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"Maxprop" wrote in me


Good grief! You really ARE a moron. Have no fear, Jeffy. If
you continue
to
bull**** yourself into "not getting it", there's a pretty
good chance you
never
will. Your ignorance will be safe.

Thanks, Rudeclod. A personal attack is always a cry of
"uncle."


you know you've really trounced him when he posts your home
address.

Scotty

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote i

Care to translate your "bandwidth" analogy into English?

Not having to have three jobs to make ends meet, so that
they
actually have
time to spend with the kids.


Three jobs? Why would they need 3 jobs? When we planned to
have
kids we decided that Mom would not work till the kids were at
least 14 YO. Sure this meant sailing a Mac instead of a
Swan,
driving a Dodge van instead of a Beemer, but you've got to
get
your priorities straight.
Too many have it the wrong way today.

Perhaps you weren't working a $6/hr. job, Scoot.

Point noted.

SV

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Well, that was going to be my point, you *don't have to*
spend
your own money. Seems like the better teachers do. Lisa is
constantly buying stuff for 'her kids',

Dinner, drinks, dancing? Gotta watch those promiscuous 15 year
old boys.

and yes, I complain about
it,

Think of it this way--when the dust settles you've got first
book and TV
mini-series rights. g


Maybe I could get some sleep then.

SV

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"Commode Joe Redcloud" wrote


you know you've really trounced him when he posts your home
address.

Scotty


Of course when your home address is in Mohnton, Pennsylvania,
and your wife is a
fat crack whore with rotten teeth and scabs on her scabs, you
grasp at whatever
validation you can get.


Commode Joe



See. he's about to blow.


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Maxprop wrote:
It would be difficult to feel anything but vindicated when debating anyone
so blatantly arrogant and self-important.

I dunno, you're not really that bad.

... Ad hominem attacks are tantamount
to admitting you have no argument; an admission of defeat. When your debate
fails, attack the opponent, right?


That's why you attacked me, claiming that I am always using
insults, right?

DSK

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Perhaps you believe that my pointing out your errors is the same as
insulting you? You simply have repeated this "ad-hominem" stuff so often
that you believe it yourself. Now let's see the proof: quote at least
three of my insults to you in the past month. Last time I challenged you
to do so, you were rather quiet for a few days.


Maxprop wrote:
12/14 8:35pm to Maxprop: " . . . don't you neo-cons usually dismiss this
kind of stuff with a laugh?"


Is that an insult? You are a neo-conservative, and as a
political group they are always crying about junk science
this and unproven that, and trying to cut off gov't funding
for research they disapprove of.


12/19 8:18pm to Dave: "Where you were ridiculed constantly for being so
gullible and dumb?"


That *after* he'd already insulted me several times and
topped it off by jumping in with your claim that I often
insult him.



12?20 6:48pm to Maxprop: "You're just PO'd because you always feel like a
dumb jerk . .and rightly so . . .when trying to argue with me."


Ditto above.

Shall I continue?


If you feel justified in doing so... all you've shown is
that I insulted you once after you started this thread, in
which you've presented no facts but attacked me several
times. In other words, a statement of fact- you must really
feel like a dumb jerk or you wouldn't be whining like this.

Next?

DSK

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Commode Joe Redcloud" wrote


you know you've really trounced him when he posts your home
address.

Scotty


Of course when your home address is in Mohnton, Pennsylvania,
and your wife is a
fat crack whore with rotten teeth and scabs on her scabs, you
grasp at whatever
validation you can get.


Commode Joe



See. he's about to blow.

Think he'll convert back to Binary Bill the Idiot?

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Maxprop wrote:
It would be difficult to feel anything but vindicated when debating
anyone so blatantly arrogant and self-important.

I dunno, you're not really that bad.

... Ad hominem attacks are tantamount to admitting you have no argument;
an admission of defeat. When your debate fails, attack the opponent,
right?


That's why you attacked me, claiming that I am always using insults,
right?

You really do need to step back and take a look at your own posting habits,
Doug. You obviously aren't going to believe Dave or me w/r/t this issue.
Perhaps you'll believe your own eyes.

Max

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:19:45 -0500, DSK said:

That's why you attacked me, claiming that I am always using
insults, right?

Well, maybe Max overstated the case in using the word "always."

That is true. What I was implying is that when Doug and I have a
particularly poignant disagreement over an issue, he resorts to ad hominems
and insults. Perhaps "always" is an overstatement, but there are relatively
few times when he fails to engage in such attacks under those circumstances.
Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint. Doug could learn from him.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
You really do need to step back and take a look at your own posting habits,
Doug.

Why? Maybe I post too much?

