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Capt. Rob January 6th 06 05:44 PM

I Did It!!!!
 
I managed to trade the 4HP outboard I won at the Norwalk show for an 8
HP 4 stroke plus 250 bucks! The 8 HP is a year old and was just checked
by my yard...in "new" condition!
Whoo hooo! Since the 5 HP got the dinghy to plane with me in it, what
can I expect the 8HP to do? Will it plane with two people???? I get a
lot of conflicting opinions, but I guess dinghy size and type are a
factor. Best part...no more mixing gas and oil!!!!


RB
35s5
NY


Joe January 6th 06 05:59 PM

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Damn...With that header I thought this was a suicide note!

Joe
His owner


Bluto January 6th 06 08:27 PM

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That 8 hp weighs over 40 lbs more than the 2 cycle!

Add the weight of gas!

Add the weight of you!

If the tubes on the inflatable don't extend well past the transom, you
are unbalanced!

Who gives a rat's ass about how fast an inflatable goes?

Bluto


Bob Crantz January 6th 06 08:30 PM

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Amen!



Bluto January 6th 06 09:01 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
I managed to trade the 4HP outboard I won at the Norwalk show for an 8
HP 4 stroke plus 250 bucks! The 8 HP is a year old and was just checked
by my yard...in "new" condition!
Whoo hooo! Since the 5 HP got the dinghy to plane with me in it, what
can I expect the 8HP to do? Will it plane with two people???? I get a
lot of conflicting opinions, but I guess dinghy size and type are a
factor. Best part...no more mixing gas and oil!!!!


RB
35s5
NY


The 8 HP weighs over twice the 4 HP. The weight is on the stern. You
will be on the stern steering. It isn't going to work much better. 40
pounds makes a big difference, what will the gas tank weigh? Another
40?

I hope the "tubes" on your rubber boat extend well past the transom,
otherwise you are unbalanced.

Why do you need an inflatable in the first place?

Bluto


rgnmstr January 6th 06 09:52 PM

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Why do you need an inflatable in the first place?

He needs something to step onto from the instructor's platform.


Capt. Rob January 6th 06 10:30 PM

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Why do you need an inflatable in the first place?


The last season with Alien saw a of use for the dinghy. We took a lot
of short weekend trips and anchored quite a bit. I also used the dinghy
to fish on occasion and to sneak over to Hart island for pictures. Back
at our club, where the north and south side are divided folks tend to
use the dinks to visit eachother which we also did....

Our old dinghy....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/drink1.jpg

Nicer than Scotty's boat and put a mast up and it's probably faster
too!

RB
35s5
NY


Joe January 6th 06 10:36 PM

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Looks like all yer other boat stuff...........never used, suffering
from camera flash burns.

Joe
Your Owner


Capt. Rob January 6th 06 10:51 PM

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Looks like all yer other boat stuff...........never used, suffering
from camera flash burns.


Never used? Yup....Xmas gift from my dad a few weeks ago. It's a bit
chilly to use it now.


RB
35s5...not a motorsailor like Joe's slowboat!
NY


Joe January 6th 06 11:01 PM

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Yer old dink bonehead....It looks as new as your new one, cept all the
camera flash burns. I've never seen a cleaner propellor except in the
store. You should try to use some of this crap you keep buying and
selling.

Joe
Your Owner

RedCloud~ a boat that can sail 3 knots faster than Commodes 35s5


Capt. Rob January 6th 06 11:26 PM

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I've never seen a cleaner propellor except in the
store. You should try to use some of this crap you keep buying and
selling.


The motor in the pic is new, Joe. The dinghy is actually dirty and it
took and our to scrape the bottom clean.
Man, you lose every point! Is there a hole in your racket???

RB
35s5...better than any French motorsailor Joe happens to own!
NY


[email protected] January 6th 06 11:44 PM

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Crappy inflatable. Hard to store, tows poorly, cant be rowed.
Boobsprit needs a REAL dinghy like mine. I built a custom nesting
dinghy that fits on my foredeck and is so light I can pick it up out of
the water easily. It rows so well I have no need for a motor.


[email protected] January 6th 06 11:53 PM

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Just another crappy inflatable. Capt Boobs oughta just use it fer a
toboggan cuz we all know he never really sails.


