"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Age is finally getting to you?

For sure - and it sucks.

Tolerating? What are you going to do about it, whine the dude to death?

Stand up and say it isn't right. Not back down from my belief that it
isn't right.

Ok, you'd whine them to death.

Phobia: An irrational fear or anxiety .... like a phobia about certain sounds
or
words.

So, where do you see fear or anxiety in any of my response.

I see a pavlovian response involving irrational anxiety in all of them.

No, there is nothing wrong with a *little* sensitivity but pavlovian
oversensitivity, not callousness, is the demon. Nor is there anything
wrong

So far, I haven't seen your ability to do this.

That's because you are phobic.

Oh, well, if you day so! NOT

Look at you knee jerk response to what you are conditioned to think are 'bad
words'. It's the same response as someone with a snake phobia who steps on a
snake.

There's a difference between giving language color and being offensive
for no reason. The latter is what we're talking about.

No, expressions like this cause harm, sometimes physical harm to
people if the people who use them are not called on their behavior.

I didn't say that words could not hurt some people, just that words cannot hurt
*rational* people. Someone who hates jews, for example, but is in denial, might
be offended by 'Jew down' or 'Jew book' but the pain comes from his own
prejudices not the words which bother nobody who lacks these prejudices. There
is no word you could speak that would cause me anxiety, let alone irrational
anxiety.

Sure, whatever.

I'm glad you finally agree and hope you will work on your phobias.

Too bad for you. In any case, you're not much of a human being if you
condone this sort of behavior.

It's got nothing to do with whether or not it hurts "rational" people. The
issue is the cumlative effect of allowing this behavior to go unchallenged.

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
Age is finally getting to you?

For sure - and it sucks.

Tolerating? What are you going to do about it, whine the dude to death?

Stand up and say it isn't right. Not back down from my belief that it
isn't right.

Ok, you'd whine them to death.

Phobia: An irrational fear or anxiety .... like a phobia about certain
sounds
or
words.

So, where do you see fear or anxiety in any of my response.

I see a pavlovian response involving irrational anxiety in all of them.

No, there is nothing wrong with a *little* sensitivity but pavlovian
oversensitivity, not callousness, is the demon. Nor is there
anything
wrong

So far, I haven't seen your ability to do this.

That's because you are phobic.

Oh, well, if you day so! NOT

Look at you knee jerk response to what you are conditioned to think are
'bad
words'. It's the same response as someone with a snake phobia who steps
on a
snake.

There's a difference between giving language color and being offensive
for no reason. The latter is what we're talking about.

No, expressions like this cause harm, sometimes physical harm to
people if the people who use them are not called on their behavior.

I didn't say that words could not hurt some people, just that words cannot
hurt
*rational* people. Someone who hates jews, for example, but is in denial,
might
be offended by 'Jew down' or 'Jew book' but the pain comes from his own
prejudices not the words which bother nobody who lacks these prejudices.
There
is no word you could speak that would cause me anxiety, let alone
irrational
anxiety.

Sure, whatever.

I'm glad you finally agree and hope you will work on your phobias.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Too bad for you. In any case, you're not much of a human being if you
condone this sort of behavior.

It's got nothing to do with whether or not it hurts "rational" people. The
issue is the cumlative effect of allowing this behavior to go unchallenged.

Same response I'd expect from anybody with a phobia about (fill in blank) when
they are told that their phobia is irrational.

"It has nothing to do with whether or not garter snakes are poisonous. The
issue is the cumulative effect of allowing one in your back yard where it might
frighten me"

"Vito" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Too bad for you. In any case, you're not much of a human being if you
condone this sort of behavior.

It's got nothing to do with whether or not it hurts "rational" people.
The
issue is the cumlative effect of allowing this behavior to go
unchallenged.

Same response I'd expect from anybody with a phobia about (fill in blank)
when
they are told that their phobia is irrational.

Same response I'd expect from someone who is trying to defend the
indefensible.