... You obviously aren't going to believe Dave or me w/r/t this issue.
Perhaps you'll believe your own eyes.


I would believe you or Dave if you could quote some time
when I actually insulted you... especially if it was
*before* you started whining about how I always insult you.

BTW when did calling you a neo-conservative become an
insult? You used to be proud of being one.

DSK

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"Maxprop" wrote

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently
he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

I noticed that too. He must finally be gettin some.

;)

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BTW when did calling you a neo-conservative become an
insult? You used to be proud of being one.


Dave wrote:
Perhaps the problem is not in the particular use of the term, but in the
assumption that calling someone a name is an adequate substitute for
reasoned argument.

???

It wasn't.

Although I suppose that Maxprop ranting about how I only get
info from far-left liberal biased sources doesn't count?

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Perhaps you believe that my pointing out your errors is the same as
insulting you? You simply have repeated this "ad-hominem" stuff so often
that you believe it yourself. Now let's see the proof: quote at least
three of my insults to you in the past month. Last time I challenged you
to do so, you were rather quiet for a few days.


Maxprop wrote:
12/14 8:35pm to Maxprop: " . . . don't you neo-cons usually dismiss
this kind of stuff with a laugh?"


Is that an insult? You are a neo-conservative, and as a political group
they are always crying about junk science this and unproven that, and
trying to cut off gov't funding for research they disapprove of.

Of course it's an insult. The implication was derogatory, despite your
attempt to whitewash it.

12/19 8:18pm to Dave: "Where you were ridiculed constantly for being so
gullible and dumb?"


That *after* he'd already insulted me several times and topped it off by
jumping in with your claim that I often insult him.

At least you now acknowledge that you did insult him. That's a start,
despite your claim that "he hit me first, Mommy."

12?20 6:48pm to Maxprop: "You're just PO'd because you always feel like
a dumb jerk . .and rightly so . . .when trying to argue with me."


Ditto above.

Shall I continue?


If you feel justified in doing so...

The request for verification was yours. If proving you wrong is
justification of something, so be it.

all you've shown is that I insulted you once after you started this
thread,

We seem to be making progress.

in which you've presented no facts but attacked me several times.

I debated your argument only. You, however, do seem to get your undies in a
twist when someone doubts the purportedly 'factual' nature of your opinions.
This is Usenet (read: entertainment), Doug, not a Senate hearing. No one
wishes to verify your research, and no one expects you to verify theirs.
What is presented here is *opinion,* almost never verifiable fact. So voice
your opinions and stop being so indignant when someone disagrees with them.

In other words, a statement of fact- you must really feel like a dumb jerk
or you wouldn't be whining like this.

Proving you to be inconsistent and/or in denial w/r/t attacks on other
posters is hardly "whining." But you must certainly be awash in self-doubt
to attack your debaters so vigorously.

But I really don't care, Doug. If you want to debate issues and keep your
emotions under your hat, that's fine with me. If not, that's fine, too.
Your call.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
... If you want to debate issues and keep your
emotions under your hat, that's fine with me. If not, that's fine, too.
Your call.

I *was* debating the issues until you started whining about
how I always throw insults.

Do you regard this as a clever tactic to distract everyone
from your lack of facts & logic relevant to the issue under
debate?

DSK

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Hahahaaa.... now, if we could just get Dave to listen to someone other than
Rush.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently
he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

I noticed that too. He must finally be gettin some.

;)

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:47:08 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

Jeez, he's been in my KF for months. You mean I should take him out of it?

Absolutely. He's the new and improved Jon Ganz. I've had a number of
rational, reasonable discussions with him.

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Maxprop wrote:
... If you want to debate issues and keep your
emotions under your hat, that's fine with me. If not, that's fine, too.
Your call.

I *was* debating the issues until you started whining about how I always
throw insults.

Do you regard this as a clever tactic to distract everyone from your lack
of facts & logic relevant to the issue under debate?

Nope. I don't regard this as a tactic at all, clever or otherwise. Rather
it's an attempt to get another Usenet contributor to examine his own
behavior and perhaps modify it in such a manner as to generate less
antipathy on the part of others. If you were stupid and obtuse I wouldn't
bother. But it would be a shame to ignore you in a debate simply because
you can't control your temper and restrain yourself from throwing ad
hominems every which way.

Dave sees it as well. Of course you can adopt the belief that the rest of
the platoon is out of step and only you are marching correctly if it suits
you.

Max

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Scary isn't it. It must be the sailing. There's no other explanation.

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:47:08 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

Jeez, he's been in my KF for months. You mean I should take him out of
it?

Absolutely. He's the new and improved Jon Ganz. I've had a number of
rational, reasonable discussions with him.

Max

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You boys need a time out.