Joe January 7th 06 12:49 AM

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Oh I see, the top looks new, the engine is new, yet the bottom is
encrusted from non-use..

Bwahahahahahaha

The only thing french is your cheap production boat.

I know for a fact my boat was buildt in England bonehead.
Even have the original British coins still under her masts.

Joe
Your owner


Capt. Rob January 7th 06 01:15 AM

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Oh I see, the top looks new, the engine is new, yet the bottom is
encrusted from non-use..


You must take awful care of stuff. My friends Rendova dinghy has been
used heavily for 4 seasons and it still looks new. That's because
he....listen carefully now....WASHES it. It's a technique used by
sailors in the know and that's why my 2 year old Quicksilver still
looks nice and clean in the pic. Funny thing about these blow up boats,
you can keep them clean with a little effort!
Much to my surprise the bottom had become a farm and I needed an ice
scraper to get the barnacles off. That left stains on the underside. No
matter, we'll prep the bottom of the new dinghy.

RB
35s5....not a motorsailor thank god!
NY


[email protected] January 7th 06 01:20 AM

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My god, another crappy unflatable. Hard to stow, hard to inflate, wont
row at all, requires gas, gets holes, you need a real dinghy like mine.
It is a custom built 9' nesting dinghy that fits just right on my
foredeck and is so light I can lift it with one hand. It rows so well
I dont need a motor.
Since you do so little sailing, you might as well use that inflatable
as a toboggan.


Capt. Rob January 7th 06 01:23 AM

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Your boat was absolutely NOT built in England.



Nope, still worse, Joe has forgotten than he e-mailed me pics of his
boat some time ago and admitted she was not built here where he claims.

This is very embarassing for him. Not to mention that the thing is a
bloody motorsailor that can't get out it's way in anything short 25
knots. It's barely faster than a Fisher 37, though lacking the charm
and quality of that boat.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob January 7th 06 01:43 AM

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My god, another crappy unflatable. Hard to stow, hard to inflate, wont

row at all, requires gas, gets holes, you need a real dinghy like mine.

It is a custom built 9' nesting dinghy that fits just right on my

Your dinghy, like any small hard model, is not safe for toddlers. Our
inflatable is larger, more stable (by FAR) and has more capacity (by
FAR) and it's an air deck that stows BELOW deck in our sail locker.
Having a dinghy on deck is just windage and also ugly on a small boat.
Of course we can also carry ours on deck, so all you have is an
unstable, low capacity dink. Sorry you're unable to row an inflatable.
I've yet to put a hole in a dinghy...not easy to do, unless you're
attacked by stingrays? Also sorry you find it hard to inflate
one...just how OLD are you???
PS: I also own The Dink, stored in PA for my son....and it has a
sailing rig.

Keep trying, mister tired cheap boat sailor...with no pics!


RB
35s5
NY


Scotty January 7th 06 02:04 AM

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"Swab Rob" wrote

Today I tied my own shoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



With no help from Sudsy?

Congrats.

SV



[email protected] January 7th 06 02:56 AM

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Actually, my nesting dink IS bigger than your inflatable and cannot
sink. As my 3 kids have been able to swim like fish since they were
tiny, I really dont worry about them and the dink


Capt. Rob January 7th 06 03:06 AM

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Actually, my nesting dink IS bigger than your inflatable and cannot
sink. As my 3 kids have been able to swim like fish since they were
tiny, I really dont worry about them and the dink


Bad answer. A toddler is only able to swim for short periods, and quite
poorly when the water is below 50 degrees. In addition your dink will
ride too low in the water to bail properly in any kind of chop. Not the
case with the inflatable. Our dinghy can also carry 1100 lbs and handle
a 9.9 HP for speeds to 20 knots. In an emergency the inflatable in more
versatile, can be left inflated or stowed and just does more, carries
more and has more stowage options. Of course it costs more. Typically a
low end inflatable and 8 HP will set you back 3K. Clearly that's why
you don't have one. And as I said, I have a very nice little 8 foot
sailing/rowing dink as well.
Once again you find yourself coming up short....WAY short!


RB
35s5
NY


[email protected] January 7th 06 03:13 AM

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Kids, and you should always wear lifejackets in the dink. My dink is
more than 9' long and has far more freeboard than your inflatable. She
will take up to a 6 hp motor but I have no reason to use one. My dink
can be ready to use in much less time than it takes to inflate one (I
know, I have used inflatables) and be back on deck within a few minutes
she is so light. An inflatable is simply a poor unimaginative and
ill-thought choice.


