Hi Katy
 

"katy" wrote:


I thought we all agreed not to criticize people's
spouses?!

Seahag


That's a portrait of you????

Nar, it's Rousseau's old lady, sheesh.

Seahag

Hi Katy
 

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time
off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look how
I turned out.

--
Albert Frankenstein

Annoy a liberal: Work. Succeed. Be happy.



"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
Oh...well you gotta do what you gotta do. I was starting to wonder when
you told that guy living together in a small area can amplify problems.
Congrats to Mr Sails on the new gig, teachers get lots of time off and
I'm sure you will get in ten times the sailing this summer than the
fake captain Rob.

Joe

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time off,
and neither do most other teachers...he will be spending most of this
summer back in school picking up the necessary 6 credit hours to
re-certify. He is at the school 9 hours, comes home and eats dinner and
spends the evening correcting papers or doing research for upcoming labs.
And the space we're living in isn't that much larger than the boat!

Hi Katy
 

Albert Frankenstein wrote:

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time
off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

Certainly truths up here in Ontario, the Ontario Teachers Federation
Pension fund is one of the largest in North America with assets of
around $90 billion. Pay is great, hours are great, a really powerful
union.

You have to live with universal health care, which means if you're not
really sick, i.e. about to die, you'll most likely wait a while to get
something done.

Oh, and it's frozen about 6 monthsof the year up here. Ontario, 6 months
of good snowmobiling, 6 months of poor snowmobiling.

Cheers
Marty

Hi Katy
 

Albert Frankenstein wrote:
Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time

off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look how
I turned out.

Well, I'm sorry you went to school in such a poor place...Mr. Sails
does not get a lot of time off, he works very hard, and he does not
amke much money...it's public record...google VA's teacher pay
schedule for a teacher with 6 years experience and a Master's Degree
and then compare it to other occupations that require a Master's...

Hi Katy
 

Martin Baxter wrote:
Albert Frankenstein wrote:

Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time

off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.


Certainly truths up here in Ontario, the Ontario Teachers Federation
Pension fund is one of the largest in North America with assets of
around $90 billion. Pay is great, hours are great, a really powerful
union.

You have to live with universal health care, which means if you're not
really sick, i.e. about to die, you'll most likely wait a while to get
something done.

Oh, and it's frozen about 6 monthsof the year up here. Ontario, 6 months
of good snowmobiling, 6 months of poor snowmobiling.

Cheers
Marty

Frankenstein comes from a state with a teacher's union, which is not
the case for most of the US...teachers are well paid inisloated
places in the US but for the most part, they are not. There is a
general misconception that teaching is easy. It is not. You are
dealing with children whose parents don't show up for conferences
but are the first to complain about a bad grade. last week, Mr
Sails needed to speak to a parent about one of his students. All
three phone numbers provided to the school office were either
non-working or went unanswered. What if that child was in an
accidnet??? Finally, after the vice principal paid a visit to the
home, a confernece was set up with the guidance office, the cive
principal, and the student (who happens to be very bright but has
some unique behavior probelms). They didn't show, didn't srnd a
note, and the kid was subsequently suspended (which wouldn't ahve
happened if the parents had shown up). This is not an isolated
incident. And the school is not a poor inner city school. In his
Environmental Science class, Mr Sails has resorted to Robert's Rules
of Order (juniors and seniors..have the maturity to understand) for
open discussion and debate rules (no debate class or team at the
school) for argiments. This has stemmed attempts to make discussion
free-for-alls and the kids test grades improved dramatically once he
changed to that system. the kids complain, but the results are
there to prove that a disciplined environment makes for a better
learning platform. He can't do that in his Earth Science
classrooms. he has too many kids with aftive learning disabilities.
He has 2 kids with Asperger's, 2 girls with babies at home who are
more concerned with that than school, and several with things like
CP and other mobility problems. He has a visually impaired child
and a deaf child in one class. Mainstreaming all these kids with
special needs makes it very difficult for the average kids in school
to get an education. Aides are forever interripting, or doing their
kids' work for them rather than assisting. No wonder so many people
burn out. No wonder there is a teacher shortage over most of the US.

Hi Katy
 

I don't know about other states, and I'm not that plugged into the teaching
scene here in California. I believe there's a union, but who knows, but do I
have a couple of friends who teach in Grade School. They don't get much
money for the large number of students they deal with every day. The schools
(at least the ones where they teach) go all year. They get some time off,
but not that much. And, whatever time off they get is mitigated by having to
stay late, get there early, grade homework in the evening and on weekends,
and use their own money and time to get all the extras that help make it
worthwhile for their young students. They work exceedingly hard. A simple
google search will reveal that.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Albert Frankenstein wrote:
Misconception about teaching...Mr Sails does not get a lot of time

off, and neither do most other teachers..

Truths:

1) Teachers get a lot of time off
2) Teachers make a lot of money
3) Teachers don't work that hard.

I know this to be true because I had teachers when I was young, and look
how I turned out.

Well, I'm sorry you went to school in such a poor place...Mr. Sails does
not get a lot of time off, he works very hard, and he does not amke much
money...it's public record...google VA's teacher pay schedule for a
teacher with 6 years experience and a Master's Degree and then compare it
to other occupations that require a Master's...

Hi Katy
 

Capt. JG wrote:
I don't know about other states, and I'm not that plugged into the teaching
scene here in California. I believe there's a union, but who knows, but do I
have a couple of friends who teach in Grade School. They don't get much
money for the large number of students they deal with every day. The schools
(at least the ones where they teach) go all year. They get some time off,
but not that much. And, whatever time off they get is mitigated by having to
stay late, get there early, grade homework in the evening and on weekends,
and use their own money and time to get all the extras that help make it
worthwhile for their young students. They work exceedingly hard. A simple
google search will reveal that.


Mr SaIls buys new pencils every week...he ahd to buy calculators
(which, of course, disappear)...fortunately our rock collection,
acquired over years of traveling, is under lock and key in a display
case...last school he was at didn't have meter sticks and he was
expected to teach the metric system! He had to convert regular yard
sticks!

Hi Katy
 

"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.


I agree!

Scotty

Hi Katy
 

OzOne wrote:
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:36:12 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:


"Albert Frankenstein" wrote

Truths:

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.


I agree!

Scotty



Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30 and get 12 weeks paid annual leave
plus an excellent super policy and a 4% annual increment and long
service leave after 7 years of this tough slog.

They complain that they work too hard, but have never lived in the
real world.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gee, maybe we should move to OZ....

Hi Katy
 

OzOne wrote

1) Teachers don't get enough time off
2) Teachers *SHOULD* make a lot of money
3) Teachers do work too hard.

Over here, teachers work 9 - 3.30 and get 12 weeks paid
annual leave
plus an excellent super policy and a 4% annual increment
and long
service leave after 7 years of this tough slog.

They complain that they work too hard, but have never
lived in the
real world.


Teachers in Oz have a monumental task , much more so than a
USA teacher.

SBV