Big Design Flaw!!!
 

I finally found the fatal and serious flaw in the Beneteau 35s5.
Obviously it's not the way she sails, or her construction or even her
high quality build and interior.
I pulled the batteries Saturday, which are both group 24's and realized
that there isn't room for group 27's in the battery bay, two of which
are sitting in my garage. I'll probably look into setting up a 3rd
battery, but I think Beneteau could have considered folks who might
want those extra amps.

Ah well.


RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Why would you need bigger batteries when you have 110volts of AC running
dockside????
Maybe put a forklift battery on the swim platform to power all the
electronics. You should have ample reserve for your 2 hour
cruises...especially with the aux charging the battery!

CM


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I finally found the fatal and serious flaw in the Beneteau 35s5.
Obviously it's not the way she sails, or her construction or even her
high quality build and interior.
I pulled the batteries Saturday, which are both group 24's and realized
that there isn't room for group 27's in the battery bay, two of which
are sitting in my garage. I'll probably look into setting up a 3rd
battery, but I think Beneteau could have considered folks who might
want those extra amps.

Ah well.


RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Why would you need bigger batteries when you have 110volts of AC
running
dockside????


Ummm...because I don't. Whatever made you think such a thing?

RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

You should have ample reserve for your 2 hour
cruises...especially with the aux charging the battery!


What about our 3 day weekends on anchor and wanting to run the fridge,
lights, stereo, LCD TV for a couple of nights? Do you think two well
charged GRP 24's will handle that?


RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

but **** you very much for the thought in
trying to keep us uptodate.


Wow! Another guy who hasn't gotten laid...ever!!! Now I wonder who "in
the shadow: could be??? Couldn't be a sockpuppet, now could it???

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB
35s5...the boat that gets action
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
You should have ample reserve for your 2 hour
cruises...especially with the aux charging the battery!


What about our 3 day weekends on anchor and wanting to run the fridge,
lights, stereo, LCD TV for a couple of nights? Do you think two well
charged GRP 24's will handle that?


RB
35s5
NY

Why have a boat, for goodness sake? You can stay home and do that
stuff....

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Why have a boat, for goodness sake? You can stay home and do that
stuff....


You can stay home and have good sex too. Do it aboard and you'll have
great sex! Some folks like music and even a classic film after sailing,
Katy. It's fine if you don't. It's even fine if you're okay with good
rather than great sex.

RB
35s5...A better boat than Katys
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
Why have a boat, for goodness sake? You can stay home and do that
stuff....


You can stay home and have good sex too. Do it aboard and you'll have
great sex! Some folks like music and even a classic film after sailing,
Katy. It's fine if you don't. It's even fine if you're okay with good
rather than great sex.

RB
35s5...A better boat than Katys
NY

non sequitar...

Your life is way too cluttered...

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

What a brilliant woman!

Amen!

Clutter is the distraction from life.

Glory!

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. Rob wrote:
Why have a boat, for goodness sake? You can stay home and do that
stuff....


You can stay home and have good sex too. Do it aboard and you'll have
great sex! Some folks like music and even a classic film after sailing,
Katy. It's fine if you don't. It's even fine if you're okay with good
rather than great sex.

RB
35s5...A better boat than Katys
NY

non sequitar...

Your life is way too cluttered...

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Our life is frittered away by detail. An honest man has hardly need to
count more than his ten fingers, or in extreme cases he may add his ten
toes, and lump the rest. Simplicity, simplicity, simplicity! I say, let your
affairs be as two or three, and not a hundred or a thousand; instead of a
million count half a dozen, and keep your accounts on your thumb-nail. In
the midst of this chopping sea of civilized life, such are the clouds and
storms and quicksands and thousand-and-one items to be allowed for, that a
man has to live, if he would not founder and go to the bottom and not make
his port at all, by dead reckoning, and he must be a great calculator indeed
who succeeds. Simplify, simplify. Instead of three meals a day, if it be
necessary eat but one; instead of a hundred dishes, five; and reduce other
things in proportion.

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
You should have ample reserve for your 2 hour
cruises...especially with the aux charging the battery!


