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Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
Today... during my internet wanderings... I ran across this web site:
http://www.avivachallenge.com/index.asp It is about a young lady (Dee Caffari) sailing solo aboard the "Aviva" a Challenge 72' Class yacht... and attempting a solo circumnavigation the hard way. She left England the latter part of November and is headed west via the Southern Seas as her routing. In the last few days or so... she rounded the "Horn" and reported in at about 53 degrees South... and 139 degrees West. It appears to me that her sponsors have "deep pockets" and the vessel... support team... much less the aforementioned web sit are first class. Needless to say... she is also a very accomplished skipper as well. Any how... some of you may enjoy following her trials and tribulations via the web site. She has state of the art communications aboard so she posts quite regularly. Best regards Bill |
Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
Wow. She is cute. It would be rough, but I could handle
being "stuck" sailing with her for half a year. wrote Today... during my internet wanderings... I ran across this web site: http://www.avivachallenge.com/index.asp It is about a young lady (Dee Caffari) sailing solo aboard the "Aviva" a Challenge 72' Class yacht... and attempting a solo circumnavigation the hard way. She left England the latter part of November and is headed west via the Southern Seas as her routing. In the last few days or so... she rounded the "Horn" and reported in at about 53 degrees South... and 139 degrees West. It appears to me that her sponsors have "deep pockets" and the vessel... support team... much less the aforementioned web sit are first class. Needless to say... she is also a very accomplished skipper as well. Any how... some of you may enjoy following her trials and tribulations via the web site. She has state of the art communications aboard so she posts quite regularly. Best regards Bill |
Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
It would be rough, but I could handle being "stuck" sailing with
her for half a year. You know Bart... the same thought ran through my alleged mind as well. (smile) Apparently she previously skippered this same vessel with an all male crew (18) around the world as well. Obviously... she is now trying it on her own. Admittedly I don't know that much about boats... but it certainly looks like the "Aviva" has all the "whistles and bells". Like I men- tioned earlier... she has some fantastic financial and logistical backing. Must be nice... Bill (wishing he could be the cabin steward... heh heh) |
Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
They pay like 14K a leg. 5 legs X 3 people
helps pays for http://minihane.tripod.com/btglobalchallenge/boat1.JPG Joe |
Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
Circumnavigate north to south then south to north.
No one has ever done that. Amen! "DSK" wrote in message ... wrote: Today... during my internet wanderings... I ran across this web site: http://www.avivachallenge.com/index.asp It is about a young lady (Dee Caffari) sailing solo aboard the "Aviva" a Challenge 72' Class yacht... and attempting a solo circumnavigation the hard way. She's singlehanding one of the BT Challenge boats, they sail around the world "the wrong way," people line up to pay for crew spots. Crazy. BTW the boats are steel, but built for speed. DSK |
Wow... Check out this circumnavigational effort!
Bob Crantz wrote:
Circumnavigate north to south then south to north. No one has ever done that. My impression is that some of the dirigible flights of the late 1920s and early 1930s came pretty close to that. DSK |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
Someone decided that a British woman should be the
first woman to go around the wrong (safe) way. Let us understand what is really going on here. Could it be this event happened purely out of national pride? Or was this primarily a good advertisement for the BT Global Challenge and a way to make money off of an insurance company named Aviva? Dee Caffari is mostly a lucky woman to be sponsored to do this event. I have to admire her. What male sailor cannot help but admire an attractive and capable female skipper? Aviva knows her tale will stir the hearts of many around the world, and it has. That is good advertising, but I feel it diminishes the event. Nearly anyone can do something like this, with a measure of determination, and the right backers. Or perhaps the right backers and a carefully chosen skipper. The skipper is certainly less important that everything else. Obviously a pretty face opens some doors, and being a woman is a requirement for a female event like this. Actually sailing the event is not all that hard in a boat that has been modified to be easy to sail which is how every other ocean racer should be rigged! Note the contrast between Chay Blyth's BT Challenge which is a pure hungry money-grab, set up with hank-on-sails and a ridiculously huge 18 man crew, to Dee's sensible roller furling set up. Perhaps now the fools that are suckered into paying Chay Blythe small fortunes will understand the boat really only needs one or two people to sail it around the world--not 18 people. This serves to gross $810,000/boat for Chay Blythe, or $9.72 million for all 12 boats--Plus sponsor money, as the names of these boats change to suit the sponsor. In this case I wonder how much the insurance company Aviva is contributing? Does the even make a profit? I would expect it does. At a minimum it is advertising for future BT Global Challenges with renamed boats. Given a more realistic crew size Chay would not make so much money on the BT Global Challenge. Most of the sailors were not hard-core sailors--they freely admit these are people going through middle life crisis. I have more respect for individuals who do it all on their own--the fund raising, the rigging, the PR, and the sailing, whether it is something as simple as a transatlantic crossing or a major event. All that aside, I have to say I really like the way Aviva is rigged. Steel is strong, the boat is easy to sail, and it is large enough to relax. Sailing in the Southern Ocean means watch keeping can be like Robin Knox-Johnston's where he would sleep 8 hours at a stretch on Suhali. These steel boats are well designed for ocean cruising, and not terrible risky outside the shipping lanes. What would have made the whole thing interesting is if they had made it a race with 12 different women skippers racing for the prize of the historical distinction of being the first woman to sail around the wrong way. The woman who won that would have earned well deserved and serious distinction. The way Dee is pursuing this record--if you want to call sailing the easy way around a record, is