gotta do. I was starting
to wonder when
you told that guy living together in a small area can
amplify problems.
Congrats to Mr Sails on the new gig, teachers get lots of
time off and
I'm sure you will get in ten times the sailing this
summer than the
fake captain Rob.

Joe


Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot
of time off, and neither do most other teachers...he will
be spending most of this summer back in school picking up
the necessary 6 credit hours to re-certify. He is at the
school 9 hours, comes home and eats dinner and spends the
evening correcting papers or doing research for upcoming
labs. And the space we're living in isn't that much larger
than the boat!



How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?

Seahag


Yeah, the kids made it down this past weekend with a load of stuff
so we now have a table with legs, 2 chairs, a bedroom suite, and the
sofa bed from the fmaily room...still aparce but livable....i even
hung a picture...

Seahag February 22nd 06 01:00 AM

Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?

Yeah, the kids made it down this past weekend with a load
of stuff so we now have a table with legs, 2 chairs, a
bedroom suite, and the sofa bed from the fmaily
room...still aparce but livable....i even hung a
picture...


I hope it's hung well:^

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.

Seahag



katy February 22nd 06 02:58 AM

Hi Katy
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?


Yeah, the kids made it down this past weekend with a load
of stuff so we now have a table with legs, 2 chairs, a
bedroom suite, and the sofa bed from the fmaily
room...still aparce but livable....i even hung a
picture...



I hope it's hung well:^

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.

Seahag


Yeah, I like that but it doesn't go with my couch....

Seahag February 22nd 06 03:59 PM

Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?


Yeah, the kids made it down this past weekend with a load
of stuff so we now have a table with legs, 2 chairs, a
bedroom suite, and the sofa bed from the fmaily
room...still aparce but livable....i even hung a
picture...



I hope it's hung well:^

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.

Seahag


Yeah, I like that but it doesn't go with my couch....


I'm thinking about re-doing the settees in brown velvet.
I'll need some more plants tho.

Seahag



katy February 22nd 06 05:43 PM

Hi Katy
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

Seahag wrote:

"katy" wrote:


Seahag wrote:


How are the chairs? Do you have a table with legs now?


Yeah, the kids made it down this past weekend with a load
of stuff so we now have a table with legs, 2 chairs, a
bedroom suite, and the sofa bed from the fmaily
room...still aparce but livable....i even hung a
picture...


I hope it's hung well:^

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.

Seahag



Yeah, I like that but it doesn't go with my couch....



I'm thinking about re-doing the settees in brown velvet.
I'll need some more plants tho.

Seahag


Dust magnets.....you'll spend the rest of your life vacuuming them...

DSK February 26th 06 01:36 PM

Hi Katy
 
Seahag wrote:
This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.


It's a nice painting, but there aren't any boats in it.

DSK


katy February 26th 06 06:13 PM

Hi Katy
 
DSK wrote:
Seahag wrote:

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.


It's a nice painting, but there aren't any boats in it.

DSK


Take a good look at her nose....she be a "brown paper bag" woman...

Seahag February 27th 06 12:38 AM

Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:
DSK wrote:
Seahag wrote:

This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.


It's a nice painting, but there aren't any boats in it.

DSK


Take a good look at her nose....she be a "brown paper bag"
woman...


I thought we all agreed not to criticize people's spouses?!

Seahag



katy February 27th 06 01:01 PM

Hi Katy
 
Seahag wrote:
"katy" wrote:

DSK wrote:

Seahag wrote:


This is my favorite painting:

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth...seau.dream.jpg

The more I look at it the more I like it.


It's a nice painting, but there aren't any boats in it.

DSK


Take a good look at her nose....she be a "brown paper bag"
woman...



I thought we all agreed not to criticize people's spouses?!

Seahag


That's a portrait of you????

Seahag February 27th 06 09:13 PM

Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:


I thought we all agreed not to criticize people's
spouses?!

Seahag


That's a portrait of you????


Nar, it's Rousseau's old lady, sheesh.

