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Dumbest statement of the year....so far
"And if you knew anything about driving you might
know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed." |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
You really shouldn't give out dangerous advice just to troll. Stopping
distances are typcially shorter in deep snow. A plowed street leaves snow over ice in most conditions.. RB 35s5 NY |
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-- "Swab Rob" wrote I really shouldn't give out dangerous advice just to troll. Stopping distances are typcially shorter in deep snow. Right, for a snowmobile. S |
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distances are typcially shorter in deep snow.
Right, for a snowmobile. Right, then we agree. A snowmobile (or an ice boat) on ice is actually planning on a thin film of water. Same for a SUV on a plowed street. Even with ABS, the wheel slips and stutters and stopping distances are longer. In fact, stopping distances can be longer in the rain than in heavy snow. Snow offers continued resistance when stopping and also impedes steering input due to "tracking" by the rear wheels. This is basic driving info. I guess you're no professional. Once again you're dead wrong, but Mooron's comment should have alerted you. Yous till like your boat, right???!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!! RB 35s5 NY |
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The statement is absolutely correct. A plowed street can be worse than
unplowed, especially if there is packed ice underneath. I have to agree with RB. Amen! "Scotty" wrote in message ... "And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed." |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message The statement is absolutely correct. A plowed street can be worse than unplowed, especially if there is packed ice underneath. I have to agree with RB. Now Bob.... don't bait Bobsprit like that. We both know that if there is ice under a snowfall... it's an Ice Road.... and the three requirements are to be able to make progress, to be able to direct progress and to be able to halt progress. Certainly if your "SUV" has a 12" clearance and you drive into 24" of snow.... stopping will not be an issue..... progress and direction will come to an abrupt halt. If the same vehicle encounters a low traction area... a simple reduction of speed will allow all three factors to be retained and safely make directed progress CM |
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Certainly if your "SUV" has a 12" clearance and you drive into 24" of
snow.... stopping will not be an issue..... progress and direction will come to an abrupt halt. If the same vehicle encounters a low traction area... a simple reduction of speed will allow all three factors to be retained and safely make directed progress And this is where you were baited and snared, Mooron. And then Scotty bit your tail and both of you were hauled aboard. Read my original statement again. Bottom line: A plowed road can be worse than 9 inches of snow, especially for an SUV. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Read my original statement again. Bottom line: A plowed road can be worse than 9 inches of snow, especially for an SUV. Not so fast there Bobsprit..... here's what you said.." And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed." Your option on an unplowed street is coming to a stop.... that's not driving Bobsprit.. that's *parking*..... now if you had even a modicum of knowledge in vehicle control on snow and ice.... you never would have made that statement. CM- |
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Your option on an unplowed street is coming to a stop.... that's not
driving Bobsprit.. that's *parking*..... No, it's not parking. It's also slowing down, which is part of driving. You're not just on the hook, you've eaten the rod. Give it up. You're getting desperate and everyone can tell. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Your option on an unplowed street is coming to a stop.... that's not driving Bobsprit.. that's *parking*..... No, it's not parking. It's also slowing down, which is part of driving. You're not just on the hook, you've eaten the rod. Give it up. You're getting desperate and everyone can tell. GOOD GRIEF......... are you slow off the mark or is this subject beyond your comprehension skills? CM |
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GOOD GRIEF......... are you slow off the mark or is this subject
beyond your comprehension skills? Dude, you just said "stopping is parking." End of the road for you. Desperate is putting it in a friendly way so you can just slink away. You lost...again. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... GOOD GRIEF......... are you slow off the mark or is this subject beyond your comprehension skills? Dude, you just said "stopping is parking." End of the road for you. Desperate is putting it in a friendly way so you can just slink away. You lost...again. It must be the car you drive.... it stops so often for no reason you consider it driving???? CM |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:M2nIf.90$Nr5.79@clgrps13... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message Read my original statement again. Bottom line: A plowed road can be worse than 9 inches of snow, especially for an SUV. He's lying again. Here's the original post; No mention of 9''. No mention of SUV. ..No mention of ice. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. .. Wow, a real explorer you are, driving on the plowed streets of NYC. Nothing was plowed in Kew Gardens this morning and only part of Forest Hills. And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. Of course you don't know and you have a Kia!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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-- "Swab Rob" stupidly wrote Right, then we agree. A snowmobile (or an ice boat) on ice is actually planning on a thin film of water. Same for a SUV on a plowed street. NYC must have some really screwed up plows! |
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Still funny!