simply a matter of time, like a job promotion based not on merit, but on longevity. "DSK" wrote ... wrote: Today... during my internet wanderings... I ran across this web site: http://www.avivachallenge.com/index.asp It is about a young lady (Dee Caffari) sailing solo aboard the "Aviva" a Challenge 72' Class yacht... and attempting a solo circumnavigation the hard way. She's singlehanding one of the BT Challenge boats, they sail around the world "the wrong way," people line up to pay for crew spots. Crazy. BTW the boats are steel, but built for speed. DSK |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Note the contrast between Chay Blyth's BT Challenge which is a pure hungry money-grab, set up with hank-on-sails and a ridiculously huge 18 man crew, to Dee's sensible roller furling set up. http://tinylink.com/?3DNELMWczN They're offering more than one type of pay for berth option, this looks interesting, and fairly reasonably priced, and logistically anyways, easier for partcipants as it's a out and back deal. As far as the racing round the world berths, they are pricey, but consider the available options re/time and money. They will let you crew for a leg, where else could you do this for $20k, and only need that amount of a time commitment to do, if you wanted to do some sailing for an extended period in the southern oceans? John Cairns |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
"John Cairns" wrote "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Note the contrast between Chay Blyth's BT Challenge which is a pure hungry money-grab, set up with hank-on-sails and a ridiculously huge 18 man crew, to Dee's sensible roller furling set up. http://tinylink.com/?3DNELMWczN They're offering more than one type of pay for berth option, this looks interesting, and fairly reasonably priced, and logistically anyways, easier for partcipants as it's a out and back deal. As far as the racing round the world berths, they are pricey, but consider the available options re/time and money. They will let you crew for a leg, where else could you do this for $20k, and only need that amount of a time commitment to do, if you wanted to do some sailing for an extended period in the southern oceans? John Cairns I think this it is far better to do it yourself. $20k to suffer in the Southern Ocean? It's absurd! A novice should learn in more benign conditions. Chay Blyth, is mercenary, and not doing this for the best interest of the people involved. I would never recommend people to spend that kind of money to puke in the Southern Ocean. I would recommend they put the money towards purchasing their own boat, alone or in partnership, and learn in gradual stages. |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
awww come on Bart..If I was a busy bizzilion air I might spend a few
days in the southern ocean the day after flying a russian mig or climbing Mt Everest. Where is your spirt of adventure? Heck... if you had 25 million you could spend a week on the international space station. Chump change to some people. Just think of all the nice steel hulls he's bldg with the doe. Joe |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... "John Cairns" wrote "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Note the contrast between Chay Blyth's BT Challenge which is a pure hungry money-grab, set up with hank-on-sails and a ridiculously huge 18 man crew, to Dee's sensible roller furling set up. http://tinylink.com/?3DNELMWczN They're offering more than one type of pay for berth option, this looks interesting, and fairly reasonably priced, and logistically anyways, easier for partcipants as it's a out and back deal. As far as the racing round the world berths, they are pricey, but consider the available options re/time and money. They will let you crew for a leg, where else could you do this for $20k, and only need that amount of a time commitment to do, if you wanted to do some sailing for an extended period in the southern oceans? John Cairns I think this it is far better to do it yourself. $20k to suffer in the Southern Ocean? It's absurd! A novice should learn in more benign conditions. Chay Blyth, is mercenary, and not doing this for the best interest of the people involved. I would never recommend people to spend that kind of money to puke in the Southern Ocean. I would recommend they put the money towards purchasing their own boat, alone or in partnership, and learn in gradual stages. Tell you what, the idea really appealed to me, but there is no way I would have the time to do it without being retired. Not to mention the fact that it is a fair deal of $$$, more than I would be willing to spend. I don't know how you would learn heavy weather sailing without going into heavy weather and I suspect that a fair # of these paying crew aren't novices. http://www.sarahvorwerk.com/ Henk used to advertise something called "heavy weather sailing training" they would sail 250nm? out west of the cape, he doesn't do that any more, my guess is that he didn't have enough customers. His training trips were pretty reasonably priced, IIRC. The only comparable thing he has now is the sail between Stanley and Ushuaia, problem is, it is very difficult and expensive to get from here to there (Stanley). John Cairns |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
Joe, I know you better than that, in those conditions,
you would by one of these steel boats and go do it on your own. "Joe" wrote awww come on Bart..If I was a busy bizzilion air I might spend a few days in the southern ocean the day after flying a russian mig or climbing Mt Everest. Where is your spirt of adventure? Heck... if you had 25 million you could spend a week on the international space station. Chump change to some people. Just think of all the nice steel hulls he's bldg with the doe. Joe |
The BT Challenge Great Rip Off
Sailing to Antartica has appeal. The BT Global
Challenge is for fools begging to be parted with their money. "John Cairns" wrote Tell you what, the idea really appealed to me, but there is no way I would have the time to do it without being retired. Not to mention the fact that it is a fair deal of $$$, more than I would be willing to spend. I don't know how you would learn heavy weather sailing without going into heavy weather and I suspect that a fair # of these paying crew aren't novices. http://www.sarahvorwerk.com/ Henk used to advertise something called "heavy weather sailing training" they would sail 250nm? out west of the cape, he doesn't do that any more, my guess is that he didn't have enough customers. His training trips were pretty reasonably priced, IIRC. The only comparable thing he has now is the sail between Stanley and Ushuaia, problem is, it is very difficult and expensive to get from here to there (Stanley). John Cairns |
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