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No kindergartner crap like the commodes been flushing.

Question:

Every American kid knows how to find the big dipper, part of the great
bear (Uras Major).

The two second magnitude stars that form the outer part of the bowl of
the big dipper are often called the pointers. Why?

Joe

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Joe wrote:
No kindergartner crap like the commodes been flushing.

Question:

Every American kid knows how to find the big dipper, part of the great
bear (Uras Major).

The two second magnitude stars that form the outer part of the bowl of
the big dipper are often called the pointers. Why?

Joe

They point to the north star (Polaris).

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Very good gaz.

Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.

This is part of what constellation?

How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?
Name them..

Joe

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Wrong my boot licking bitch.

Put on your dunce cap, go to the corner and drink a huge glass of
razorblade water.

Joe
Your owner

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After help you guess one of the three questions after studying your
telescope star finder charts.

Now answer the questions that pretain to Navigation.............. you
dunce.

And when you do... head in the same direction with less curveature and
you hit the second brigest star in the heavens.

Name it............ And whats false about it?

Is it in the Daily Almanic?

Joe
Your owner

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I know it's inane in your view...I mean why bother with the major stars
used in celestial navigation in this part of the world Dave?

...You have a pocket GPS and will remain a weekend warrior. Thats OK...
but let real sailors talk about ancient maritine skills you will never
master.

And as far as the commode goes, I answered his lame seabouy question
first. Gaz answered his other question .....so why should I bother?

Joe

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So inane you had no clue mr quatermaster checker. Bwahahahahahahaha.

Don't worry you will never have a need.

Next


Joe

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In article .com,
Joe wrote:
No kindergartner crap like the commodes been flushing.

Question:

Every American kid knows how to find the big dipper, part of the great
bear (Uras Major).

The two second magnitude stars that form the outer part of the bowl of
the big dipper are often called the pointers. Why?


A line between them points to Polaris (approximately).
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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Very good Jon,


Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.


This is part of what constellation?


How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?

Name them..


Joe

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Thats is because you are short sighted, and you assume everyone knows
this little bit of information. I've heard people swear you follow the
handle of the big Dipper to get to Polaris the north star. Some
children may "google" in search of information and be brought to asa,
and learn so much they win the olympics in 2018, and then the America's
cup.

Why do you have to **** all over my fire?

Perhaps you should add something to the question to make it worthy of
someone of your status. Like ....Why is Polaris important to know when
navigating?

Joe

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In article .com,
Joe wrote:
Very good Jon,


Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.


This is part of what constellation?


How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?

Name them..

I'd have to look it up.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Joe wrote:
Very good gaz.

Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.

This is part of what constellation?

How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?
Name them..

Joe

Tough one, Orion (The Hunter), Sirius (one of the dog stars), is it
Canis Minor?

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The triangle is in Canis Minor. Only one star in the triangle is listed
in the daily almanac. What is its name and where is it in the triangle?

Once you fine it keep heading the same direction from orions belt with
just a bit less curve in your path.

You will come to the second brightest star in the sky..Name it. What is
it's negative magnitude?

Joe

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article .com,
Joe wrote:

Very good Jon,


Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.


This is part of what constellation?


How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?

Name them..


I'd have to look it up.

I'm in the look up phase too. When doing astro, my routine was (because
I don't do it anymore) to shoot the five or six first stars I saw at
twilight then whip out the star globe and figure out which they were
prior to running the calcs (marc St. Hilaire method)using HO 229 or 249.
That is how I was taught (pre calculator).

This constellation stuff is not navigation, it's astrology or astronomy
or something.


Of course my favourite fix was equal altitudes at lunch. Anyone know
what that is and why navigators like it?

Gaz

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Very good gaz.

Now follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars.

This is part of what constellation?

It depends ...


If you curve SouthEastwards, then you will meet Beta Monoceros, which is the
bottom right star of an equilateral triangle. Alternatively you might
come to another equilateral triangle in Canis Major which consists of
Wessen, Adhara and Aludra.


How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?
Name them..



No Idea!!! Good question.


I like to see BB squirming in the effluent of his ignorance. Well done!



Regards


Donal
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You have to be able to ID stars to shot them.

Of course my favourite fix was equal altitudes at lunch. Anyone know
what that is and why navigators like it?


Gaz


The sun near local apparent noon appears not to change altitude,
sometimes for three minutes or more. The length of time of ambiguity is
related to the zenith distance between the observer and the sun---the
greater the distance, the longer the episode of ambiguity. During this
period it is not possible to know the exact moment of LAN, which means
that it is not possible to know the longitude of the boat, it being
dependent on accurate GMT.

If, however, you take a sextant shot well before noon, when the sun is
clearly increasing in altitude, then after noon reset your sextant to
precisely the same altitude and wait for the sun to come to the horizon
in your sextant, the time of local apparent noon will be precisely half
the time between the two sights of equal altitutude, added to the time
of the first sight. If several sets of equal altitudes are taken, an
average of the estimates of local apparent noon will be obtained.

The Admiralty Manual of Navigation devotes a chapter to equal
altitudes. I have used this technique over the years in long zenith
distances (46 degrees) and short (12 degrees), with excellent results.

