Hangover OZ?
 

Sydney's racist mob violence spreads
December 11, 2005


A day of race-fuelled violence at Cronulla spread through other
beachside suburbs in Sydney's south on Sunday night, with one man
stabbed and at least 10 arrested.

About 5,000 people descended on Cronulla beach as mobs yelling racist
chants chased down and bashed people of Middle Eastern appearance.

Police and an ambulance crew were also assaulted as racial tensions
peaked.

Hopes that the violence had subsided by nightfall were dashed when, in
an apparent retaliatory strike, a 23-year-old man was stabbed in the
back outside a golf club at nearby Woolooware.

Two cars carrying a group of males, described by police as being of
Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, approached the man at about
10.25pm (AEDT) Sunday night.

Following a short conversation he was stabbed in the back, and was
taken to hospital in a serious condition.

At about the same time, up to 50 carloads of youths smashed more than
100 cars with baseball bats and other weapons in the beach suburb of
Maroubra.

Riot police were also called to the beachside suburb of
Brighton-le-Sands to control groups of brawling youths who had
reportedly thrown projectiles at police.

Ten people are believed to have been arrested.

Earlier on Sunday, when the trouble first flared at Cronulla, 12 people
were charged after mobs of youths chanting racist slogans and carrying
Australian flags attacked youths of Middle Eastern appearance.

Five police were injured when the mob turned on them.

Two paramedics were also injured as they tried to rescue a group of
people from the Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club, where they had fled to
escape the violence.

The mob broke the ambulance vehicle's windows and kicked its doors as
the paramedics tried to get the group out.

Police, who used capsicum spray and batons in their battle to subdue
the rioters, were also pelted with beer bottles.

Some groups in the crowd, estimated to have peaked at 5,000, also
stomped on and swarmed around police cars trying to move from one
violent flare-up to the next.

Officers were forced to shut down some roads, which were littered with
empty bottles as alcohol fuelled anger on the streets.

A group later made its way back to Cronulla for a retaliatory strike,
where men of Middle Eastern appearance are reported to have bashed a
local man unconscious.

A 23-year-old man was injured and more than 40 cars were smashed with
baseball bats during violent scenes in Maroubra, in Sydney's east,
overnight.

A group of about 60 men of Middle Eastern appearance and armed with
baseball bats smashed about 40 parked cars at about 9 pm (AEDT) Sunday
night.

The group then clashed with a local group, the Bra Boys, outside the
Maroubra Bay Hotel.

A 23-year-old Maroubra man was taken to Prince of Wales hospital after
he was stabbed with a sharp implement, believed to be a stick or nail,
in the hip.

The windscreen of a police vehicle was smashed when police attempted to
restore order.

Two police vehicles sustained minor panel damage, but no officers were
injured.

Police established a roadblock to prevent more people from entering the
suburb.

© 2005 AAP

Hangover OZ?
 

Take away the right to guns and see what happens.



OzOne wrote in message ...


Nah, not my scene.
Interesting that it all started last weekend when a group of Muslim
youths set upon a group of 4 volunteer lifesavers, incl 2 15 yo girls,
a 16yo bou and a 20yo man and beat them up...for fun it seems.



On 11 Dec 2005 12:08:28 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:

Sydney's racist mob violence spreads
December 11, 2005


A day of race-fuelled violence at Cronulla spread through other
beachside suburbs in Sydney's south on Sunday night, with one man
stabbed and at least 10 arrested.

About 5,000 people descended on Cronulla beach as mobs yelling racist
chants chased down and bashed people of Middle Eastern appearance.

Police and an ambulance crew were also assaulted as racial tensions
peaked.

Hopes that the violence had subsided by nightfall were dashed when, in
an apparent retaliatory strike, a 23-year-old man was stabbed in the
back outside a golf club at nearby Woolooware.

Two cars carrying a group of males, described by police as being of
Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, approached the man at about
10.25pm (AEDT) Sunday night.

Following a short conversation he was stabbed in the back, and was
taken to hospital in a serious condition.

At about the same time, up to 50 carloads of youths smashed more than
100 cars with baseball bats and other weapons in the beach suburb of
Maroubra.