3 days till Christmas. Santa's checking his list....twice!

Scotty



"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Perhaps you believe that my pointing out your errors is the
same as

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:47:08 GMT, "Maxprop"
said:

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

Jeez, he's been in my KF for months. You mean I should take him out of
it?

Absolutely. He's the new and improved Jon Ganz. I've had a number of
rational, reasonable discussions with him.

Max

Scary isn't it. It must be the sailing. There's no other explanation.

That, and I just assumed you got weary of being lambasted constantly.
Usenet is, in it's current permutation, intended as entertainment. A lot of
yelling, screaming, and elevated blood pressure becomes fatiguing and boring
after a while.

Max

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
You boys need a time out.

3 days till Christmas. Santa's checking his list....twice!

I have a Notre Dame hockey t-shirt with a drawing of a goalie, in full gear,
on the back. Beneath is the adage: "Every year Santa checks for naughty
and nice. This year check him back."

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:47:08 GMT, "Maxprop"
said:

Formerly Jon responded to arguments similarly, but recently he's been a
model of reasonability and restraint.

Jeez, he's been in my KF for months. You mean I should take him out of
it?

Absolutely. He's the new and improved Jon Ganz. I've had a number of
rational, reasonable discussions with him.

Max

Scary isn't it. It must be the sailing. There's no other explanation.

That, and I just assumed you got weary of being lambasted constantly.
Usenet is, in it's current permutation, intended as entertainment. A lot
of yelling, screaming, and elevated blood pressure becomes fatiguing and
boring after a while.

Not sure what you're talking about... I believe I gave much better than I
got, and I never yelled nor screamed unlike other people. Boring,
definitely.

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See what I mean... I don't even have to deliberately troll, and I get a
bottom fish.

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:45:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about... I believe I gave much better than I
got, and I never yelled nor screamed unlike other people. Boring,
definitely.


Oh BOOOOOOYYYY! That's rich.


Commodore Joe Redcloud

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Max,

Our friend Doug, does have a problem of staying on the subject line and
does get rather touchy about being remained about it. A simple look at
the Subject line and the subject under discussion has been changed
often. I've had that problem with him. Even when proven didn't stop him.
He just admits to it and kept on his merry way until the subject is
something more he is at ease with.

It's his way of discussing. It won't change. Best thing to do is back
away. If it is a one on one with him, it is the only way. He will take
the discussion around the bend until you'll never recognize what you're
talking about

Been there, done that! Try not to do it again..



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

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Such anger. You're quite pathetic, and I'm sure most people here feel sorry
for you. I certainly do.

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"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:42:22 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

See what I mean... I don't even have to deliberately troll, and I get a
bottom fish.

You have never deliberately trolled in your miserable life, gay boy.
Cleverness
is not listed in your menu.


Commodore Joe Redcloud

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Max,

Our friend Doug, does have a problem of staying on the subject line and
does get rather touchy about being remained about it. A simple look at
the Subject line and the subject under discussion has been changed
often. I've had that problem with him. Even when proven didn't stop him.
He just admits to it and kept on his merry way until the subject is
something more he is at ease with.

It's his way of discussing. It won't change. Best thing to do is back
away. If it is a one on one with him, it is the only way. He will take
the discussion around the bend until you'll never recognize what you're
talking about

Been there, done that! Try not to do it again..

Good advice. Merry Christmas.

Max

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That was a blow fish, wasn't it.

SBV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
See what I mean... I don't even have to deliberately troll, and
I get a
bottom fish.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 16:45:05 -0800, "Capt. JG"

wrote:
Not sure what you're talking about... I believe I gave much
better than I
got, and I never yelled nor screamed unlike other people.
Boring,
definitely.


Oh BOOOOOOYYYY! That's rich.


Commodore Joe Redcloud

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
That was a blow fish, wasn't it.

We used to catch and eat blow fish all the time, but I haven't seen one in
over 30 years.
I think they got fished out.
They wuz some good eatin'!
Scout

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Mostly dumb I bet...

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
The kid caught one while we were sailing in the Keys. We didn't
know what it was. Ugly looking sucker!

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
...
That was a blow fish, wasn't it.

We used to catch and eat blow fish all the time, but I haven't
seen one in
over 30 years.
I think they got fished out.
They wuz some good eatin'!
Scout

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The kid caught one while we were sailing in the Keys. We didn't
know what it was. Ugly looking sucker!

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
...
That was a blow fish, wasn't it.

We used to catch and eat blow fish all the time, but I haven't
seen one in
over 30 years.
I think they got fished out.
They wuz some good eatin'!
Scout

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"Capt. JG" wrote ...
Mostly dumb I am...


That's too bad.