Capt.Mooron January 7th 06 03:15 AM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
My god, another crappy unflatable. Hard to stow, hard to inflate, wont
row at all, requires gas, gets holes, you need a real dinghy like mine.
It is a custom built 9' nesting dinghy that fits just right on my
foredeck and is so light I can lift it with one hand. It rows so well
I dont need a motor.
Since you do so little sailing, you might as well use that inflatable
as a toboggan.


Oh **** Off you Dork!

You panty waisted, nesting dinghy, hard shell, oh you can't row it, boo hoo
hoo it might pop a leak, cry baby pseudo purists make me want to PUKE!

You know down deep you'd drop a pant load just to get your hands on a 2
cycle 15HP Merc mounted to the stern of a 7.5' RIB Inflatable. You have wet
dreams about anchoring your sailboat, jumping into your high powered
inflatable dinghy and while standing knee deep in dive gear... grab the bow
line .... crank the mother-****er on to step in 2 boat lengths and see that
bottom only 6 ft below you scream by enroute to your dive spot!

Look..... everybody thinks a nice hand built wooden pram is a thing of
beauty... but it has no business being towed by a sailboat. On deck they
take up valuable space and you ain't got much real estate on the shrimp
bucket you own!

Think for a second how stupid a hard shell dinghy would look on the deck of
that floating plastic condo Bobsprit has!!! There is barely enough space to
accommodate Bobsprit's massive girth... let alone a huge carbuncle lashed
topside!! He'd be the laughing stock of the LIS!!! It would be like having a
huge stern ladder mounted!

Now something I've been meaning to mention to you.... don't ever try and
pawn off your area as wilderness.... you sail in shallow flats and there is
a bar , resort or marina within a few hours of any location. You want
wilderness... try no radio contact and seeing one other boat in 2 weeks. You
pussy Florida sailors make me laugh when you go on about sailing every day.

CM



[email protected] January 7th 06 03:36 AM

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Goin east, closest marina is 68 miles, West 40 miles. I'd be perfectly
happy to put you ashore in the swamps here and see if you could get
home.
I thought Bubbles WAS the laughingstock of LIS.
No, my dink is not a wooden beauty cuz unpainted wood doesnt last long
in the sun here. Its simply painted with cheap oars (oars get banged
up real easy)
Yes, I do want a power boat so now I am building a Tolman Skiff (google
it)
Yer takin this whole thing way too serious.


Bluto January 7th 06 03:48 AM

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
My god, another crappy unflatable. Hard to stow, hard to inflate, wont
row at all, requires gas, gets holes, you need a real dinghy like mine.
It is a custom built 9' nesting dinghy that fits just right on my
foredeck and is so light I can lift it with one hand. It rows so well
I dont need a motor.
Since you do so little sailing, you might as well use that inflatable
as a toboggan.


Oh **** Off you Dork!

You panty waisted, nesting dinghy, hard shell, oh you can't row it, boo hoo
hoo it might pop a leak, cry baby pseudo purists make me want to PUKE!

You know down deep you'd drop a pant load just to get your hands on a 2
cycle 15HP Merc mounted to the stern of a 7.5' RIB Inflatable. You have wet
dreams about anchoring your sailboat, jumping into your high powered
inflatable dinghy and while standing knee deep in dive gear... grab the bow
line .... crank the mother-****er on to step in 2 boat lengths and see that
bottom only 6 ft below you scream by enroute to your dive spot!

Look..... everybody thinks a nice hand built wooden pram is a thing of
beauty... but it has no business being towed by a sailboat. On deck they
take up valuable space and you ain't got much real estate on the shrimp
bucket you own!

Think for a second how stupid a hard shell dinghy would look on the deck of
that floating plastic condo Bobsprit has!!! There is barely enough space to
accommodate Bobsprit's massive girth... let alone a huge carbuncle lashed
topside!! He'd be the laughing stock of the LIS!!! It would be like having a
huge stern ladder mounted!

Now something I've been meaning to mention to you.... don't ever try and
pawn off your area as wilderness.... you sail in shallow flats and there is
a bar , resort or marina within a few hours of any location. You want
wilderness... try no radio contact and seeing one other boat in 2 weeks. You
pussy Florida sailors make me laugh when you go on about sailing every day.