Riot police were also called to the beachside suburb of
Brighton-le-Sands to control groups of brawling youths who had
reportedly thrown projectiles at police.

Ten people are believed to have been arrested.

Earlier on Sunday, when the trouble first flared at Cronulla, 12 people
were charged after mobs of youths chanting racist slogans and carrying
Australian flags attacked youths of Middle Eastern appearance.

Five police were injured when the mob turned on them.

Two paramedics were also injured as they tried to rescue a group of
people from the Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club, where they had fled to
escape the violence.

The mob broke the ambulance vehicle's windows and kicked its doors as
the paramedics tried to get the group out.

Police, who used capsicum spray and batons in their battle to subdue
the rioters, were also pelted with beer bottles.

Some groups in the crowd, estimated to have peaked at 5,000, also
stomped on and swarmed around police cars trying to move from one
violent flare-up to the next.

Officers were forced to shut down some roads, which were littered with
empty bottles as alcohol fuelled anger on the streets.

A group later made its way back to Cronulla for a retaliatory strike,
where men of Middle Eastern appearance are reported to have bashed a
local man unconscious.

A 23-year-old man was injured and more than 40 cars were smashed with
baseball bats during violent scenes in Maroubra, in Sydney's east,
overnight.

A group of about 60 men of Middle Eastern appearance and armed with
baseball bats smashed about 40 parked cars at about 9 pm (AEDT) Sunday
night.

The group then clashed with a local group, the Bra Boys, outside the
Maroubra Bay Hotel.

A 23-year-old Maroubra man was taken to Prince of Wales hospital after
he was stabbed with a sharp implement, believed to be a stick or nail,
in the hip.

The windscreen of a police vehicle was smashed when police attempted to
restore order.

Two police vehicles sustained minor panel damage, but no officers were
injured.

Police established a roadblock to prevent more people from entering the
suburb.

© 2005 AAP



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

More guns = more freedom

http://www.capitalism.org/faq/guns.htm




OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:30:16 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Take away the right to guns and see what happens.

**** yeah, with guns we could have wiped out hundreds and kept the
local undertakers in BMWs for a decade!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

Praise to Jeesus!

Marksmanship taught in American public schools at the junior and high school
levels!

http://robeson.k12.nc.us/subsection_...l_T70_R61.html

Glory!

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:30:16 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Take away the right to guns and see what happens.

**** yeah, with guns we could have wiped out hundreds and kept the
local undertakers in BMWs for a decade!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

Here's an American high school education for you:

http://www.gunlaws.com/HighSchoolMarksmanship.htm

Glory!


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:59:48 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

More guns = more freedom

I'd totally agree with that....mow down a few hundred at the local
supermarket and there would be much more freedom to move around the
aisles.

http://www.capitalism.org/faq/guns.htm

I like that page, though I wonder if it's pitched at those without a
high school education.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/JROTC/E...Activities.htm

Hangover OZ?
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:06:53 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Praise to Jeesus!

Marksmanship taught in American public schools at the junior and high
school
levels!

http://robeson.k12.nc.us/subsection_...l_T70_R61.html

Glory!

An excellent idea.
In Vietnam when driving a car, it's wise to remember that if you
happen to collide with a pedestrian and permanently incapacitate them,
It then becomes your responsibility to care for them and any family
for whom they ar the breadwinner.

An cousin of mine was killed in VietNam a few years back. She was on a
bicycle tour and got run over by a truck. Didn't collect one "red" cent.

Hangover OZ?
 

In article et,
Bob Crantz wrote:
http://www.atlanta.k12.ga.us/JROTC/E...Activities.htm

We should ban guns and bullets... and just buy these...

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/t...les/bullet.php




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hangover OZ?
 

oh, those crazy Awstralian Red-necks.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sydney's racist mob violence spreads
December 11, 2005


A day of race-fuelled violence at Cronulla spread through other
beachside suburbs in Sydney's south on Sunday night, with one man
stabbed and at least 10 arrested.

About 5,000 people descended on Cronulla beach as mobs yelling
racist
chants chased down and bashed people of Middle Eastern
appearance.

Police and an ambulance crew were also assaulted as racial
tensions
peaked.

