Kelp! Kelp!
 

The presense of kelp should be considered when
navigating a lee shore in lighter winds.

http://life.bio.sunysb.edu/marinebio/kelpforest.html

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Pt Loma just off San Deigo has a great kelp forest. Full of otters
eating clams. Use to love to dive the kelp there. But your right, it
can stop a boat in it's track.

joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Sure does! I used to dive on them quite bit also.. when were you there? I
haven't done that in years.

I remember one time we went out in a friend Zodiac. Huge swells and people
were really getting green while struggling with their equipment. Finally, I
just grabbed the remainder of my stuff and went over the side... told my
buddy I'd meet him at 30 feet. The surge was amazing.

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Pt Loma just off San Deigo has a great kelp forest. Full of otters
eating clams. Use to love to dive the kelp there. But your right, it
can stop a boat in it's track.

joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Good point Jon. They increase swell. I've read that
ships have been lost forced into kelp beds, and some
have lost masts in the swell before being beat to pieces
on the rocks.

I wonder how many have been lost on the coast of
California because of this?

"Capt. JG" wrote
I remember one time we went out in a friend Zodiac. Huge swells and people
were really getting green while struggling with their equipment. Finally,
I just grabbed the remainder of my stuff and went over the side... told my
buddy I'd meet him at 30 feet. The surge was amazing.

"Joe" wrote
Pt Loma just off San Deigo has a great kelp forest. Full of otters
eating clams. Use to love to dive the kelp there. But your right, it
can stop a boat in it's track.

Kelp! Kelp!
 

When I was diving off Catalina, you could actually crawl across the tops of
the kelp... Don't know the numbers, but there are boats lost all the time
off SF and environs. I saw a large commercial fishing boat on its side off
Santa Cruz several years ago. They missed the entrance in the fog and ended
up on the beach.

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Good point Jon. They increase swell. I've read that
ships have been lost forced into kelp beds, and some
have lost masts in the swell before being beat to pieces
on the rocks.

I wonder how many have been lost on the coast of
California because of this?

"Capt. JG" wrote
I remember one time we went out in a friend Zodiac. Huge swells and
people were really getting green while struggling with their equipment.
Finally, I just grabbed the remainder of my stuff and went over the
side... told my buddy I'd meet him at 30 feet. The surge was amazing.

"Joe" wrote
Pt Loma just off San Deigo has a great kelp forest. Full of otters
eating clams. Use to love to dive the kelp there. But your right, it
can stop a boat in it's track.

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

No way! I was there... just barely though... left SD in 1980. Mostly, my
girlfriend and I were in Solana Beach. We had a great place on the cliffs
overlooking the ocean. Even at the top of the summer, there were just a few
people on that stretch of beach.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Joe

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My borther and his wife lived in Solano Beach. They had a condo
right at the top of the hill, north of the race track. I loved it. I used
to go to dog beach and flirt with the girls. Then they sold that and
bought an orange grove under Mt Palomar. Motorcycle heaven.
Have you been out there? They were past the Rincon Indian Res,
and north of the La Jolla Ind. Res. His oranges were huge. The
first year he didn't have his labor set up in time and the oranges
were over two pounds! So big that they would split when they
fell. Some of them were over 3 lbs.

"Capt. JG" wrote
No way! I was there... just barely though... left SD in 1980. Mostly, my
girlfriend and I were in Solana Beach. We had a great place on the cliffs
overlooking the ocean. Even at the top of the summer, there were just a
few people on that stretch of beach.

"Joe" wrote
Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Amazingly, my ex girlfriend used to live just north of the race track.. if
you turned off Via De La Valle on the road just to the north of the track
entrance and made the first left, she was in that group of condos. We had to
rescue her and her roomie during the floods of late 70s. I almost drowned by
F-250 trying to get them out, and we watched a Chevy hi-boy float away.

I used to ride my cycle out of Del Mar east... can't do that any more...
toward Mt. Pal. Those days, there was nothing out there but farms and badly
rutted dirt roads. We also used to take our weapons out there and blast
away... no one around to complain. It was the first time I fired a 44 magnum
and a 45.

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
My borther and his wife lived in Solano Beach. They had a condo
right at the top of the hill, north of the race track. I loved it. I
used
to go to dog beach and flirt with the girls. Then they sold that and
bought an orange grove under Mt Palomar. Motorcycle heaven.
Have you been out there? They were past the Rincon Indian Res,
and north of the La Jolla Ind. Res. His oranges were huge. The
first year he didn't have his labor set up in time and the oranges
were over two pounds! So big that they would split when they
fell. Some of them were over 3 lbs.

"Capt. JG" wrote
No way! I was there... just barely though... left SD in 1980. Mostly, my
girlfriend and I were in Solana Beach. We had a great place on the cliffs
overlooking the ocean. Even at the top of the summer, there were just a
few people on that stretch of beach.

"Joe" wrote
Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Kelp! Kelp!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message .

I almost drowned by F-250 trying to get them out, and we watched a Chevy
hi-boy float away.

Yuo couldn't reach the pedals on an F250

.. It was the first time I fired a 44 magnum
and a 45.

Is that why your wrists are so ....Limp????

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa....


CM

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What are you... a typo nazi or are you still stalking me?

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:uXeyf.56678$km.24373@edtnps89...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message .

I almost drowned by F-250 trying to get them out, and we watched a Chevy
hi-boy float away.