Seahag



Albert Frankenstein March 3rd 06 02:02 PM

Hi Katy
 
Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time
off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look how
I turned out.

--
Albert Frankenstein

Annoy a liberal: Work. Succeed. Be happy.



"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
Oh...well you gotta do what you gotta do. I was starting to wonder when
you told that guy living together in a small area can amplify problems.
Congrats to Mr Sails on the new gig, teachers get lots of time off and
I'm sure you will get in ten times the sailing this summer than the
fake captain Rob.

Joe

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time off,
and neither do most other teachers...he will be spending most of this
summer back in school picking up the necessary 6 credit hours to
re-certify. He is at the school 9 hours, comes home and eats dinner and
spends the evening correcting papers or doing research for upcoming labs.
And the space we're living in isn't that much larger than the boat!




Martin Baxter March 3rd 06 02:16 PM

Hi Katy
 
Albert Frankenstein wrote:

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time

off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.


Certainly truths up here in Ontario, the Ontario Teachers Federation
Pension fund is one of the largest in North America with assets of
around $90 billion. Pay is great, hours are great, a really powerful
union.

You have to live with universal health care, which means if you're not
really sick, i.e. about to die, you'll most likely wait a while to get
something done.

Oh, and it's frozen about 6 monthsof the year up here. Ontario, 6 months
of good snowmobiling, 6 months of poor snowmobiling.

Cheers
Marty

katy March 3rd 06 02:27 PM

Hi Katy
 
Albert Frankenstein wrote:
Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time


off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look how
I turned out.

Well, I'm sorry you went to school in such a poor place...Mr. Sails
does not get a lot of time off, he works very hard, and he does not
amke much money...it's public record...google VA's teacher pay
schedule for a teacher with 6 years experience and a Master's Degree
and then compare it to other occupations that require a Master's...

katy March 3rd 06 03:25 PM

Hi Katy
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Albert Frankenstein wrote:

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time


off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.



Certainly truths up here in Ontario, the Ontario Teachers Federation
Pension fund is one of the largest in North America with assets of
around $90 billion. Pay is great, hours are great, a really powerful
union.

You have to live with universal health care, which means if you're not
really sick, i.e. about to die, you'll most likely wait a while to get
something done.

Oh, and it's frozen about 6 monthsof the year up here. Ontario, 6 months
of good snowmobiling, 6 months of poor snowmobiling.

Cheers
Marty


Frankenstein comes from a state with a teacher's union, which is not
the case for most of the US...teachers are well paid inisloated
places in the US but for the most part, they are not. There is a
general misconception that teaching is easy. It is not. You are
dealing with children whose parents don't show up for conferences
but are the first to complain about a bad grade. last week, Mr
Sails needed to speak to a parent about one of his students. All
three phone numbers provided to the school office were either
non-working or went unanswered. What if that child was in an
accidnet??? Finally, after the vice principal paid a visit to the
home, a confernece was set up with the guidance office, the cive
principal, and the student (who happens to be very bright but has
some unique behavior probelms). They didn't show, didn't srnd a
note, and the kid was subsequently suspended (which wouldn't ahve
happened if the parents had shown up). This is not an isolated
incident. And the school is not a poor inner city school. In his
Environmental Science class, Mr Sails has resorted to Robert's Rules
of Order (juniors and seniors..have the maturity to understand) for
open discussion and debate rules (no debate class or team at the
school) for argiments. This has stemmed attempts to make discussion
free-for-alls and the kids test grades improved dramatically once he
changed to that system. the kids complain, but the results are
there to prove that a disciplined environment makes for a better
learning platform. He can't do that in his Earth Science
classrooms. he has too many kids with aftive learning disabilities.
He has 2 kids with Asperger's, 2 girls with babies at home who are
more concerned with that than school, and several with things like
CP and other mobility problems. He has a visually impaired child
and a deaf child in one class. Mainstreaming all these kids with
special needs makes it very difficult for the average kids in school
to get an education. Aides are forever interripting, or doing their
kids' work for them rather than assisting. No wonder so many people
burn out. No wonder there is a teacher shortage over most of the US.

