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Capt. Rob November 29th 05 01:20 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Poor Sloco!

http://www.premiere-racing.com/05_AM...ision_3_r8.htm

Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!


RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 29th 05 02:46 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Poor Sloco!

http://www.premiere-racing.com/05_AM...ision_3_r8.htm

Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!


Wow, Bob! You sure know a lot about racing! For the entire day
the bene's results in a fleet of 6 we
4,3,3,5,6,5,3,1

So your new advertising slogan is now:
"Beneteau ... slightly below average!"

Capt. Rob November 29th 05 03:00 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!

Wow, Bob! You sure know a lot about racing! For the entire day
the bene's results in a fleet of 6 we
4,3,3,5,6,5,3,1

Who cares? The C&C99 took one race. The 35s5 took one race as well. The
point is that the 35s5 is capable of beating ANY of these VERY fast
boats! And it's the only boat with such a large nice interior!And the
35s5 won the final race "getting right" as it were! Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Live with it, loser!

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob November 29th 05 03:13 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Was da matta, Jeff...gonna ignore this one?

"The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew regatta

was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have

men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."

Bwahahahahahaha!


RB
35s5
NY


DSK November 29th 05 03:16 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!

Wow, Bob! You sure know a lot about racing! For the entire day
the bene's results in a fleet of 6 we
4,3,3,5,6,5,3,1


I'm surprised they took the series with those finishes. Must
have been a number of DNFs among the other competitors!

"Capt." Rob wrote:
....Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.


Umm, no. Winning the first race of a series is more
important. In fact, when there is a tie, the boat which beat
the other one in the first race is an official determination
in breaking the tie.

If a sailor/boat is really really good, they often have a
big enough lead that they don't even have to sail the last race.

DSK


Jeff November 29th 05 03:44 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Good grief, you really don't know a thing about racing, do you? The
bene had a below average day in a handicap race and you're bragging
about it? What a PUTZ!


Capt. Rob wrote:
Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!

Wow, Bob! You sure know a lot about racing! For the entire day
the bene's results in a fleet of 6 we
4,3,3,5,6,5,3,1

Who cares? The C&C99 took one race. The 35s5 took one race as well. The
point is that the 35s5 is capable of beating ANY of these VERY fast
boats! And it's the only boat with such a large nice interior!And the
35s5 won the final race "getting right" as it were! Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Live with it, loser!

RB - real putz
35s5
NY


Jeff November 29th 05 03:55 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
DSK wrote:
Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!

Wow, Bob! You sure know a lot about racing! For the entire day
the bene's results in a fleet of 6 we
4,3,3,5,6,5,3,1


I'm surprised they took the series with those finishes. Must have been a
number of DNFs among the other competitors!


They didn't win, they took 4th out of 6. And the 6th was obviously a
non-racer, so they were effectively a few points out of last.
http://www.premiere-racing.com/05_AM...ies.htm#PHRF-5


"Capt." Rob wrote:
....Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.


More often its a consolation prize.


Umm, no. Winning the first race of a series is more important. In fact,
when there is a tie, the boat which beat the other one in the first race
is an official determination in breaking the tie.

If a sailor/boat is really really good, they often have a big enough
lead that they don't even have to sail the last race.


This is especially true if there's a throwout. Also the last race is
often really a match race between the 1 and 2 boats; who actually wins
is meaningless. But this is totally lost on Bob.

Capt. Rob November 29th 05 04:08 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Good grief, you really don't know a thing about racing, do you? The
bene had a below average day in a handicap race and you're bragging
about it? What a PUTZ!


Sorry, Jeff...the 35s5 BEAT the C&C 99 and that's that. Doug's story
about the last race not counting is a new one for sure. My friends race
and the competition heats up all the way the last race where everyone
throws in the their best effort. You also completely chose to ignore
this...."The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew
regatta


was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have



men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."

Why, Jeff? Can't admit that the 35s5 is a fast boat? Hmmmmm?


RB
35s5
NY


rgnmstr November 29th 05 05:27 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Poor Sloco!
http://www.premiere-racing.com/05_AM...05_division_3_...

Even clobbered the C&C99 and boat for boat!

I don't know how a 3 mile race even qualifies as a race. I suspect it
was shortened due to lack of wind and the fact that all 5 boats
finished within 4 minutes of each other might also indicate that. As
far as beating the 99 hey, we've beaten a 99 and they start 5 minutes
ahead of us. Anything can happen. So now after 2 weeks of intensive
web searching you've found 2 races where a 35s5 didn't finish last.
Congrats.


rgnmstr November 29th 05 05:29 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.