Yuo couldn't reach the pedals on an F250

. It was the first time I fired a 44 magnum
and a 45.

Is that why your wrists are so ....Limp????

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaa....


CM

Kelp! Kelp!
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

What are you... a typo nazi or are you still stalking me?

It must be your natural reflex to swallow anything placed in front of you
that makes you such an easy target on the newsgroup.... and so popular with
the gay community in your home town.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahaahaaaa....

Stalking???..... Oh that's choice there Gaylord!!

CM


CM

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Ah, so you're stalking me again... suggestion, take an anger management
class. You'll feel better.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:jzfyf.72088$m05.30449@clgrps12...
"Capt. JG" wrote in message

What are you... a typo nazi or are you still stalking me?

It must be your natural reflex to swallow anything placed in front of you
that makes you such an easy target on the newsgroup.... and so popular
with the gay community in your home town.

Bwhahahahahahahahahahahaahaaaa....

Stalking???..... Oh that's choice there Gaylord!!

CM


CM

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
No way! I was there... just barely though... left SD in 1980. Mostly, my
girlfriend and I were in Solana Beach. We had a great place on the cliffs
overlooking the ocean. Even at the top of the summer, there were just a few
people on that stretch of beach.

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we use to surf flat bottom skiff on the rollers off Pt.Loma. It was a
blast. We'd rent them from the Navy special services. I don't no how
many times we wiped out and ended up on the beach drying motors out.
Nothing like diving in a kelp forest with otters.

Coronado was something else, While practicing beach landing we would
always take seals 3 mi off and they would have to swim back. ABC school
is now a thing of the past.

Lost my High School ring tumbling down the cliffs of Blacks Beach with
a keg.

Joe




"Joe" wrote in message
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Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Hahaha... did you take the road or the goat's trail down to Blacks? Those
days a couple of people died every year doing the trail. Now, apparently,
it's got a real live stairway.

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
No way! I was there... just barely though... left SD in 1980. Mostly, my
girlfriend and I were in Solana Beach. We had a great place on the cliffs
overlooking the ocean. Even at the top of the summer, there were just a
few
people on that stretch of beach.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

we use to surf flat bottom skiff on the rollers off Pt.Loma. It was a
blast. We'd rent them from the Navy special services. I don't no how
many times we wiped out and ended up on the beach drying motors out.
Nothing like diving in a kelp forest with otters.

Coronado was something else, While practicing beach landing we would
always take seals 3 mi off and they would have to swim back. ABC school
is now a thing of the past.

Lost my High School ring tumbling down the cliffs of Blacks Beach with
a keg.

Joe




"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Back in 1979, While attending Amphibious boat coxian school on Coronodo
island.

Joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Well it was a poor goat trail. That was a great place to Hang Glide.
The first time I ever tried it was at Black's beach. They had an old
wood ramp off the cliff. I got to far away from the cliff and had to
pack the glider back to the top. But hey I landed on the beach.

Joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Wow... looks like we chewed the same dirt.. I have a great picture of a
fixed wing glider trying to land on the cliffs. He just hung there for 10
minutes trying to set down without munching it. Every once in a while,
someone would attempt to return, fail, and smash into the side of the
cliffs. We used to see people landing on the beach all the time. I always
thought it took more guts than I have to jump off a cliff. :-) Long climb
with a glider on your back!

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well it was a poor goat trail. That was a great place to Hang Glide.
The first time I ever tried it was at Black's beach. They had an old
wood ramp off the cliff. I got to far away from the cliff and had to
pack the glider back to the top. But hey I landed on the beach.

Joe

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Thas is motorcycle heaven. On the cold days I'd ride in
the desert, and on the warm day I'd ride up to the top of
the mountain.

The locals are amazing and actually get out of the way
of the bikers. I've never seen that anywhere else.

"Capt. JG" wrote
Amazingly, my ex girlfriend used to live just north of the race track.. if
you turned off Via De La Valle on the road just to the north of the track
entrance and made the first left, she was in that group of condos. We had
to rescue her and her roomie during the floods of late 70s. I almost
drowned by F-250 trying to get them out, and we watched a Chevy hi-boy
float away.

I used to ride my cycle out of Del Mar east... can't do that any more...
toward Mt. Pal. Those days, there was nothing out there but farms and
badly rutted dirt roads. We also used to take our weapons out there and
blast away... no one around to complain. It was the first time I fired a
44 magnum and a 45.

Kelp! Kelp!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Wow... looks like we chewed the same dirt.. I have a great picture of a
fixed wing glider trying to land on the cliffs. He just hung there for 10
minutes trying to set down without munching it. Every once in a while,
someone would attempt to return, fail, and smash into the side of the
cliffs.

What's better is the guy who jumps off the ramp expecting an updraft
that stopped, most times it's a sharp turn into the face and a tumble
down to the beach. I bet the tech has advanced big time since the 70's
80's with the triangle gliders.


We used to see people landing on the beach all the time. I always
thought it took more guts than I have to jump off a cliff. :-) Long climb
with a glider on your back!

It was a half day ordeal. And the view was nice.


Joe



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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well it was a poor goat trail. That was a great place to Hang Glide.
The first time I ever tried it was at Black's beach. They had an old
wood ramp off the cliff. I got to far away from the cliff and had to
pack the glider back to the top. But hey I landed on the beach.

Joe