'' And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' |
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Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows...
"Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
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Then who wrote this? '' And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' -- "Swab Rob" wrote crap, crap, and more crap |
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Hey, I get a point for the assist!
Amen! "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows... "Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
Both of you have after school detention !
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message k.net... Hey, I get a point for the assist! Amen! "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. .. Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows... "Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
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'' And if you knew anything about driving you might know
that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' I wrote that AFTER I mentioned in another post about driving the Tribeca, which IS an SUV. And it says CAN be worse, which of course it can. BUSTED again, Scotty Potty...and you lied as well. RB 35s5 NY |
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-- "Swab Rob" wrote ... '' And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' I wrote that Ah HA !!!! BUSTED !!!!!!!!!!! |
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In the short term plowed roads can be more dangerous as it may expose the
packed down ice layer at the bottom. However, once the ice layer is exposed, it begins to melt and, over the longer term, the plowed road is much safer. Snow tires don't work on ice. They need snow for the tread to grab. The snow can have some adhesion to ice. So, in some cases unplowed roads offer more traction. Amen! "Scotty" wrote in message ... Both of you have after school detention ! "Bob Crantz" wrote in message k.net... Hey, I get a point for the assist! Amen! "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. . Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows... "Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
Stop it Bob, you're killing me.
Scotty, ROTFLMAO "Bob Crantz" wrote in message .net... In the short term plowed roads can be more dangerous as it may expose the packed down ice layer at the bottom. However, once the ice layer is exposed, it begins to melt and, over the longer term, the plowed road is much safer. Snow tires don't work on ice. They need snow for the tread to grab. The snow can have some adhesion to ice. So, in some cases unplowed roads offer more traction. Amen! "Scotty" wrote in message ... Both of you have after school detention ! "Bob Crantz" wrote in message k.net... Hey, I get a point for the assist! Amen! "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. . Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows... "Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
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Keep in mind that when most roads are plowed by the local DOT, they put down
sand or magnesium chloride to cut down on the ice danger. You may laugh all you want. Rest assured, hell has no snow or ice on it's roads. Amen! "Scotty" wrote in message ... Stop it Bob, you're killing me. Scotty, ROTFLMAO "Bob Crantz" wrote in message .net... In the short term plowed roads can be more dangerous as it may expose the packed down ice layer at the bottom. However, once the ice layer is exposed, it begins to melt and, over the longer term, the plowed road is much safer. Snow tires don't work on ice. They need snow for the tread to grab. The snow can have some adhesion to ice. So, in some cases unplowed roads offer more traction. Amen! "Scotty" wrote in message ... Both of you have after school detention ! "Bob Crantz" wrote in message k.net... Hey, I get a point for the assist! Amen! "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com.. . Look at Scotty LIE!!! The first post on the subject is as follows... "Otherwise we're approaching the 1 foot mark for snow. I just took the Tribeca out for a ride...modern 4 wheel drive rocks! " And then I said plowed CAN be worse than unplowed snow, which even Bob Crantz agreed to and Mooron backpedalled like Batman after losing his utillity belt!!!! Bwahahahahahaha! I win EVERY time! RB 35s5 NY |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
In article ,
Scotty wrote: Still funny! '' And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' I'm still trying to figure this out.... -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