Capt. JG March 3rd 06 07:58 PM

Hi Katy
 
I don't know about other states, and I'm not that plugged into the teaching
scene here in California. I believe there's a union, but who knows, but do I
have a couple of friends who teach in Grade School. They don't get much
money for the large number of students they deal with every day. The schools
(at least the ones where they teach) go all year. They get some time off,
but not that much. And, whatever time off they get is mitigated by having to
stay late, get there early, grade homework in the evening and on weekends,
and use their own money and time to get all the extras that help make it
worthwhile for their young students. They work exceedingly hard. A simple
google search will reveal that.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Albert Frankenstein wrote:
Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time


off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look
how I turned out.

Well, I'm sorry you went to school in such a poor place...Mr. Sails does
not get a lot of time off, he works very hard, and he does not amke much
money...it's public record...google VA's teacher pay schedule for a
teacher with 6 years experience and a Master's Degree and then compare it
to other occupations that require a Master's...




katy March 3rd 06 08:22 PM

Hi Katy
 
Capt. JG wrote:
I don't know about other states, and I'm not that plugged into the teaching
scene here in California. I believe there's a union, but who knows, but do I
have a couple of friends who teach in Grade School. They don't get much
money for the large number of students they deal with every day. The schools
(at least the ones where they teach) go all year. They get some time off,
but not that much. And, whatever time off they get is mitigated by having to
stay late, get there early, grade homework in the evening and on weekends,
and use their own money and time to get all the extras that help make it
worthwhile for their young students. They work exceedingly hard. A simple
google search will reveal that.


Mr SaIls buys new pencils every week...he ahd to buy calculators
(which, of course, disappear)...fortunately our rock collection,
acquired over years of traveling, is under lock and key in a display
case...last school he was at didn't have meter sticks and he was
expected to teach the metric system! He had to convert regular yard
sticks!

Scotty March 3rd 06 11:36 PM

Hi Katy
 

"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.



I agree!

Scotty



katy March 4th 06 12:05 AM

Hi Katy
 
OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:36:12 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.



I agree!

Scotty



Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30 and get 12 weeks paid annual leave
plus an excellent super policy and a 4% annual increment and long
service leave after 7 years of this tough slog.

They complain that they work too hard, but have never lived in the
real world.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Gee, maybe we should move to OZ....

Scotty March 4th 06 02:12 PM

Hi Katy
 
OzOne wrote

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30 and get 12 weeks paid

annual leave
plus an excellent super policy and a 4% annual increment

and long
service leave after 7 years of this tough slog.

They complain that they work too hard, but have never

lived in the
real world.



Teachers in Oz have a monumental task , much more so than a
USA teacher.

SBV





Scotty March 4th 06 02:17 PM

Hi Katy
 

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:36:12 -0500, "Scotty"


scribbled thusly:


"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.



I agree!

Scotty


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30


Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV





Capt. JG March 4th 06 06:13 PM

Hi Katy
 
Soctty, they're drunk by 2 pm.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:36:12 -0500, "Scotty"


scribbled thusly:


"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.


I agree!

Scotty


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30


Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV







Scotty March 5th 06 02:22 PM

Hi Katy
 

OzOne wrote in message
...
Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV


They do, sometimes take papers home, but they also get one
Monday/month off as student free days.
After school meetings are rare unless you are one of the

senior
teachers in which case you are paid substantially more.
Plan lessons at home?
Why? They only teach 4.5 to 5 hrs each day, plenty of time

for lesson
planning during school hours, and after the first year,

they just dish
up the same lessons as last year.


Sounds like Oz teachers are coasting through it, showing up
and just going through the motions. No wonder your country
is still so far behind the US.