Hopes that the violence had subsided by nightfall were dashed
when, in
an apparent retaliatory strike, a 23-year-old man was stabbed in
the
back outside a golf club at nearby Woolooware.

Two cars carrying a group of males, described by police as being
of
Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, approached the man at
about
10.25pm (AEDT) Sunday night.

Following a short conversation he was stabbed in the back, and
was
taken to hospital in a serious condition.

At about the same time, up to 50 carloads of youths smashed more
than
100 cars with baseball bats and other weapons in the beach suburb
of
Maroubra.

Riot police were also called to the beachside suburb of
Brighton-le-Sands to control groups of brawling youths who had
reportedly thrown projectiles at police.

Ten people are believed to have been arrested.

Earlier on Sunday, when the trouble first flared at Cronulla, 12
people
were charged after mobs of youths chanting racist slogans and
carrying
Australian flags attacked youths of Middle Eastern appearance.

Five police were injured when the mob turned on them.

Two paramedics were also injured as they tried to rescue a group
of
people from the Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club, where they had
fled to
escape the violence.

The mob broke the ambulance vehicle's windows and kicked its
doors as
the paramedics tried to get the group out.

Police, who used capsicum spray and batons in their battle to
subdue
the rioters, were also pelted with beer bottles.

Some groups in the crowd, estimated to have peaked at 5,000, also
stomped on and swarmed around police cars trying to move from one
violent flare-up to the next.

Officers were forced to shut down some roads, which were littered
with
empty bottles as alcohol fuelled anger on the streets.

A group later made its way back to Cronulla for a retaliatory
strike,
where men of Middle Eastern appearance are reported to have
bashed a
local man unconscious.

A 23-year-old man was injured and more than 40 cars were smashed
with
baseball bats during violent scenes in Maroubra, in Sydney's
east,
overnight.

A group of about 60 men of Middle Eastern appearance and armed
with
baseball bats smashed about 40 parked cars at about 9 pm (AEDT)
Sunday
night.

The group then clashed with a local group, the Bra Boys, outside
the
Maroubra Bay Hotel.

A 23-year-old Maroubra man was taken to Prince of Wales hospital
after
he was stabbed with a sharp implement, believed to be a stick or
nail,
in the hip.

The windscreen of a police vehicle was smashed when police
attempted to
restore order.

Two police vehicles sustained minor panel damage, but no officers
were
injured.

Police established a roadblock to prevent more people from
entering the
suburb.

© 2005 AAP

Hangover OZ?
 

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:03:44 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:

oh, those crazy Awstralian Red-necks.

Scotty


They're sorta like Americans

Yup, just like you wish you were.

SV

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:03:15 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:03:44 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:

oh, those crazy Awstralian Red-necks.

Scotty


They're sorta like Americans

Yup, just like you wish you were.

SV


Bwaaahahhahahahahhahahahhahaaa!
Nah Scootz, I'd rather be Australian and not live in the shire.

Funny thing is, I look across the river to there every
day...heck,
even now from my office I can see their shire houses all lit up
like
they're normal people.

too bad you can't just shoot them all, eh?

Scotty

Hangover OZ?
 

don't you call them ockers, okkers, okers.ochers?



OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 22:03:44 -0500, "Scotty"
scribbled thusly:

oh, those crazy Awstralian Red-necks.

Scotty

Nah, they're "Shire People"
They're sorta like Americans from the middle states.
They live in 'The Shire' all their lives, work in the shire, and
rarely leave other than to take a single 2 week holiday to Bali every
year


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

I agree. Teach kids how to handle guns responsibly,
they don't go around killing people, instead they learn
to protect themselves and their loved ones. Guns deter
aggression.

One responsible armed man can stand off a gang, or
defuse a volatile situation.

"Bob Crantz" wrote

Here's an American high school education for you:

http://www.gunlaws.com/HighSchoolMarksmanship.htm

Glory!


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 01:59:48 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

More guns = more freedom

I'd totally agree with that....mow down a few hundred at the local
supermarket and there would be much more freedom to move around the
aisles.

http://www.capitalism.org/faq/guns.htm

I like that page, though I wonder if it's pitched at those without a
high school education.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Hangover OZ?
 