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Bob Crantz wrote: In the short term plowed roads can be more dangerous as it may expose the packed down ice layer at the bottom. However, once the ice layer is exposed, it begins to melt and, over the longer term, the plowed road is much safer. Well, if you're an idiot, then yes. Seems to me that if you have a 4WD, it's really not an issue. I never had any problems with my old CJ7 either on ice, thinly covered ice, plowed streets??, or fairly deep stuff. Snow tires don't work on ice. They need snow for the tread to grab. The snow can have some adhesion to ice. So, in some cases unplowed roads offer more traction. Well, I took a long slide on ice once with my Jeep... part of the road flooded then froze over.. maybe 100 feet or so.. just put it in reverse and gently applied some gas. Came to stop without hitting the pole at the end of the road. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message nk.net... Keep in mind that when most roads are plowed by the local DOT, they put down sand or magnesium chloride to cut down on the ice danger. Apparently in NYC they spray water after they plow. You may laugh all you want. Rest assured, hell has no snow or ice on it's roads. They plow, right? Awomen! |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty wrote: Still funny! '' And if you knew anything about driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed. '' I'm still trying to figure this out.... Don't hurt yourself. |
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I'm just judging what Robboid has said. It is true, sometimes plowed roads
are worse than unplowed. After they get packed down by traffic, it can be a nightmare. The roads in hell are plowed with good intentions. Amen! |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Bob Crantz wrote: In the short term plowed roads can be more dangerous as it may expose the packed down ice layer at the bottom. However, once the ice layer is exposed, it begins to melt and, over the longer term, the plowed road is much safer. Well, if you're an idiot, then yes. Seems to me that if you have a 4WD, it's really not an issue. I never had any problems with my old CJ7 either on ice, thinly covered ice, plowed streets??, or fairly deep stuff. Your CJ7 is really 2 WD unless it has LSD (limited slip differentials) or locking differentials. If you stop on an slick icy road going uphill and try to take off again you never will in "4WD" or "2WD" with conventional differentials. Conventional differentials turn the wheel with the least resistance, they're useless in real slick going, even if you have 4WD. Here it is explained specifically for Jeeps: http://www.4x4now.com/butjf.htm While you're at it check this out: http://bootnewt.hostingzero.com/ It's the best anti Bush song site anywhere! Amen! Snow tires don't work on ice. They need snow for the tread to grab. The snow can have some adhesion to ice. So, in some cases unplowed roads offer more traction. Well, I took a long slide on ice once with my Jeep... part of the road flooded then froze over.. maybe 100 feet or so.. just put it in reverse and gently applied some gas. Came to stop without hitting the pole at the end of the road. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Scotty wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in Well, I took a long slide on ice once with my Jeep... part of the road flooded then froze over.. maybe 100 feet or so.. just put it in reverse and gently applied some gas. Came to stop without hitting the pole at the end of the road. I hit a 300' long patch of ice coming down Grapevine one year. Started to slide, into a jackknife, hammered down, wheels spinning like crazy, just enough to stay slightly ahead of the trailer, finally hit some plowed snow and straightened out. Whew! that was some ride! I was looking for a soft place to crash. Do you have runaway truck ramps? Of course, that doesn't help if you jackknife. I'm always amazed by the bozos who cut off big rigs... what are they thinking?? Is another 15 seconds worth it... -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Bob Crantz wrote: Your CJ7 is really 2 WD unless it has LSD (limited slip differentials) or locking differentials. If you stop on an slick icy road going uphill and try to take off again you never will in "4WD" or "2WD" with conventional differentials. Mine had locking hubs, which meant I had to get the f*ck out every time I wanted to switch back and forth. Conventional differentials turn the wheel with the least resistance, they're useless in real slick going, even if you have 4WD. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:10:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz" wrote: Your CJ7 is really 2 WD unless it has LSD (limited slip differentials) or locking differentials. If you stop on an slick icy road going uphill and try to take off again you never will in "4WD" or "2WD" with conventional differentials. Conventional differentials turn the wheel with the least resistance, they're useless in real slick going, even if you have 4WD. I assure you that my old CJ2a had 4 wheel drive! It was called four wheel drive, but only two wheels are driven. If you think otherwise here's the schematics of the differentials for a CJ2A: http://www.thecj2apage.com/om10.html Show me either the limited slip clutches or the differential locking mechanism. Hint: there aren't any. It's a real simple test, put the thing up on blocks (4 wheels off the ground). Stop one wheel and the opposite one on the same axle will turn when put into gear. True 4WD will have all wheels turn, if you try to stop one the vehicle will stall. I've worked on CJ2A'a and used one for snow plowing for a short while. It's only 4 wheel drive if the load on each wheel per axle is the same. Float one tire on each axle and you're not going anywhere, it's not driving the wheels in contact with the ground. Amen! |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message k.net... I'm just judging what Robboid has said. It is true, sometimes plowed roads are worse than unplowed. Yeah, and sometimes a fire isn't hot. SV |
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http://www.pps.net.au/4wdencounter/a...difflocks.html "A 'normal' differential transmits drive to both wheels equally when they receive equal traction, but when one wheel loses traction, the diff actually transmits more drive to that wheel. Hence you can become stuck in 2WD with only one wheel bogged. Similairly, when in 4WD you can be bogged with one front and one rear wheel without traction. So your 4WD is really only a 2WD, with one front and one rear wheel providing all forward momentum." |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in Well, I took a long slide on ice once with my Jeep... part of the road flooded then froze over.. maybe 100 feet or so.. just put it in reverse and gently applied some gas. Came to stop without hitting the pole at the end of the road. I hit a 300' long patch of ice coming down Grapevine one year. Started to slide, into a jackknife, hammered down, wheels spinning like crazy, just enough to stay slightly ahead of the trailer, finally hit some plowed snow and straightened out. Whew! that was some ride! I was looking for a soft place to crash. Do you have runaway truck ramps? Of course, that doesn't help if you jackknife. yes, I never had to use one. !,555,000 accident free miles. I'm always amazed by the bozos who cut off big rigs... what are they thinking?? they're not. S |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote I'm always amazed by the bozos who cut off big rigs... what are they thinking?? people like Bob, who thinks unplowed roads are better, prolly also think the more wheels you have the better you can stop. Also, people like Bob think they know how to drive, they don't. S |
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"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:12:32 GMT, "Bob Crantz" wrote: http://www.pps.net.au/4wdencounter/a...difflocks.html "A 'normal' differential transmits drive to both wheels equally when they receive equal traction, but when one wheel loses traction, the diff actually transmits more drive to that wheel. Hence you can become stuck in 2WD with only one wheel bogged. Similairly, when in 4WD you can be bogged with one front and one rear wheel without traction. So your 4WD is really only a 2WD, with one front and one rear wheel providing all forward momentum." Clearly, you do not know much of anything about 4 wheel drive, or what the term actually means. Is your Hundai Sonatra "one wheel drive"? My BMW is. S |
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Scotty wrote: My BMW is. And, you don't need chains in deep snow. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
Dumbest statement of the year....so far
"Mys Terry" wrote in message ... On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 23:12:32 GMT, "Bob Crantz" wrote: http://www.pps.net.au/4wdencounter/a...difflocks.html "A 'normal' differential transmits drive to both wheels equally when they receive equal traction, but when one wheel loses traction, the diff actually transmits more drive to that wheel. Hence you can become stuck in 2WD with only one wheel bogged. Similairly, when in 4WD you can be bogged with one front and one rear wheel without traction. So your 4WD is really only a 2WD, with one front and one rear wheel providing all forward momentum." Clearly, you do not know much of anything about 4 wheel drive, or what the term actually means. I guess not and neither do the guys at ARB lockers. So tell us about Jeep windshields again. Is your Hundai Sonatra "one wheel drive"? Mys Terry |
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