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The Comparison...
4 feet longer waterline lenght and only .5kt faster!!
The 35s5 can't self right..... once it's over it's done!! Nordica 30 is more comfortable! Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!! Performance Comparison LOA Nordica 30 29.49 Beneteau First 35s5 36.62 LWL Nordica 30 25 Beneteau First 35s5 29.68 Beam Nordica 30 9.77 Beneteau First 35s5 11.98 Displacement Nordica 30 10220 Beneteau First 35s5 11886 Sail Area Nordica 30 502 Beneteau First 35s5 756 Capsize Ratio Nordica 30 1.8 Beneteau First 35s5 2.1 Hull Speed Nordica 30 6.7 Beneteau First 35s5 7.3 Sail Area to Displacement Nordica 30 17.06 Beneteau First 35s5 23.22 Displacement to LWL Nordica 30 292 Beneteau First 35s5 203 LWL to Beam Nordica 30 2.56 Beneteau First 35s5 2.48 Motion Comfort Nordica 30 28.57 Beneteau First 35s5 21 Pounds/Inch Nordica 30 873 Beneteau First 35s5 1270 |
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Kinda spells it out don't it? Bob's boat ain't that hot and it's cheap
light plastic. I wonder how it compares to an Express 30?? I mean really... it's 5 feet longer and supposedly richly appointed... but only weighs in at 1700lbs more than the Nordica....... veneer and honeycomb... yup that's "Rich"!!! Ha ha ha ha CM "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:JdIhf.170031$Io.105365@clgrps13... 4 feet longer waterline lenght and only .5kt faster!! The 35s5 can't self right..... once it's over it's done!! Nordica 30 is more comfortable! Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!! Performance Comparison LOA Nordica 30 29.49 Beneteau First 35s5 36.62 LWL Nordica 30 25 Beneteau First 35s5 29.68 Beam Nordica 30 9.77 Beneteau First 35s5 11.98 Displacement Nordica 30 10220 Beneteau First 35s5 11886 Sail Area Nordica 30 502 Beneteau First 35s5 756 Capsize Ratio Nordica 30 1.8 Beneteau First 35s5 2.1 Hull Speed Nordica 30 6.7 Beneteau First 35s5 7.3 Sail Area to Displacement Nordica 30 17.06 Beneteau First 35s5 23.22 Displacement to LWL Nordica 30 292 Beneteau First 35s5 203 LWL to Beam Nordica 30 2.56 Beneteau First 35s5 2.48 Motion Comfort Nordica 30 28.57 Beneteau First 35s5 21 Pounds/Inch Nordica 30 873 Beneteau First 35s5 1270 |
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Hey Cap! As I've said, the SA for the Benny is grossly overstated
here. And the "hull speed" is purely a function of the waterline length. Even booby know these things. Capt.Mooron wrote: 4 feet longer waterline lenght and only .5kt faster!! The 35s5 can't self right..... once it's over it's done!! Nordica 30 is more comfortable! Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!! Performance Comparison LOA Nordica 30 29.49 Beneteau First 35s5 36.62 LWL Nordica 30 25 Beneteau First 35s5 29.68 Beam Nordica 30 9.77 Beneteau First 35s5 11.98 Displacement Nordica 30 10220 Beneteau First 35s5 11886 Sail Area Nordica 30 502 Beneteau First 35s5 756 Capsize Ratio Nordica 30 1.8 Beneteau First 35s5 2.1 Hull Speed Nordica 30 6.7 Beneteau First 35s5 7.3 Sail Area to Displacement Nordica 30 17.06 Beneteau First 35s5 23.22 Displacement to LWL Nordica 30 292 Beneteau First 35s5 203 LWL to Beam Nordica 30 2.56 Beneteau First 35s5 2.48 Motion Comfort Nordica 30 28.57 Beneteau First 35s5 21 Pounds/Inch Nordica 30 873 Beneteau First 35s5 1270 |
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Hey Cap! As I've said, the SA for the Benny is grossly overstated
here. A lot of European manufactures used to use a 150% genny for calculating SA for their brochures and spec sheets because they were undercanvased for the US market. Using a 150% for the brochure was easier and cheaper than making the boat available with 2 rigs. One which would have been proper for the U.S. |
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A lot of European manufactures used to use a 150% genny for calculating
SA for their brochures and spec sheets because they were undercanvased for the US market. Really, Sloco? Do you think that's the case with the 35s5? What about for the polars? How would it benefit a builder to use a 150% for polars vs. a 100% for optimum pointing? Anyone think Sloco can answer ANY of these? RB 35s5 NY |
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Really, Sloco? Do you think that's the case with the 35s5? What
about for the polars? How would it benefit a builder to use a 150% for polars vs. a 100% for optimum pointing? Anyone think Sloco can answer ANY of these? Well, maybe you could educate me here. Most boats that I've been on point equally with a #1 or a #3. The sail that usually falls short in pointing ability is a #2. A sail that falls in the 135% range. I'll let you make a fool out of yourself now. |
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Well, maybe you could educate me here. Most boats that I've been on
point equally with a #1 or a #3. The sail that usually falls short in pointing ability is a #2. Notice How Sloco couldn't answer the question, folks? I asked him how a builder would benefit from using a 150% in polars...with no mention of conditions BTW! Sloco knows boats! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt.Mooron wrote:
4 feet longer waterline lenght and only .5kt faster!! The 35s5 can't self right..... once it's over it's done!! Nordica 30 is more comfortable! Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!!! Performance Comparison LOA Nordica 30 29.49 Beneteau First 35s5 36.62 LWL Nordica 30 25 Beneteau First 35s5 29.68 Beam Nordica 30 9.77 Beneteau First 35s5 11.98 Displacement Nordica 30 10220 Beneteau First 35s5 11886 Sail Area Nordica 30 502 Beneteau First 35s5 756 Capsize Ratio Nordica 30 1.8 Beneteau First 35s5 2.1 Hull Speed Nordica 30 6.7 Beneteau First 35s5 7.3 Sail Area to Displacement Nordica 30 17.06 Beneteau First 35s5 23.22 Displacement to LWL Nordica 30 292 Beneteau First 35s5 203 LWL to Beam Nordica 30 2.56 Beneteau First 35s5 2.48 Motion Comfort Nordica 30 28.57 Beneteau First 35s5 21 Pounds/Inch Nordica 30 873 Beneteau First 35s5 1270 The hull speed is misleading. I drive a 102' boat and hull speed is 10 or so, (66' waterline). It's theoretical anyway. The Bennie would right itself but not nearly as quickly as the Nordica. The comfort numbers are interesting. I wonder what the AVS is for the Bennie? I bet its around 120, pretty low. That means it would have to roll 60 degrees before it wanted to come back up! The Bennie looks like it would be the quicker of the two but the Nordica sure has it on seakeeping. |
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"Gary" wrote in message The hull speed is misleading. I drive a 102' boat and hull speed is 10 or so, (66' waterline). It's theoretical anyway. The Bennie would right itself but not nearly as quickly as the Nordica. The comfort numbers are interesting. I wonder what the AVS is for the Bennie? I bet its around 120, pretty low. That means it would have to roll 60 degrees before it wanted to come back up! The Bennie looks like it would be the quicker of the two but the Nordica sure has it on seakeeping. Without a doubt Gary... but the object when discussing boats with Bob is just "long cocking" at the bar..... and he's a shrimp dick! :-) CM |
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The Comparison...
Sail Area to Displacement Beneteau First 35s5 23.22
Is that number with a std. 100% jib or a 150%? Most boats are measured with a 100%. |