Right, Just the thing to make a trigger happy
cop nervous.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
We should ban guns and bullets... and just buy these...

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/t...les/bullet.php

Hangover OZ?
 

It sounds like Paris.

"Scotty" wrote

oh, those crazy Awstralian Red-necks.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sydney's racist mob violence spreads
December 11, 2005


A day of race-fuelled violence at Cronulla spread through other
beachside suburbs in Sydney's south on Sunday night, with one man
stabbed and at least 10 arrested.

About 5,000 people descended on Cronulla beach as mobs yelling
racist
chants chased down and bashed people of Middle Eastern
appearance.

Police and an ambulance crew were also assaulted as racial
tensions
peaked.

Hopes that the violence had subsided by nightfall were dashed
when, in
an apparent retaliatory strike, a 23-year-old man was stabbed in
the
back outside a golf club at nearby Woolooware.

Two cars carrying a group of males, described by police as being
of
Mediterranean or Middle Eastern appearance, approached the man at
about
10.25pm (AEDT) Sunday night.

Following a short conversation he was stabbed in the back, and
was
taken to hospital in a serious condition.

At about the same time, up to 50 carloads of youths smashed more
than
100 cars with baseball bats and other weapons in the beach suburb
of
Maroubra.

Riot police were also called to the beachside suburb of
Brighton-le-Sands to control groups of brawling youths who had
reportedly thrown projectiles at police.

Ten people are believed to have been arrested.

Earlier on Sunday, when the trouble first flared at Cronulla, 12
people
were charged after mobs of youths chanting racist slogans and
carrying
Australian flags attacked youths of Middle Eastern appearance.

Five police were injured when the mob turned on them.

Two paramedics were also injured as they tried to rescue a group
of
people from the Cronulla Surf Lifesaving Club, where they had
fled to
escape the violence.

The mob broke the ambulance vehicle's windows and kicked its
doors as
the paramedics tried to get the group out.

Police, who used capsicum spray and batons in their battle to
subdue
the rioters, were also pelted with beer bottles.

Some groups in the crowd, estimated to have peaked at 5,000, also
stomped on and swarmed around police cars trying to move from one
violent flare-up to the next.

Officers were forced to shut down some roads, which were littered
with
empty bottles as alcohol fuelled anger on the streets.

A group later made its way back to Cronulla for a retaliatory
strike,
where men of Middle Eastern appearance are reported to have
bashed a
local man unconscious.

A 23-year-old man was injured and more than 40 cars were smashed
with
baseball bats during violent scenes in Maroubra, in Sydney's
east,
overnight.

A group of about 60 men of Middle Eastern appearance and armed
with
baseball bats smashed about 40 parked cars at about 9 pm (AEDT)
Sunday
night.

The group then clashed with a local group, the Bra Boys, outside
the
Maroubra Bay Hotel.

A 23-year-old Maroubra man was taken to Prince of Wales hospital
after
he was stabbed with a sharp implement, believed to be a stick or
nail,
in the hip.

The windscreen of a police vehicle was smashed when police
attempted to
restore order.

Two police vehicles sustained minor panel damage, but no officers
were
injured.

Police established a roadblock to prevent more people from
entering the
suburb.

© 2005 AAP

Hangover OZ?
 

In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
I agree. Teach kids how to handle guns responsibly,
they don't go around killing people, instead they learn
to protect themselves and their loved ones. Guns deter
aggression.

How about just teach them to act responsibily, then let them decide
for themselves if they want to own a gun.

One responsible armed man can stand off a gang, or
defuse a volatile situation.

And, one irresponsible armed man can kill dozens of people.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hangover OZ?
 

In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
Right, Just the thing to make a trigger happy
cop nervous.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
We should ban guns and bullets... and just buy these...

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/t...les/bullet.php

Why would bullet holes make a cop nevous?




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hangover OZ?
 

Heh Brainiac.... if this is your idea of "sharing your thoughts"..... do
yourself a favour and shut up!! Cripes are you ever clueless!

I can hear your whiny nasal reply rant already....

