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Jeff November 29th 05 05:51 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Good grief, you really don't know a thing about racing, do you? The
bene had a below average day in a handicap race and you're bragging
about it? What a PUTZ!


Sorry, Jeff...the 35s5 BEAT the C&C 99 and that's that. Doug's story
about the last race not counting is a new one for sure. My friends race
and the competition heats up all the way the last race where everyone
throws in the their best effort.


You really know nothing about racing do you? You're just making this
stuff up, talking about what you think your friends did. You're just
the Water Mitty at the end of the bar, who doesn't quite understand
what everyone is talking about. What a Putz!

If you look at the results, the bene was in last place after 7 races,
not counting the J80 that gave up. What actually happened in the last
race we can't tell, but one thing is clear, the 1, 2, and 3 boats
didn't care at all what the bene did; they were in their own race.
The bene and the j30 were fighting for 4th place.

You also completely chose to ignore
this...."The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew
regatta was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have
men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."


blah, blah, blah. A boat won a handicap race. I don't see what the
point is about the women, it was a women's race! Are you claiming the
something special about that? Are you saying the bene is a "ladies boat"?


Why, Jeff? Can't admit that the 35s5 is a fast boat? Hmmmmm?


So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't. But then, winning a handicap race doesn't prove anything,
does it? In fact all this thread has proved is that you know
absolutely nothing about racing!

And why were you suddenly so quiet when I showed the polars that
proved that the PDQ 42 beats the Beneteau 40.7 UPWIND?



RB
35s5 - a ladies boat
NY


Capt. Rob November 29th 05 06:20 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't.



TAAAADAAAAAA!!!! There we have it. Buh buy! Enjoy your floating living
room!!!!!! Whooo wwwweeee!!!! You just slammed the door on Sloco's best
hope! Why did you derail him? Poor fella!


RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 29th 05 06:36 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't.



TAAAADAAAAAA!!!! There we have it. Buh buy! Enjoy your floating living
room!!!!!! Whooo wwwweeee!!!! You just slammed the door on Sloco's best
hope! Why did you derail him? Poor fella!


RB
35s5
NY


Of course, its slower than my boat, and even loco's. And Mooron's
would probably do a horizon job on it in any weather worth raising the
sails for.

As I said, its not a bad daysailor. As a cruiser, it leaves a lot to
be desired.

rgnmstr November 29th 05 06:39 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Quite a come back after being thrown to the mat.


Capt. Rob November 29th 05 07:26 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Of course, its slower than my boat, and even loco's.


Toooo late, little Jeff!!!! You haven't learned what even single brain
celled Sloco knows! Don't give in, even a little!
Oh and I posted a link showing a 35s5 sailing around the world. Must be
a bad cruiser! I'm sure a PDQ 36 did the same.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

RB
35s5....with a bullet!
NY


Maxprop November 30th 05 02:22 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.


Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win won't
advance me in the standings.

Max



Capt. Rob November 30th 05 02:36 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win
won't
advance me in the standings.


Which was NOT the case with the race we were discussing. The 35s5 beat
the C&C 99 boat for boat, though it's rated 99 in many areas.
Pretty much the end of the story. If our comfy boat can pull that
off....and the other wins I posted....that's cool with me!
The 35s5 hangs with some fast company...and wins!


RB
35s5
NY


Gary November 30th 05 02:45 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Maxprop wrote:
"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...

Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.



Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win won't
advance me in the standings.

Max


What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.

Capt. Rob November 30th 05 02:55 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.
They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard. I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude. In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.

RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 30th 05 03:23 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
You really don't get this, do you? It isn't about not racing, though
I'm sure it happens in PHRF racing, but it wasn't common in the
collegiate racing I did, simply because it isn't fair to other teams
teams that came a long way to compete against a full fleet.

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.

Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.


Capt. Rob wrote:
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.
They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard. I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude. In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.

RB
35s5
NY



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