Scotty



katy March 5th 06 02:38 PM

Hi Katy
 
OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 09:17:23 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:

Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30


Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV



They do, sometimes take papers home, but they also get one
Monday/month off as student free days.
After school meetings are rare unless you are one of the senior
teachers in which case you are paid substantially more.
Plan lessons at home?
Why? They only teach 4.5 to 5 hrs each day, plenty of time for lesson
planning during school hours, and after the first year, they just dish
up the same lessons as last year.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Oz, you haven't got a clue....better climb back into the crackerbox
house...

Capt. JG March 5th 06 06:38 PM

Hi Katy
 
Students should not be free.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 09:17:23 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30


Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV


They do, sometimes take papers home, but they also get one
Monday/month off as student free days.
After school meetings are rare unless you are one of the senior
teachers in which case you are paid substantially more.
Plan lessons at home?
Why? They only teach 4.5 to 5 hrs each day, plenty of time for lesson
planning during school hours, and after the first year, they just dish
up the same lessons as last year.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scotty March 5th 06 07:26 PM

Hi Katy
 
You have to pay for yours?

S
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Students should not be free.





Capt. JG March 5th 06 09:59 PM

Hi Katy
 
Actually, they pay me. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
You have to pay for yours?

S
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Students should not be free.







Peter Wiley March 5th 06 10:28 PM

Hi Katy
 
In article , Scotty
wrote:

OzOne wrote

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30 and get 12 weeks paid

annual leave
plus an excellent super policy and a 4% annual increment

and long
service leave after 7 years of this tough slog.

They complain that they work too hard, but have never

lived in the
real world.



Teachers in Oz have a monumental task , much more so than a
USA teacher.


Mine certainly did, but once I learnt to ignore them and use a library,
I did ok.

PDW

Peter Wiley March 5th 06 10:30 PM

Hi Katy
 
In article , katy
wrote:

OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 09:17:23 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:

Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30

Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV



They do, sometimes take papers home, but they also get one
Monday/month off as student free days.
After school meetings are rare unless you are one of the senior
teachers in which case you are paid substantially more.
Plan lessons at home?
Why? They only teach 4.5 to 5 hrs each day, plenty of time for lesson
planning during school hours, and after the first year, they just dish
up the same lessons as last year.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Oz, you haven't got a clue....better climb back into the crackerbox
house...


Sorry, Katy, Oz is broadly correct in his observations. My sister is a
high school teacher.

PDW

katy March 6th 06 02:01 PM

Hi Katy
 
OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:33:43 +1100, OzOne scribbled thusly:


On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 22:30:25 +0000, Peter Wiley
scribbled thusly:


In article , katy
wrote:


OzOne wrote:

On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 09:17:23 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30

Wha, they don't ever take papers home?
Never have after school conferences?
Plan lessons at home?

SBV



They do, sometimes take papers home, but they also get one
Monday/month off as student free days.
After school meetings are rare unless you are one of the senior
teachers in which case you are paid substantially more.
Plan lessons at home?
Why? They only teach 4.5 to 5 hrs each day, plenty of time for lesson
planning during school hours, and after the first year, they just dish
up the same lessons as last year.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Oz, you haven't got a clue....better climb back into the crackerbox
house...

Sorry, Katy, Oz is broadly correct in his observations. My sister is a
high school teacher.

PDW


Thanks Peter,
I have a dozen friends who are teachers of one type or another and
indeed have taught myself.
A couple are senior head teachers and put in an extra hour or so a day
averaged out.
The others....well, you don't want to be standing in front of the
carpark gates 10 minutes after the bell rings!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Oh, I didn't mention that I will be teaching part time next year.
Why?
Because I actually enjoy emparting the wisdom I've learned in my 55
years....and $55/hr base rate (I will be doing some evening classes at
a far higher rate) + super and allowances and a guaranteed 20 hrs of
which about 15 will be face to face.
IOW, I'll be pocketing over $1000/ week in time that I'd be relaxing
with a book or in front of the TV......or worse still chatting here!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Only tecahers here who would make 1K/week would be those with 20
years into the system, working full-time, with advanced degres.


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