CM


You are the pansy. You never sailed Hudson Bay. You never sailed Baffin
Island. You smoke pole.


Capt.Mooron January 7th 06 06:55 AM

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wrote in message

Yer takin this whole thing way too serious.


That very statement illustrates the abysmal depth of your confusion as to
who is what......

CM



Capt.Mooron January 7th 06 03:18 PM

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"Bluto" wrote in message

You are the pansy. You never sailed Hudson Bay. You never sailed Baffin
Island. You smoke pole.


Sailed.... ???
I sailed the Beaufort and parts of the Northwest Passage. Been on Hudson Bay
in a boat many times, Baffin Island as well up around Arctic Bay & Igloolik

Smoke Pole?????????

CM



Capt. Rob January 7th 06 03:45 PM

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Smoke Pole?????????



Bluto admitted to being gay some time back and occasionally makes a
grotesque comment as above.


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart January 7th 06 05:33 PM

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Nutsy,

The Inflatable can also be partially deflated, rolled and tied unto the
foredeck as easily as a nestling dink. With a good electric pump can be
inflated easier than putting a nesting dingy together.

Neither one does little to improve the appearance and clutter of the
foredeck. That is why I have two clips on my stern pulpit an a line off
my back stay and carry my inflatable there. Also is a convenent place
the carry a portable ice box, a big thermos of coffee and a six pack of
beer. Keeps the Cockpit clear.

Ole Thom



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


J Beck January 7th 06 08:38 PM

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Capt. Rob January 8th 06 06:53 AM

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The Inflatable can also be partially deflated, rolled and tied unto the

foredeck as easily as a nestling dink. With a good electric pump can be

inflated easier than putting a nesting dingy together.


That's true, Thom. It scares me when some guy starts yapping about
running aground 75% of the time, little kids that swim "well" and a
tender little dink that can barely handle the weight of two adults and
kids. I had a walker bay 10 at one point and everyone hated it compared
to the inflatable. It's very hard to swamp or capsize the inflatable of
course. We nearly bought a porta bote, but after putting one together a
few times, we just didn't like it, though it's still better than Mr.
S2's dink.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron January 9th 06 04:19 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

That's true, Thom. It scares me when some guy starts yapping about
running aground 75% of the time, little kids that swim "well" and a
tender little dink that can barely handle the weight of two adults and
kids. I had a walker bay 10 at one point and everyone hated it compared
to the inflatable. It's very hard to swamp or capsize the inflatable of
course. We nearly bought a porta bote, but after putting one together a
few times, we just didn't like it, though it's still better than Mr.
S2's dink.


What a load of frickin' hog**** Bobsprit... there is nothing "dangerous"
about a hard shell unless you sail a sewer like the LIS and live in abject
fear of being contaminated by contact with the water. [Which Makes the swim
platform on your 35s5 ludicrous]. Kids learn to handle boats by being on
them... a roll into the water in Florida won't kill you.... it might in the
LIS. A person of your massive girth and weight needs something like a 14
foot inflatable or an 18 ft single hand Dory to transport your bulk. Since
you couldn't possibly lift your ponderous mass up onto the boat without
tearing out hand rails, stanchions and ligaments... a "swim platform" could
be tax deductible as a handicapped access.

It's a damn good thing you don't use your inflatable dinghy and stay safely
tied to a dock.

CM



Capt. Rob January 9th 06 04:27 PM

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What a load of frickin' hog**** Bobsprit... there is nothing
"dangerous"
about a hard shell unless you sail a sewer like the LIS


I guess Mooron's troll would actually have merit if there was much
truth to it. 4 kids drowned in a small dink two winters back here. The
boat had a crack in it, filled and the positive flotation could not
protect them from the feezing waters. They all died. My inflatable
would never have sank. Period.
Also: Kids fool around, elderly folks have lapses in balance.....and a
hard dink is not friendly to that. In addition to that a hard dink
carries way less, fewer people just can't match the inlfatable in any
way. Have both...but being sensible we use the safer inflatable until
the waters warm up a bit.

A person of your massive girth and weight needs something like a 14
foot inflatable or an 18 ft single hand Dory to transport your bulk.