Jeff November 29th 05 05:51 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Good grief, you really don't know a thing about racing, do you? The
bene had a below average day in a handicap race and you're bragging
about it? What a PUTZ!


Sorry, Jeff...the 35s5 BEAT the C&C 99 and that's that. Doug's story
about the last race not counting is a new one for sure. My friends race
and the competition heats up all the way the last race where everyone
throws in the their best effort.


You really know nothing about racing do you? You're just making this
stuff up, talking about what you think your friends did. You're just
the Water Mitty at the end of the bar, who doesn't quite understand
what everyone is talking about. What a Putz!

If you look at the results, the bene was in last place after 7 races,
not counting the J80 that gave up. What actually happened in the last
race we can't tell, but one thing is clear, the 1, 2, and 3 boats
didn't care at all what the bene did; they were in their own race.
The bene and the j30 were fighting for 4th place.

You also completely chose to ignore
this...."The Charleston Ocean Racing Association's annual Witches' Brew
regatta was raced in the harbor Oct. 30. As with its Femme Fatale race in the
spring, CORA requires a female skipper for each boat in the Witches'
Brew. Though Charleston has produced many outstanding female sailors,
as noted often in this column, the big boats seem to almost always have
men at the helm. These two races do a lot to promote women's
participation and demonstrate their skills. Deb Campeau skippered
Hoodoo, a J/109, to first place in the A fleet. Caroline Byrd was at
the helm of the J/24 Footloose and won the B fleet. Kristy Kowert
skippered Andiamo, a Beneteau 35s5, to first place in C, and Judy
Fair-child was at the helm of Absolu, another 35s5 Beneteau, and took
the honors in D fleet."


blah, blah, blah. A boat won a handicap race. I don't see what the
point is about the women, it was a women's race! Are you claiming the
something special about that? Are you saying the bene is a "ladies boat"?


Why, Jeff? Can't admit that the 35s5 is a fast boat? Hmmmmm?


So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't. But then, winning a handicap race doesn't prove anything,
does it? In fact all this thread has proved is that you know
absolutely nothing about racing!

And why were you suddenly so quiet when I showed the polars that
proved that the PDQ 42 beats the Beneteau 40.7 UPWIND?



RB
35s5 - a ladies boat
NY


Capt. Rob November 29th 05 06:20 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't.



TAAAADAAAAAA!!!! There we have it. Buh buy! Enjoy your floating living
room!!!!!! Whooo wwwweeee!!!! You just slammed the door on Sloco's best
hope! Why did you derail him? Poor fella!


RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 29th 05 06:36 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
So, what's the big deal, its a relatively fast boat. I never said it
wasn't.



TAAAADAAAAAA!!!! There we have it. Buh buy! Enjoy your floating living
room!!!!!! Whooo wwwweeee!!!! You just slammed the door on Sloco's best
hope! Why did you derail him? Poor fella!


RB
35s5
NY


Of course, its slower than my boat, and even loco's. And Mooron's
would probably do a horizon job on it in any weather worth raising the
sails for.

As I said, its not a bad daysailor. As a cruiser, it leaves a lot to
be desired.

rgnmstr November 29th 05 06:39 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Quite a come back after being thrown to the mat.


Capt. Rob November 29th 05 07:26 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Of course, its slower than my boat, and even loco's.


Toooo late, little Jeff!!!! You haven't learned what even single brain
celled Sloco knows! Don't give in, even a little!
Oh and I posted a link showing a 35s5 sailing around the world. Must be
a bad cruiser! I'm sure a PDQ 36 did the same.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

RB
35s5....with a bullet!
NY


Maxprop November 30th 05 02:22 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.


Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win won't
advance me in the standings.

Max



Capt. Rob November 30th 05 02:36 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win
won't
advance me in the standings.


Which was NOT the case with the race we were discussing. The 35s5 beat
the C&C 99 boat for boat, though it's rated 99 in many areas.
Pretty much the end of the story. If our comfy boat can pull that
off....and the other wins I posted....that's cool with me!
The 35s5 hangs with some fast company...and wins!


RB
35s5
NY


Gary November 30th 05 02:45 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Maxprop wrote:
"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...

Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.



Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win won't
advance me in the standings.

Max


What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.

Capt. Rob November 30th 05 02:55 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.
They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard. I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude. In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.

RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 30th 05 03:23 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
You really don't get this, do you? It isn't about not racing, though
I'm sure it happens in PHRF racing, but it wasn't common in the
collegiate racing I did, simply because it isn't fair to other teams
teams that came a long way to compete against a full fleet.

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.

Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.


Capt. Rob wrote:
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.
They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard. I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude. In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob November 30th 05 05:12 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.



Jeff, look at the race I posted. Is the C&C still trying for best time
in the last race? What about the J27? But HERE, I'll make it easier for
ya....and everyone else...here's the same boat, Mistral....taking 1st
overall.

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm

And beating my beloved C&C 37+ in the process. Buh buy, Jeff!!!!

RB
35s5
NY


rgnmstr November 30th 05 05:19 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Maybe you could tell the group what the ARC class is.


Capt. Rob November 30th 05 07:35 AM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
and again, Sloco....

Charleston Ocean Racing Association (CORA) Fall Race #2, Sept. 4
(harbor)--Fleet winners (boat name, boat type, owner): Fleet A:
Emotion, J/120, Hanckel; Fleet B: Luce Goose, J/24, Scribner; Fleet C:
Andiamo, Beneteau 35s5, Kowert; Fleet D: Dissipation, Tartan 30, Burke


RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 30th 05 02:03 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in
last place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has
its best shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is
being won elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a
hypothetical situation; it happens in almost every regatta.



Jeff, look at the race I posted. Is the C&C still trying for best time
in the last race?


No, he wasn't. You really don't get it, do you? The C&C wanted to
win the regatta, not the race. The C&C was in first place and only
had to beat the J27 (actually beat him by several minutes) to win the
division. We can only speculate about what transpired, but two things
are certain: The C&C didn't care at all about the Beneteau, and you
know nothing about racing.

What about the J27?


The J27 had a bigger challenge - he had to beat both the C&C and the
Lindenberg to win, which he did. He also didn't care about the Bene.


But HERE, I'll make it easier for
ya....and everyone else...here's the same boat, Mistral....taking 1st
overall.

http://www.hospicecareflorida.org/Re...esults2003.htm


What's the point? Its handicap racing, which measures the skill of
the skipper, not the speed of the boat. Its clear the Craig Setzer is
a talented skipper since he seems to show up in almost every race you
posted. Also, his boat is clearly well setup, since its featured by a
rigger as the fully tricked out boat.

This is pretty pathetic, even for you booby. Don't worry, you'll be
able to tell your friends that you could win a race, if you actually
wanted to.


And beating my beloved C&C 37+ in the process. Buh buy, Jeff!!!!

RB - a non-racer who thinks owning a racing boat is cool
35s5 - a ladies boat
NY


Maxprop November 30th 05 02:28 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win
won't
advance me in the standings.


Which was NOT the case with the race we were discussing. The 35s5 beat
the C&C 99 boat for boat, though it's rated 99 in many areas.
Pretty much the end of the story. If our comfy boat can pull that
off....and the other wins I posted....that's cool with me!
The 35s5 hangs with some fast company...and wins!


In fairness, the 35s5 probably can hold its own in such company. But you
and all your detractors are overlooking the most important part of any race:
the skipper and crew. You can have the fastest boat and lose, and you can
have a relatively slower boat and win. It happens all the time. Generally
when boats are relatively equal, and this would include boats in the PHRF
range of 90 to 140 as in the case of your boat, the reason one wins over the
other is seldom related to boat speed, rather to the abilities of the
skipper and his crew, and how many mistakes and blunders each crew makes
during the race. If it just so happens that the 35s5 had a better crew
complement, it would likely beat the C&C, despite any boat speed
differences.

Two examples: 1) In a small annual regatta on Lake Michigan each summer,
the same skipper has won the race all but two times over the past 25 years.
And he's done so with 7 different boats, ranging from a Sabre 30 Targa to a
J44. Ironically, one of his losses (he placed second) was sailing a J35
which he'd just acquired. He simply didn't know how to sail it at that
point. The following year he won with it, which is no small task
considering the difficulty of sailing to that boat's rating. Bottom line:
no one was better than that skipper. Faster boats with lesser skippers lost
to him year after year. 2) I won more weekend Snipe races with my older,
slower Lemke Snipe than I ever did with my later, faster Chubasco boat.
Reason: I took my racing very seriously when I owned the Lemke, but really
didn't care about racing much after buying the Chubasco. I was a far better
skipper during my early Snipe years than later, when I become more
interested in the social end of things (read: my new female crew who
subsequently became my wife).

