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awww come on Bart..If I was a busy bizzilion air I might spend a few
days in the southern ocean the day after flying a russian mig or
climbing Mt Everest. Where is your spirt of adventure?

Heck... if you had 25 million you could spend a week on the
international space station. Chump change to some people.

Just think of all the nice steel hulls he's bldg with the doe.

Joe

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...

"John Cairns" wrote

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Note the contrast between Chay Blyth's BT Challenge which is
a pure hungry money-grab, set up with hank-on-sails and a
ridiculously huge 18 man crew, to Dee's sensible roller furling
set up.

http://tinylink.com/?3DNELMWczN

They're offering more than one type of pay for berth option, this looks
interesting, and fairly reasonably priced, and logistically anyways,
easier for partcipants as it's a out and back deal.
As far as the racing round the world berths, they are pricey, but
consider the available options re/time and money. They will let you crew
for a leg, where else could you do this for $20k, and only need that
amount of a time commitment to do, if you wanted to do some sailing for
an extended period in the southern oceans?

John Cairns

I think this it is far better to do it yourself. $20k to suffer in the
Southern
Ocean? It's absurd! A novice should learn in more benign conditions.

Chay Blyth, is mercenary, and not doing this for the best interest of the
people involved. I would never recommend people to spend that kind
of money to puke in the Southern Ocean. I would recommend they put
the money towards purchasing their own boat, alone or in partnership,
and learn in gradual stages.


Tell you what, the idea really appealed to me, but there is no way I would
have the time to do it without being retired. Not to mention the fact that
it is a fair deal of $$$, more than I would be willing to spend. I don't
know how you would learn heavy weather sailing without going into heavy
weather and I suspect that a fair # of these paying crew aren't novices.

http://www.sarahvorwerk.com/

Henk used to advertise something called "heavy weather sailing training"
they would sail 250nm? out west of the cape, he doesn't do that any more, my
guess is that he didn't have enough customers. His training trips were
pretty reasonably priced, IIRC. The only comparable thing he has now is the
sail between Stanley and Ushuaia, problem is, it is very difficult and
expensive to get from here to there (Stanley).

John Cairns

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Joe, I know you better than that, in those conditions,
you would by one of these steel boats and go do it on
your own.

"Joe" wrote
awww come on Bart..If I was a busy bizzilion air I might spend a few
days in the southern ocean the day after flying a russian mig or
climbing Mt Everest. Where is your spirt of adventure?

Heck... if you had 25 million you could spend a week on the
international space station. Chump change to some people.

Just think of all the nice steel hulls he's bldg with the doe.

Joe

The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
 

Sailing to Antartica has appeal. The BT Global
Challenge is for fools begging to be parted with
their money.

"John Cairns" wrote
Tell you what, the idea really appealed to me, but there is no way I would
have the time to do it without being retired. Not to mention the fact that
it is a fair deal of $$$, more than I would be willing to spend. I don't
know how you would learn heavy weather sailing without going into heavy
weather and I suspect that a fair # of these paying crew aren't novices.

http://www.sarahvorwerk.com/

Henk used to advertise something called "heavy weather sailing training"
they would sail 250nm? out west of the cape, he doesn't do that any more,
my guess is that he didn't have enough customers. His training trips were
pretty reasonably priced, IIRC. The only comparable thing he has now is
the sail between Stanley and Ushuaia, problem is, it is very difficult and
expensive to get from here to there (Stanley).

John Cairns