What about our 3 day weekends on anchor and wanting to run the fridge,
lights, stereo, LCD TV for a couple of nights? Do you think two well
charged GRP 24's will handle that?

Sure Bob... no problem. What do you think the charter boats do in the
tropics???
Of course you'll have to learn to only waddle to the fridge once a night and
take out what you need instead of testing the hinges like you do on your
home unit. You run your aux to charge the bank in case your day's run of 5
hours charge time was insufficient to overcome the draw of the electronics
required to keep you entertained. Let's see now... you have a kid and it's
summer, the sun sets at around 2100hrs... so lights out at 2200hrs because
you're not accustomed to late night parties. A lab top can run the DVD....
and viola.."Bob's Your Uncle" ... 2 group 24s worked fine.

But I would go with the forklift battery strapped to the swim platform...
it'll actually give the area a use and you can run the deck floods and turn
on every light for the whole night. You could balance the forklift battery
to port with a ginormous genset to stbd of the swim platform.

BTW - you only have one bank because your boat is a POS designed for day
sails by newbies.

CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Mooron pointed out

BTW - you only have one bank because your boat is a POS designed for day
sails by newbies.

CM

Think that may be the same reason for the size of the holding tank?

Joe

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mooron pointed out

BTW - you only have one bank because your boat is a POS designed for day
sails by newbies.

CM

Think that may be the same reason for the size of the holding tank?

Let's face it... Bobsprit claims to be a sailing enthusiast but his
priorities define him as wanting a Motorhome! He would be much better off on
a Nordhaven Trawler which could generate the electrical requirements to
operate all the "conveniences" he wants to surround himself with while out
at "sea" on the roaring LIS.

We all know that Bob is no sailor, this has been clarified repeatly by his
rational for what he considers primary importance in a sailing vessel....

Bob is the type of person that would well suit the Blue Blazer and lil'
Captain's Hat, power boat mentality kind of person.... waddling down the
dock to his hugh trawler. Then he could sit in his converted Lazy boy chair
at the helm, never again to complain of wheel marks on his stomach, spin his
power steering wheel with the clamped on turn knob, flip on his home theatre
system, activate his 30 speaker surround sound unit, fire up the air
conditioner, have real teak as opposed to cheap plastic veneer, have a real
galley to feed his enormous appetite, have an actual salon he wouldn't have
to turn sideways to navigate, have full standing head room and a king size
bed to be turned down again by Suzanne claiming a headache, to enjoy "great
sex" manually while Suzanne snored, have an intercom for Thomas's room, have
a diesel genset in a sound proof room, have a real swim platform, and last
but not least .... have a bigger place than the apartment he currently lives
in.

Yup... as you can see... Bob is a Power Boater... and "jealious" of Doug!!!

CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Bwaaahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:eNQyf.87380$AP5.48459@edtnps84...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Mooron pointed out

BTW - you only have one bank because your boat is a POS designed for
day
sails by newbies.

CM

Think that may be the same reason for the size of the holding tank?

Let's face it... Bobsprit claims to be a sailing enthusiast but his
priorities define him as wanting a Motorhome! He would be much better off
on a Nordhaven Trawler which could generate the electrical requirements to
operate all the "conveniences" he wants to surround himself with while out
at "sea" on the roaring LIS.

We all know that Bob is no sailor, this has been clarified repeatly by his
rational for what he considers primary importance in a sailing vessel....

Bob is the type of person that would well suit the Blue Blazer and lil'
Captain's Hat, power boat mentality kind of person.... waddling down the
dock to his hugh trawler. Then he could sit in his converted Lazy boy
chair at the helm, never again to complain of wheel marks on his stomach,
spin his power steering wheel with the clamped on turn knob, flip on his
home theatre system, activate his 30 speaker surround sound unit, fire up
the air conditioner, have real teak as opposed to cheap plastic veneer,
have a real galley to feed his enormous appetite, have an actual salon he
wouldn't have to turn sideways to navigate, have full standing head room
and a king size bed to be turned down again by Suzanne claiming a
headache, to enjoy "great sex" manually while Suzanne snored, have an
intercom for Thomas's room, have a diesel genset in a sound proof room,
have a real swim platform, and last but not least .... have a bigger place
than the apartment he currently lives in.