Touting the speed of your new Beneteau is akin to bragging about penis
length--it's all about how it's used.

Max



Maxprop November 30th 05 02:28 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"Gary" wrote in message
news:ln8jf.659386$tl2.148665@pd7tw3no...
Maxprop wrote:
"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...

Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.



Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win
won't advance me in the standings.

Max

What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


It's obvious you don't race.

Max



Maxprop November 30th 05 02:45 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone
else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.


Gary, these people are full of ****e. They know full well that lots of
folks LOVE to race and sail and don't miss a race if they can help it.


You would be describing beginners, not seasoned experts who've been racing
for decades.

They don't look to go home early and race EVERY race hard.


This clearly points up the fact that you don't race, or if so haven't done
it on a regular basis for any period of time. You are dead wrong about
this. After literally hundreds of regattas over the years, I've seen more
top and bottom-end skippers DNS the last race (or sometimes the last two)
when their finishing position is secure, than those who race it despite
their security. How do I know you don't race? Easy--if you'd ever done a
7-race regatta in 90 degree heat in drifter conditions, the very last thing
you want to do is go back out and drift around for another 90 minutes. You
seek out air conditioning and a rum & tonic, not more light air frustration.
And if your finishing position isn't secure, you curse the race committee
for not cancelling the last race. You really are talking out your ass on
this, Bubbles. You're clueless.

I'm hoping
their just trolling, because I'd be sad to hear of someone who sails or
races with that attitude.


This may come as a shock, Bubbles, but Mary Poppins isn't real.

In a series of races, such as the J24 series
here, the heat builds up more and more through each race. Everyone is
trying hard and the last race is no less important than the first
because EVERY race is worth winning. My ex-girlfriend races that
way...and wins. In fact she just won some silver with her new Catalina
30.


Good for her. The last J24 regatta I attended (I crewed for a competent
skipper who always kept his composure in horrible conditions) the first
three races had 36 boats. The last two had 21 and 11 boats, respectively.
The wind was blowing 20 to 25 during the entire two day series, waves were
closely-spaced in the 6-8' range in the afternoons, the temps were in the
40s and 50s, and there was enough broken gear and rigging to fill a large
capacity dumpster by the end of the regatta. We placed third overall, but
were actually happier to just have survived. We competed in the last two
races, but really wished we'd been either at the bottom or at the top so we
could have bagged at least the last race.

As usual, Bubbles, you know not what you blabber about. And somehow you've
sucked Gary into your ignorance as well.

Max



Maxprop November 30th 05 02:46 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
You really don't get this, do you? It isn't about not racing, though I'm
sure it happens in PHRF racing, but it wasn't common in the collegiate
racing I did, simply because it isn't fair to other teams teams that came
a long way to compete against a full fleet.

However, the strategy changes in the last race. A boat that is in last
place for a regatta is left to do whatever it wants, and thus has its best
shot at winning an individual race. Meanwhile, the silver is being won
elsewhere on the course by the real racers. This isn't a hypothetical
situation; it happens in almost every regatta.

Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.


They'll have to draw some pictures, too, Jeff. Bubbles is simply clueless
about this.

Max



Gary November 30th 05 03:02 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
Maxprop wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message
news:ln8jf.659386$tl2.148665@pd7tw3no...

Maxprop wrote:

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
groups.com...


Winning the last
race seems to be important with racers for some reason.

Gee, I've been racing for quite a while and have never heard that.


Same here. I usually DNS the last race as my throwout if my finishing
positions in the others are sufficient to hold my place, or if a win
won't advance me in the standings.

Max


What happened to the fun of sailing? Why miss a race? Let someone else
skipper, change jobs, do anything but sit on the dock. It's not about
winning, it's about sailing.



It's obvious you don't race.

Max


Of course I do, but I don't quit.
Last four Swiftsures, last three Van-Isle 360s, Vic-Maui, round the
bouys at our club. Lots of races. I'm not a winner but I'm not a
quitter either. I'm a sailor and racing is a great excuse to get out
sailing in all conditions.

Scotty November 30th 05 06:23 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 

"Maxprop" wrote i
Ask one of your racing friends, if they really exist. Maybe

they'll
explain it to you real slow, using small words.


They'll have to draw some pictures, too, Jeff. Bubbles is

simply clueless
about this.


You guys are gonna look pretty foolish when Bob starts winning
all those races next year.