CM

"Commodore Joe Redcloud©" wrote in message
There have been cases of kids shooting each other, family members, or
themselves after taking a gun safety course, because they then felt
"They knew what they were doing". Kids are not just small adults. They
think in entirely different ways.


Commodore Joe Redcloud©

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OzOne wrote in message

And one angry man with a gun can wreak havoc.

See what one guy with a Tractor Trailer or D8 Dozer can do...... or 3 with
an airplane...... puts the gun guy at the back of the pack.

The really brave guys are the ones that get between Bobsprit and the buffet
table!

..... or Commode Joe and a cat in heat! :-)

CM

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:26:55 -0500, "Scotty"

scribbled thusly:

too bad you can't just shoot them all, eh?

Scotty



Nah, that'd be illegal.
Maybe if we fenced em off and made em wear orange
jumpsuits...that'd
be OK.


Is that what you guys did to the Aborigines?

Scotty

Hangover OZ?
 

"Commode Joe" wrote
Kids are not just small adults.

Commode Joe

Brilliant insight, Dr. Freud!

Hangover OZ?
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
See what one guy with a Tractor Trailer or D8 Dozer can
do...... or 3 with
an airplane...... puts the gun guy at the back of the pack.


I've always dreamed of taking a big excavator to the toll booths
on I -78. Swinging that big arm around, smashing into things.
Reach out and touch somebody! WooHoo......

Scotty

Hangover OZ?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in

And, one irresponsible armed man can kill dozens of people

without firing one shot.

SV

Hangover OZ?
 

In article ,
Scotty wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in

And, one irresponsible armed man can kill dozens of people

without firing one shot.

SV

Bush? :-)





--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Hangover OZ?
 

Evolved into what pray tell?

Do they find bliss in ignorance? Are they clon-like?


Amen!

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:19:37 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

don't you call them ockers, okkers, okers.ochers?



Ockers..yep, that them, but these ones have evolved.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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"Dave" wrote in message

BTW, Oz, what's with the rioting we're reading about in Sydney?

Blue light special on aisle 3!

Hangover OZ?
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in

The really brave guys are the ones that get between Bobsprit and the
buffet
table!


ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good one Mooron!

Hangover OZ?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in me

Bush?

no thanks, I have my own.

Hangover OZ?
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dave" wrote in message

BTW, Oz, what's with the rioting we're reading about in
Sydney?

Blue light special on aisle 3!


They've been watching too many Yank movies.

Ozzy's are all Yank wannabes.

SBV

Hangover OZ?
 

Bullet holes mean guns. If I were a cop and pulled
over someone with bullet holes in his car I'd pull my
weapon and keep my finger on the trigger. Wouldn't
you?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

Bart Senior .@. wrote:
Right, Just the thing to make a trigger happy
cop nervous.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote
We should ban guns and bullets... and just buy these...

http://www.selfdefenseproducts.com/t...les/bullet.php

Why would bullet holes make a cop nevous?
--
"j" ganz @@

Hangover OZ?
 

Different? Both have racial motivations.

In both cases these are disadvantaged Muslim youths,
poorly educated, in a simmering pot of resentment.

This is just the beginning. Stay tuned.

OzOne wrote
"Bart Senior" .@. scribbled thusly:

It sounds like Paris.

Does, doesn't it.
very different motives though.

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

Hangover OZ?
 

Nothing to do with the fact that Muslim's look down
on the freedoms of our society? White chicks in Bikini's
are equated with infidel sluts in their minds and thus not
deserving of respect. Sure they love to look due to their
repressed upbringings, but view it as evil and immoral.

Religious differences have resulted in gang rapes. Given
that most Muslims are middle eastern, that makes it racial
doesn't it?

OzOne wrote

It's not really about racism, just a reaction to the behaviour of
these moslem blokes and their disrespect for the Oz women and beach
culture.

Hangover OZ?
 

OzOne wrote
"Bart Senior" .@. scribbled thusly:

I agree. Teach kids how to handle guns responsibly,
they don't go around killing people, instead they learn
to protect themselves and their loved ones. Guns deter
aggression.

One responsible armed man can stand off a gang, or
defuse a volatile situation.

And one angry man with a gun can wreak havoc.


Particularly when you take the guns away from
responsible citizens.