Yup... as you can see... Bob is a Power Boater... and "jealious" of
Doug!!!

CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Maybe, but you have to admit that he's quite funny!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
but **** you very much for the thought in
trying to keep us uptodate.


Wow! Another guy who hasn't gotten laid...ever!!! Now I wonder who "in
the shadow: could be??? Couldn't be a sockpuppet, now could it???

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB
35s5...the boat that gets action
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Bobsprit claims to be a sailing enthusiast but his
priorities define him as wanting a Motorhome! He would be much better
off on
a Nordhaven Trawler


You must mean Doug, who actually spends his time on his trawler.

RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

non sequitar...

Your life is way too cluttered...


Not if we don't feel cluttered, Katy.


RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Good lord Dopey Commodore, His boat was on the hard.

Just like me(except he had a boat) no sailing at all, Sussanne did not
buy me a boat until it was to cold to sail, I just hope she will not
sell it before things thaw.

RB
35s5 LIS Virgin
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

The primary importance of a sailing vessel depends upon it being in the
water.
Where did your boat spend the season? Hmm?

How desperate and lame are you CJ..... at least I have the forethought to
understand that a sailboat needs to be sailed... not tied to your dock so
you look the part ...as you do. If I elect to sit a year out.... so what...
I could take 5 years and still have more talent, experience and a way better
boat than you could ever own.

CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Bobsprit claims to be a sailing enthusiast but his
priorities define him as wanting a Motorhome! He would be much better
off on
a Nordhaven Trawler


You must mean Doug, who actually spends his time on his trawler.


Woooooooooooo.... that sounds a bit "jelious" there Bobsprit.

Look... let me be a buddy and tell you to go get yourself a Nordhaven Info
Package with the DVD. You know you Wanna.......

Power Boater...... say it Bobsprit! Be Proud! Don't be like Ganz.... come
out of the closet. Just think how envious Doug would be!!!! Think about all
that HP at your finger tips... the electrical capacity to produce sufficient
power to light 2 NYC blocks alone is awesome...... and the cruising Range
alone is phenomenal.

Go on........ make the call.

CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
Just answer the question, lubber.


Simple Enough........ "Spawned in the Hot Humid Jungles of the African
Congo, Forged on the Rugged North Atlantic.... and Tempered by the Cold
Arctic Ice
I'm 5'10" & 170lbs of lean sinew, muscle and cat like reflex. I'm a natural
born Predator!! I've lived aboard and traveled more of this planet than
you'll ever see on the Discovery Channel

.. I'm FACT... and you're Fiction!!!

....and CJ... you'll never look this good doing this much in your Entire
Life!!!!

Bwahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahaahahahahaaaaa...... ...


CM

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

We are all aware that although the 35s5 has many flaws, both in design
and construction


Really? More than a Tartan 34 or J34c or other comparable vessels? Can
you list them for everyone?


RB
35s5
NY

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

Capt. Rob opined:
We are all aware that although the 35s5 has many flaws, both in design
and construction


Really? More than a Tartan 34 or J34c or other comparable vessels? Can
you list them for everyone?


RB
35s5
NY



Almost anyone could list them, but the problem is that could someone
like you who is more likely to find satisfaction with a real estate
agent than a yacht broker, understand them?

Yachts aren't supposed to be miniature floating condo's, as you suppose
them to be, they are forms of marine transport and survival.

For you, a survival crisis would seem to be an air conditioning failure
or discovering what your wife actually did for sexual relief.

Still, way back, well before I owned my first cruising yacht, I also had
a small plastic boat. It was when I was small enough for my mother to
bathe me. When I got old enough to shower, it got thrown away with the
other bath toys.

Byeee...

Big Design Flaw!!!
 

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

Yeah, we've seen your phony intro before. Not impressed in the slightest.

Aw-w-w-w-w.... don't be like that CJ.... you won't have any friends when you
grow up!!!

Oops... Too Late.... Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!

Now what to do with an old sock???? Oh yeah... tie a knot in it and let the
dogs play with it.

Heh CJ... don't let it bother you that you're not the sharpest pencil in the
box. Never mind that you're Old & Washed Up! You still provide a good
target to kick around and laugh at!

CM