Mooron said pointed out

"because he has no idea
of what a good vessel is. Any boat you buy becomes a project boat. To
prove
my point.... how many owners here have not made alterations,
improvements or
additions to their boats????

Indeed you are correct, Bob has never owned a boat long enough to know
anything about it, except what a broker or brocure says.

Next he thinks his stepping stone is going to be a
liveaboard.....Bwahahahahahahahahaha it will never happen.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mooron said pointed out

"because he has no idea
of what a good vessel is. Any boat you buy becomes a project boat. To
prove
my point.... how many owners here have not made alterations,
improvements or
additions to their boats????

Indeed you are correct, Bob has never owned a boat long enough to know
anything about it, except what a broker or brocure says.

Next he thinks his stepping stone is going to be a
liveaboard.....Bwahahahahahahahahaha it will never happen.

Certainly it will...... when he buys his Trawler. Bobsprit has funding from
his parents and his wife. The only question is... will it be a Nordhaven or
a Cape Hatteras???

CM

CM

It will never happen, he's not cut out for it......even on a trawler.


Joe

it will not
perform to his expectations .


Too late, Mooron! We already sailed her twice and she's frikin' fast
and fun! Down below is nice and room is much more than your boat. Best
of all we won't have to redo poor craftsmanship as you did. The fit and
finish of the 35s5 is excellent as noted in the surveys.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Too late, Mooron! We already sailed her twice and she's frikin' fast
and fun! Down below is nice and room is much more than your boat. Best
of all we won't have to redo poor craftsmanship as you did. The fit and
finish of the 35s5 is excellent as noted in the surveys.

This statement by someone who has never had the appitude, ability or
capability to effect alterations or improvements beyond having the "yard"
install a sound system.

Fast is relative, I would expect more room with an extra 5 feet of length
and there is little to no up keep nor capability to alter the interior of a
peel'n'stik decor without adding sufficient weight to slow that dock condo
down to barge speeds.... since it depends on it's light weight to generate
those speeds.

Buy a Nordhaven Trawler Bobsprit.... you'll have the room, power and speed
you so desire. Face it man... you just aren't cut out for sailing. You fear
the water and panic at the thought of open sea.

CM

This statement by someone who has never had the appitude, ability or
capability to effect alterations or improvements beyond having the
"yard"
install a sound system.


Sorry AGAIN, mooron!
I removed and restored the sole of the C&C 32 along with other interior
teak. I also removed and refit all of the ports to like new condition,
did the same for all teak on the P30, which included the coamings. My
yard never installed any electronics...I do it myself. In fact I just
installed a flush VHS radio and stereo on a Bayliner 34 for the yard.


Fast is relative,

Your boat is slow by nearly any comparable standard.

you'll have the room, power and speed
you so desire.


I have that now. But when will you get something as fast or fun as my
35s5? And of course 35s5's have circumnaviagted. Nordica 30 has not.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ... nothing relative and
certainly nothing based on fact

To save you the time of running out to the Nordica Website and selectively
quoting me again... I'll include the whole dang thing...


" The Nordica 30 is a double ended, masthead sloop with a full keel
and cutaway forefoot. The rudder is a stern hung tiller design. L.O.A. is
29' 10" with a L.W.L. of 25' -1" Some versions were built with a factory
installed bowsprit which increases the L.O.A. to 33'. The interior is
finished with teak and the layout is generally roomy... more so than most
boats of this size and category. The woodwork inside is not always of the
best workmanship and is a common problem with all Nordicas. The layout
includes a galley to port with a propane stove and oven, a single or double
sink and a cooler/icebox. A dinette to port and a settee to stbd. which
includes a nav station with electric panel. The vessel sleeps 4 in comfort
and six maximum. The layout and design of the vessel allows for lots of
storage space. The head clearance of approximately 6' is reasonable, but
limiting to taller persons.

I sail on Great Slave Lake in the Northwest territories and find the
boat to be reasonably quick for a moderate displacement hull and is
downright fast off the wind. It has a very sea kindly motion and is
relatively dry even in the steep waves found here. Some modifications were
done to allow access to all areas of the hull as well to the factory
installed scupper drains which are woefully too small (1/2 inch) to be of
any use. The factory supplied Volvo / 17 hp diesel was replaced with a new
27 hp Yanmar. All in all, a very forgiving boat that handles very well. "




So there you have it... an honest and balanced opinion from an owner. My
Nordica 30 is still ten times the boat your excerise in plastic look-alike
dock condo with the peel'n'stik interior will ever be. It's older, in
better shape and will last longer. When your 35s5 becomes a design
nightmare..... the Nordica will retain her charm, lines and improve with
age.

Then again... I'm happy with my boat and don't want a larger, newer design
every 2 years because unlike you... I don't buy crap.... I know what I want
in a sailboat... I bought based on that criteria.... I bought the largest
vessel I can handle and sail easily by myself.... I understand why I
sail... and it's not powering around a harbour in a sailboat claiming 2 hr
daysails 3 times a week as having more time on boats than anyone else.

Bobsprit... I have seen and met many Power Boaters, some of my best friends
are power boaters, I'd even let my sister date a power boater...... and you
Bobsprit..... have all the credentials and behavioural characteristics of a
dyed in the wool...POWER BOATER!!

Seriously... buy a Nordhaven 46... Be Happy for once.... you do not belong
on a sailboat!

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

35s5's have circumnaviagted. Nordica 30 has not.


Faulty logic there Bob.

Cheers
Marty