Aggregate cap of 0.2m of crushed 15mm minus. The fractured face count
of
over 90% ensures a lock.


Once again Mooron proves that I'm the #1 most creative guy here!!!!
Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6 inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

Bwahahahahahahahhaha!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6 inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder, Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit... Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar with... a city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder on the road when
driving his rig?

CM-

Actually, snow of any height does help one stop.



"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6 inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder, Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit... Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar with... a city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a plowed street!!
Didn't You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder on the road when
driving his rig?

CM-

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder, Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit... Asphalt?,
Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or calcium been added
to
absorb water or melt ice?


Sorry, Mooron. Your memory failed you again. We were talking about MY
SUV in conditions found yesterday. You actually think that stopping
distances are shorter on ice and packed snow from a plow?!!!
Okie dokie!

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Sorry, Mooron. Your memory failed you again. We were talking about MY
SUV in conditions found yesterday.

aHEM.....I Believe you stated plainly that "And if you knew anything about
driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than unplowed."

You actually think that stopping
distances are shorter on ice and packed snow from a plow?!!!

Stopping distances are a function of mass, inertia and friction surface. Now
that this is explained... let's delve further.... powder snow does not
provide friction of any sort..... nor does it radically impede forward
progress unless it exceeds your ground clearance. Windrowing of snow to the
sides of the tire will impede directional stability.... this results in loss
of control. It is not a condition imposed by friction.

Again..... slow your vehicle to maintain an adequate friction circle to
each tire and minimize momentum to existing conditions. No plowed road shows
glare ice under snow. Even minimal compacted snow surface will provide
traction. Traction is control.

Hope that was easy enough to understand for you.

CM-

aHEM.....I Believe you stated plainly that "And if you knew anything
about
driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than
unplowed."


So now you're planning to backpedal and agree that it's the case with
many vehicles, but not Scotty's truck??
Oh, okay!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Mooron, you screwed the POOCH!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
aHEM.....I Believe you stated plainly that "And if you knew anything
about
driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than
unplowed."


So now you're planning to backpedal and agree that it's the case with
many vehicles, but not Scotty's truck??
Oh, okay!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Mooron, you screwed the POOCH!

There was no back pedal in any statement I made Bobsprit. Loss of control is
higher in an unplowed road than a plowed road.... it's a simple fact.
Scotty's truck has a huge amount of traction due to a combination of area
and number of friction circles provided by the tires. If you combine this
with the weight of the tractor and load.... then add the multiple gear
options... it has a much larger margin before loss of control becomes an
issue.

Now Bobsprit... when it comes to a frictionless surface like glare ice....
I don't care if your "Tribeca" has 30" wheels and 8 wheel drive.... or a
14" layer of powder overlying it.... you ain't goin' nowhere if you don't
have friction=traction.

Understand? ... now run along and stop telling people that unplowed streets
are safer than plowed streets okay?

Sheesh

CM

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6
inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be
involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder,
Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit...
Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or
calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar with... a
city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a
plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder on
the road when
driving his rig?


Hell yeah, I notice. As soon as it starts snowing I get off
the road and drive through unplowed fields. Much better
traction!

Scotty

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6
inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be
involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder,
Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit...
Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or
calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar with... a
city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a
plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder on
the road when
driving his rig?


Hell yeah, I notice. As soon as it starts snowing I get off
the road and drive through unplowed fields. Much better
traction!

Was that you driving through my back yard on Sunday?
Scout

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6
inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be
involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder,
Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit...
Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or
calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar
with... a
city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a
plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder
on
the road when
driving his rig?


Hell yeah, I notice. As soon as it starts snowing I get
off
the road and drive through unplowed fields. Much better
traction!

Was that you driving through my back yard on Sunday?
Scout


Yes, I needed the traction.

S