Joe

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Well Done Donal it is in Canis major, and you named the star.

Now find which is in the daily almanac

Once you find it keep heading the same direction from orions belt with
just a bit less curve in your path.

You will come to the second brightest star in the sky..Name it. What is

it's negative magnitude?

Joe

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Joe wrote:
You have to be able to ID stars to shot them.

Of course my favourite fix was equal altitudes at lunch. Anyone know
what that is and why navigators like it?


Gaz


The sun near local apparent noon appears not to change altitude,
sometimes for three minutes or more. The length of time of ambiguity is
related to the zenith distance between the observer and the sun---the
greater the distance, the longer the episode of ambiguity. During this
period it is not possible to know the exact moment of LAN, which means
that it is not possible to know the longitude of the boat, it being
dependent on accurate GMT.

If, however, you take a sextant shot well before noon, when the sun is
clearly increasing in altitude, then after noon reset your sextant to
precisely the same altitude and wait for the sun to come to the horizon
in your sextant, the time of local apparent noon will be precisely half
the time between the two sights of equal altitutude, added to the time
of the first sight. If several sets of equal altitudes are taken, an
average of the estimates of local apparent noon will be obtained.

The Admiralty Manual of Navigation devotes a chapter to equal
altitudes. I have used this technique over the years in long zenith
distances (46 degrees) and short (12 degrees), with excellent results.

Joe

I used two sextants, one for the equal altitudes to give longitude and
the other for merpass and latitude. The easiest fix of the day!

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message

Any minute now the other half of Mooron Joe, who is known as Mooron Aerts,
is
going to chime in that Polaris is a brand of snowmobile.

Heh.... it's the choice of most Inuit in Kugluktuk!

CM

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Since no one got it compeletly I will provide you the answers.

The pointers do point to polaris

If you follow orions belt in a curved line SE to Sirius you hit a
nearly
equalateral triangle of Stars in the canis minor constellation.



How many stars in this triangle are listed in the Nautical Almanac?

1

Name them.. Only Adhara the western most star of the triangle is in the
daily almanac

Keep heading in the same direction from Orion's belt and you will find
Canopus the second brightest star in the sky with a negative magnatude
of (-0.9)

Whats false about it?

Canopus is part of a triangle that cover the false southern cross.

Joe

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Joe wrote:

The two second magnitude stars that form the outer part of the bowl of
the big dipper are often called the pointers. Why?

'Cos they point at Polaris.


--
Capt Scumbalino

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Donal wrote:


Here is a photo that I took last winter. Everything in the photo is the
"middle" star of the sword of Orion. I expect to get a much better
photograph in the next few weeks!! http://www.lanode.com/priv/M42.jpg


Hey Donal! That's a pretty good picture of the Orion Nebula. For a
really cool picture of the same object try
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg...._1875_10575855

Cheers
Marty

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Donal wrote:


Here is a photo that I took last winter. Everything in the photo is the
"middle" star of the sword of Orion. I expect to get a much better
photograph in the next few weeks!! http://www.lanode.com/priv/M42.jpg


Hey Donal! That's a pretty good picture of the Orion Nebula. For a
really cool picture of the same object try
http://us.st11.yimg.com/store1.yimg...._1875_10575855

It is a wonderful image, but I would love to know the details of that
photo(camera, lens, etc?). It looks like a composite to me, and it also
looks like it has been treated with "Neat Image".

Do you have any info about the image?

Regards


Donal
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I expect to get a much better
photograph in the next few weeks!! http://www.lanode.com/priv/M42.jpg

I hope so, There is a big blob of light that makes it hard to see
Orions belt, Can't you fix that?

Have you got the better picture yet?

I sold my telescope on e-bay..Just no room on the boat and hard to
focus while rocking.

Joe

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Donal wrote:


It is a wonderful image, but I would love to know the details of that
photo(camera, lens, etc?). It looks like a composite to me, and it also
looks like it has been treated with "Neat Image".

Do you have any info about the image?

I concur, but alas have no further info.

Cheers
Martin

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Yeah I knew that Donal, just did not have the room aboard to stow it.
Always worried about it getting knocked around and keeping it in
storage was just to much hassle. Ill stick to maintaining my boat as a
hobby.

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Yeah I knew that Donal, just did not have the room aboard to stow it.
Always worried about it getting knocked around and keeping it in
storage was just to much hassle. Ill stick to maintaining my boat as a
hobby.

You can have almost as much fun with binoculars!


I'm struggling at the moment with Sailing, Astronomy and Music. The result
is that I have done less sailing than usual. It breaks my heart, but the
reality is that you don't have enough time to do everything.



Regards


Donal
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In article ,
Donal wrote:
I'm struggling at the moment with Sailing, Astronomy and Music. The result
is that I have done less sailing than usual. It breaks my heart, but the
reality is that you don't have enough time to do everything.

You have your priorities screwed up!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Donut" wrote


I'll get things sorted out when my teenage sons are out of my
hair.


At least you still have your hair, poor Bob will be a complete
cue ball by the time his kid reaches 6.

SBV