209 lbs this morning, Mooron. I'm 6'3. I also ran three miles this
morning before the sun was up while your viens were still drying out.
I'm your superior in every way, Mooron. I'm stronger, faster....and I
have a nicer boat that is also stronger and faster and doesn't have a
poorly made interior that you yourself wrote about!!!


RB
35s5
NY


[email protected] January 9th 06 06:34 PM

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My nesting dinghy is overall a little more than 9' long but has a flat
bow so she has huge amounts of room. Although she is very light and
easy to put together, I realize I coulda made her smaller cuz she is
almost too big. She has much more freeboard than an inflatable and
will take an outboard although she rows and tracks so well that there
is no need. I am certain I can have my dinghy in the water and
assembled and be halfway to shore before Rob can even find the valve on
his inflatable.
My kids are used to both canoes and kayaks and the dink is more stable
than either. However, I am worried about Robs kid as Rob seems to
imply that kids there do not wear lifejackets in the dink. Darwinism
in action I s'pose.
I agree that a nesting dink would not improve the looks of The Cheap
French Whore and since he never leaves the dock this is a major
consideration.


Scotty January 9th 06 07:20 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...
My nesting dinghy is overall a little more than 9' long but has

a flat
bow so she has huge amounts of room. Although she is very

light and
easy to put together, I realize I coulda made her smaller cuz

she is
almost too big. She has much more freeboard than an inflatable

and
will take an outboard although she rows and tracks so well that

there
is no need. I am certain I can have my dinghy in the water and
assembled and be halfway to shore before Rob can even find the

valve on
his inflatable.



bet he still beats you to land.

SV



[email protected] January 9th 06 08:16 PM

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Cuz he never leaves the dock


Capt.Mooron January 9th 06 08:30 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
I guess Mooron's troll would actually have merit if there was much
truth to it. 4 kids drowned in a small dink two winters back here. The
boat had a crack in it, filled and the positive flotation could not
protect them from the feezing waters. They all died. My inflatable
would never have sank. Period.
Also: Kids fool around, elderly folks have lapses in balance.....and a
hard dink is not friendly to that. In addition to that a hard dink
carries way less, fewer people just can't match the inlfatable in any
way. Have both...but being sensible we use the safer inflatable until
the waters warm up a bit.


What a complete Crock!.... a total deviation from the facts and a feeble
attempt to redirect the issue. If by some insane and idiotic idea you
consider the variable of climate to the relative merits of safety in a small
boat.... you're delusional and off topic ... pointing out the obvious and
feigning intellect.

Here... I'll spell it out for you since as of late you seem to be having
difficulty following a discussion..... An inflatable can as easily suffer
irrepairable damage that floods the vessel.... you should be properly
dressed for existing conditions!!

You're as lame as dbohara....

209 lbs this morning, Mooron. I'm 6'3. I also ran three miles this
morning before the sun was up while your viens were still drying out.
I'm your superior in every way, Mooron. I'm stronger, faster....and I
have a nicer boat that is also stronger and faster and doesn't have a
poorly made interior that you yourself wrote about!!!


Here Bobsprit... Pull my Finger...

Your ass is an axe handle wide and your inner thighs have chafe burns from
your many three mile waddles to the fridge.....

CM



Capt.Mooron January 9th 06 08:32 PM

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"Scotty" wrote in message

bet he still beats you to land.


Not at the speed Bobsprit waddles..... it's still at least 30 feet down a
dock!

CM



Bart Senior January 9th 06 09:09 PM

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Is that what he names his boat? "Cheap French
Whore" I was hoping "Brown Stain" would win out.


wrote
I agree that a nesting dink would not improve the looks of "The Cheap
French Whore" and since he never leaves the dock this is a major
consideration.




Bart Senior January 9th 06 09:17 PM

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It seems Swab has never used an inflatble either.

I never should have given him that old Avon with the
transom missing. I told him it was not repairable.

Someday, he'll get in an inflatable and try rowing it.

I can see his obituary now..."Lame overweight Swabbie
carried out to sea on inflatable dink when his outboard
failed. Unable to row against prevailing winds. Not
carrying an anchor or hand held VHF. Not seen alive
again."

"Swabbie Robbie" wrote in message
In addition to that a hard dink
carries way less, fewer people just can't match the inlfatable in any
way. Have both...but being sensible we use the safer inflatable until
the waters warm up a bit.





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