An armed society is a polite society.

Hangover OZ?
 

Swabbie is one of those guys that cooks sitting down.
He gets so tired standing up!


"Capt.Mooron" wrote
The really brave guys are the ones that get between Bobsprit and the
buffet table!

Hangover OZ?
 

"Bart Senior" .@. scribbled thusly:
It sounds like Paris.

OzOne wrote
Does, doesn't it.
very different motives though.


Bart Senior wrote:
Different? Both have racial motivations.

In both cases these are disadvantaged Muslim youths,
poorly educated, in a simmering pot of resentment.

Well, sure, but in Australia the big riot was caused by
white people beating up anybody that thought might look
slightly woggish, including young women wearing head scarves.


This is just the beginning. Stay tuned.

Why do people gather in violent mobs? Because they're
unhappy. Whay are they unhappy? Is it because their lives
are getting better and they have bright hopes for the future?

The whole world is experiencing a decline in living
standards and masses of people are getting restless.
Meanwhile, petty demagogues use this a means of boosting
themselves into power, so they don't *want* to solve the
reasons for mass discontent even if they could.

You readers of history out there, does this sound familiar?

DSK

Hangover OZ?
 

OzOne wrote:
The 'Shire' where this happened is a pretty well off area.
Plenty of waterfront homes, high employment, 2 and 3 car families etc
etc.


Is the beach closed to anybody else coming in? Can't be so,
or else the Middle Eastern youths who started the trouble
wouldn't have gotten in, nyet?



This whole mess has been caused by the inability of Police to do their
jobs sorting out the relatively small gangs of people who have caused
problems in the area for years.
Courts will not backup Police and have released offenders on charges
of offencive language and behaviour because "It's normal in society
today".....thing is, it's not normal, or shouldn't be regarded as
normal to offend people, to abuse police, to shuck any authority.

I agree.


The white people in the shire rioted because they had had enough of
these middle eastern gangs coming into the area and creating friction.


The rioters I saw in the news did not look like "well-off"
people; looked like a mix of middle- and working-class men.


It could have been stopped long ago if it wasn't considered racist to
try and teach a few kids that they need to show a little respect and
manners.


The funny thing about this is that many people's (Middle
Eastern, Asian, American, etc etc) reaction against the
modern capitalist hi-tech world is the lack of respect for
tradition. Are these youths expressing "traditional cultural
values" by insulting others? How about the rioters?

In some cases it is definitely a tradition to insult &
attack others for little or no reason, but this kind of
tradition should be smothered. The world has gotten too
small for that kind of tribal attitude.

DSK

Hangover OZ?
 

Sure, Oz. Same sorta thing used to happen in the American south when blacks
made remarks about white women.

OzOne said:
Nope, it's not the same because I can't see US Police ever ignoring a
black making unseemly comments to a white woman.


Dave wrote:
Are you speaking of then or now?

Are you implying that racism is a thing of the past?

As for a police officer in the U.S. ignoring a black male
making unseemly comments to a white woman... it would be
interesting to see the reactions of a black female police
officer to such!

DSK

Hangover OZ?
 

In article ,
Scotty wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in me

Bush?

no thanks, I have my own.

That should go on a tee shirt.

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Hangover OZ?
 

As for a police officer in the U.S. ignoring a black male
making unseemly comments to a white woman... it would be
interesting to see the reactions of a black female police
officer to such!


Dave wrote:
My experience suggests the reaction of both would be the same--ignore them.
I've seen it happen plenty of times.

Malarkey.

It was a trick question, and you flunked. Bu hey, at least
you're consistent.

DSK

Hangover OZ?
 

In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
OzOne wrote
"Bart Senior" .@. scribbled thusly:

I agree. Teach kids how to handle guns responsibly,
they don't go around killing people, instead they learn
to protect themselves and their loved ones. Guns deter
aggression.

One responsible armed man can stand off a gang, or
defuse a volatile situation.

And one angry man with a gun can wreak havoc.


Particularly when you take the guns away from
responsible citizens.

An armed society is a polite society.


Well, how much more "armed" do we have to be for you to be safe?? What
do you think... 40 automatic weapons each? Would that do it??

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