SBV




Joe November 30th 05 06:33 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
sheeeeezeeeeeeeeee


Capt. Rob November 30th 05 08:10 PM

And 35s5 wins AGAIN!
 
You would be describing beginners, not seasoned experts who've been
racing
for decades.

It cracks me up with some pinhead decids "he Knows" how everyone sails
or should sail. A good friend of mine races a 1982 J24 and has been
doing it since 1982. He never misses a race if he can help it. I guess
he just has no experience. Or maybe he's just sailing "wrong" according
to Maxi's world of sailing economy. Maxi, but a faster boat and get
back to me. Your choice in boats reflects a a type of sailing that
lacks any type of "sport" or "challenge" just like Jeffs. Only children
preach about how another child is playing with his toys wrong!

RB
35s5
NY


Scotty November 30th 05 09:09 PM

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"Swab Rob" wrote in

It cracks me up with some pinhead decids "he Knows" how

everyone sails
or should sail.


OH the IRONY !



Jeff November 30th 05 09:55 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
....

Only children
preach about how another child is playing with his toys wrong!



And what do you call someone who claim you should "Kill Yourself" if
your boat is not exactly like your bene?

I believe the technical term for that person is "asshole."

Capt. Rob November 30th 05 10:22 PM

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And what do you call someone who claim you should "Kill Yourself" if
your boat is not exactly like your bene?


I call him someone with a funny and dark sense of humor. Maybe you
really did think about killing yourself over the lame duck PDQ, but
only YOU can make YOU feel bad about YOUR boat, MCM. The person
offended by such a obvious silly comment like that is known as a
"complete moron."
Or would you prefer Mister Complete Moron? I think I'll just call you
MCM for short!

RB
35s5
NY


Jeff November 30th 05 10:43 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
And what do you call someone who claim you should "Kill Yourself" if
your boat is not exactly like your bene?


I call him someone with a funny and dark sense of humor. Maybe you
really did think about killing yourself over the lame duck PDQ, but
only YOU can make YOU feel bad about YOUR boat, MCM. The person
offended by such a obvious silly comment like that is known as a
"complete moron."
Or would you prefer Mister Complete Moron? I think I'll just call you
MCM for short!


slow down there, booby, its hard keeping up with your various
personalities - first you're complaining that we're "telling you how
to play with your toys," now you're saying you can do it because its
just your "sense of humour."

But the funny thing is, you're stuck with a Bendy toy. Here's some
advise on playing with your toy: Learn how to navigate, because if
you hit another rock like the one you whacked two years ago, it might
just rip your transom off.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Capt. Rob November 30th 05 11:57 PM

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But the funny thing is, you're stuck with a Bendy toy.


My Bendy has circumnavigated, has won inland and offshore races.
Funny...I can't find a PDQ 36 that has...
Hmmm.

RB
35s5
NY


Vito December 1st 05 01:39 PM

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"Jeff" wrote
No, he wasn't. You really don't get it, do you? The C&C wanted to
win the regatta, not the race. The C&C was in first place and only
had to beat the J27 (actually beat him by several minutes) to win the
division. We can only speculate about what transpired, but two things
are certain: The C&C didn't care at all about the Beneteau, and you
know nothing about racing.


Let me put it another way. Eleven hours into a motorcycle endurance race
our team was leading our class by close to half an hour, clicking off 1:37
lap times like clockwork and gaining a couple seconds on our closest rival
every lap. Soopy had just taken over when a much faster bike, in a far
different class, came out of the pits and passed him. Next lap soopy's time
was down to 1:35, hanging on the guys tail and enjoying a great dice. His
lap times steadily fell - 1:33, 1:30, 1:27 despite pit board warnings. Then
he limped in with a broken crank. We'd gone from first in class to DNF in
five laps. Soopy prolly still wonders why nobody'd team with him any more
.......



rgnmstr December 1st 05 04:45 PM

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Boobie, for the third time maybe you could tell the group what the ARC
class is. That 35s5 you boasted about winning a race competed in a
class called ARC. There were multiple PHRF classes in the regatta why
did the 35s5 choose ARC? What is it?


Maxprop December 1st 05 11:32 PM

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"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
Boobie, for the third time maybe you could tell the group what the ARC
class is. That 35s5 you boasted about winning a race competed in a
class called ARC. There were multiple PHRF classes in the regatta why
did the 35s5 choose ARC? What is it?


He probably won't, so why not elucidate.

Max




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