In my mind the reason to own a
mid/small size sailboat is the same a owning vintage cars or
motorcycles - to
keep them up and enjoy their traditional designs.


And this is why I'm smarter than you...and always will be. I want to
sail. I don't want to work on a boat unless I decide to work on boats
for money. If I wanted a traditional design, I'd seek out a RESTORED
boat with very few issues. I prefer sailing to rebuilding interiors as
Mooron was forced to do. I'm also smarter than you because I bought a
boat that sails fast and with a lot of responsivness; something missed
out on by a lot of old-time sailors.
Sounds to me like you need a lot of excuses to stay home and sand wood.
Come spring we'll be sailing 3-4 days a week or more! Keep us posted on
the "project boat."

"Hell, I'm a sailor. I'm glad someone works on those old boats. And
everytime I take my modern 43 foot glass racer out I'm glad it's not
me!"
-Dennis Connor

RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...
In my mind the reason to own a
mid/small size sailboat is the same a owning vintage cars or
motorcycles - to
keep them up and enjoy their traditional designs.



I don't want to work on a boat unless I decide to work on
boats
for money.


he just doesn't get it.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
In my mind the reason to own a
mid/small size sailboat is the same a owning vintage cars or
motorcycles - to
keep them up and enjoy their traditional designs.


And this is why I'm smarter than you...and always will be.

So you bought a paper-thin hull to sail in a cesspool?? If that's "smart" then
yes you are far smarter than I.

I want to sail.

Then why not buy a full-size boat you can sail to interesting destinations - or
if your crew can't handle such a boat then move to some decent reasonably clean
place? There are nice places where you can sail for hours and see nary a turd
or used condom afloat.

I don't want to work on a boat unless I decide to work on boats
for money.

Money? I thot you already had money?

. I'm also smarter than you because I bought a
boat that sails fast and with a lot of responsivness;

If I wanted speed and responsiveness I'd buy a jet ski and buzz dudes like you.
But I sail for relaxation. When I want an adrenaline high I do something
exciting.

"Capt" Rob" wrote
Basically only a few people don't own aging crap

Sturgeon's Law: At least 90% of everything made is crap.

This suggests that careful choices are how to avoid crap,
not buying new and certainly not forming opinions based on
advertising.


Me and the 35s5....new enough to be problem free. She needs nothing.

Not a windlass? How about the rod heads in the rigging? They
age, same as swage terminals on wire rigging.



Vito wrote:
You are certainly correct in my case - at least partly. My boat does need a lot
of work but I would hardly call her "crap" nor was she bought on a 'tired
budget' (I'm unsure what 'tiring problems' are).

That's when your money gets exhausted from being bragged
about so much.

.... In my mind the reason to own a
mid/small size sailboat is the same a owning vintage cars or motorcycles - to
keep them up and enjoy their traditional designs. Otherwise why bother?

For mid/small traditional boats, yes. It's a good thing,
worth doing, to bring them forward so the next generation of
sailors will be able to experience them too. OTOH a
mid/small size boat need not be traditional to be worth
owning and/or working on.


... I can
understand owning a new larger ocean going yacht - something over 65' - but a
new 35' with weird lines to take your family swimming in a cesspool? No thanks.


Sounds like you're coming down with a bad case of good
judgement. And Bubbles boat (presuming he really does have
one) isn't "new" other than in grossly relative terms.

Why 'ocean going' at 65'? That's too big IMHO unless you
want professional crew along.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Not a windlass? How about the rod heads in the rigging? They
age, same as swage terminals on wire rigging.


Rod heads replaced in 03 and 04. Why do I need a windlass? I easily
handled the anchor on the C&C 32. Will I have a much harder time on the
35s5?

RB
35s5
NY

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"Swab Rob" wrote ...
Not a windlass? How about the rod heads in the rigging? They
age, same as swage terminals on wire rigging.


Rod heads replaced in 03 and 04. Why do I need a windlass? I
never leave the slip.

BB
35s5 the limo version of the Mac26X
NY

"DSK" wrote
Vito wrote:
You are certainly correct in my case - at least partly. My boat does need a
lot
of work but I would hardly call her "crap" nor was she bought on a 'tired
budget' (I'm unsure what 'tiring problems' are).

That's when your money gets exhausted from being bragged
about so much.

That's OK, me rich uncle sends me a couple thousand whenever I need it - in
addition to my salery of course.


.... In my mind the reason to own a
mid/small size sailboat is the same a owning vintage cars or motorcycles -
to
keep them up and enjoy their traditional designs. Otherwise why bother?

OTOH a
mid/small size boat need not be traditional to be worth
owning and/or working on.

True - provided you have a decent place to enjoy her without coming down with
the galloping crud whenever swallowing a bit of spray.


... I can
understand owning a new larger ocean going yacht - something over 65' - but
a
new 35' with weird lines to take your family swimming in a cesspool? No
thanks.


Sounds like you're coming down with a bad case of good
judgement. And Bubbles boat (presuming he really does have
one) isn't "new" other than in grossly relative terms.

Why 'ocean going' at 65'?

wink cuz bubbles can't afford one - heh heh!

True - provided you have a decent place to enjoy her without coming
down with
the galloping crud whenever swallowing a bit of spray.


You should sail the LIS here. Because of the race, the waters test
better than most beach waters in the USA yearly. Water is very clean.
I've heard about people getting sick on the Chesapeak, LA waters,
Florida (of course) and so on...but not on the LIS. Then again, I'd
stay away from ANY shallow water on the LIS due to sediment
contamination.

RB
35s5
NY