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You know of course that veneer with a plastic overcoat won't stain...
since
it's not wood!

That's called "varnish" Mooron. Too late for your rotted interior I'm
afraid!

P-u-l-l-le-e-e-ez-z-z-e... there isn't a stick of real wood in that
boat!
That's plastic on veneer

Keep saying it over and over...doesn't make it so. The teak interior
was an expensive option over the dark mahogonay veneer that was
standard.

Face it... I have a better boat!

That's great! You finally replaced the Nordic! What did you get?

RB
35s5
NY

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Love that "real teak" bulkhead!
What thickness is the "real teak" that they laid over the other stuff?



Ozzy, you seem too to busy in joining the bandwagon to educate poor
slow Mooron. Why are the bulkheads thin veneer over honeycomb instead
of solid teak. hmmmm? Do you think there were saving money on that? Or
could it have to do with weight on a vessel much bigger than Mooron's
and only 11'460 lbs at 35.5 LOA, whilestill having a bigger more
comfortable interior? The 35s5 cost more than the Nordic even in
adjusted dollars...a full third more than other popular builders in the
early 90's. The Nordic is a good boat, but it simply is a carbon copy
of many other full keelers with no sailing prowess to match the 35s5 in
any area. Why don't we shoot closeups of the fit and finish elements on
both vessels and compare? I can tell from the pic Mooron posted that
he's not even close to the 35s5's high standard. Let's see if he'll put
his pictures where his mouth is!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Keep saying it over and over...doesn't make it so. The teak interior
was an expensive option over the dark mahogonay veneer that was
standard.

Well Bob.... it's a fact that Teak Veneer is only slightly more expensive
than Mahogany Veneer... but then again when weighed against the cost of
plastic... I can imagine that to be an "expensive option".....

Tell us.. does your cabin echo when empty? Bwahahahahahaaaaaa!!

CM

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OzOne wrote in message

Window?

Yeah well that's Bobsprit speak.....

Bwaaahahahhahahhahahhahahahaaa!
Someone must have left the 'window' open in the rain...maybe an awning
would help.

Yeah... first year I brought it down to NS from the Arctic... the humidity
caught me off guard. I should have known better. Condensation from the ports
..... I use dehumidifiers and solar powered fans now. That mildew is a real
problem at times during storage.

CM

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OzOne wrote in message
Love that "real teak" bulkhead!
What thickness is the "real teak" that they laid over the other stuff?

Yeah thanx Ozone.... like Bobsprit would even have noticed!

Yeah.. both the bulkheads are veneer over 1/2" marine ply. I've been meaning
to replace it with the stockpile of teak I've salvaged from various sources.
I actually have sufficient material to fabricate T&G for most of the areas
now outfitted with veneer.

The difference is I doubt there is any solid teak on Bobsprit's boat. It's
all veneer. All the cabinetry, posts and tables on Overproof as well al the
T&G is solid teak.

I was having a lot of fun until you decided to pop in... Blast You!!!!

Ha Ha Ha ha

CM

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Maybe you could post some "fit and finish" shots of the Benny after 15
or 20 years of sailing....I'm sure you'll find they will look far
worse that any yacht built in the early 90's.....did you not wonder at
the almost stunned exclamations of your surveyor?


Ozzy, you really should know better than that. The surveyor was shocked
at her condition because most 35s5's have been raced hard. No boat
looks good after being put away wet too many time over 15 years. But in
this case the boat was unused for some years and hardly raced at all.
She was used by a dot-com company for entertainment for several years
and the interior was untouched. I looked at an older 345 that was also
in great condition because it was maintained properly. My 35s5 was
built in 1990 by the way. Her fit and finish is above average, "better
than most production boats" as noted by two surveys. She's certainly
nicer than the well regarded C&Cs we looked and a match for the Caliber
and Island Packet. Some construction points for you. Hey deck is
typical cored, with solid sections in loaded areas. Her hull is NOT
cored and uses a lighter weight stringer network for rigidity, key in
weight saving along with her honeycombed interior pieces. 35s5's are
not known to have a weak deck. I found one with one area of wet core
due to a mast impact and bad repair. My deck is bone dry.
In every respect it exceeds Mooron's vessel, both in design and
execution. It's faster, larger, more comfortable in most conditions and
certainly more versatile and fun. There are a zillion boats like
Mooron's...heavy, full keeled beasts with traditional interiors. I
bought the 35s5 because it was one of the few 35 footers that combined
fine performance with splendid accomodation...large sleeping areas, two
private cabins, a large head, swim platform, large cockpit and so on.
Mooron sees a bright well fit varnished interior and can only assume it
must be plastic. This only proves he's sailing an ancient, if
ploddingly capable craft, but remains desperately out of touch.
Them's the facts.

RB
35s5
NY

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Ho Boy... Bobsprit thanx for this rant!!!

It was getting all civil and slow around here. :-)

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Ozzy, you really should know better than that. The surveyor was shocked
at her condition because most 35s5's have been raced hard. No boat
looks good after being put away wet too many time over 15 years. But in
this case the boat was unused for some years and hardly raced at all.
She was used by a dot-com company for entertainment for several years
and the interior was untouched. I looked at an older 345 that was also
in great condition because it was maintained properly. My 35s5 was
built in 1990 by the way. Her fit and finish is above average, "better
than most production boats" as noted by two surveys. She's certainly
nicer than the well regarded C&Cs we looked and a match for the Caliber
and Island Packet. Some construction points for you. Hey deck is
typical cored, with solid sections in loaded areas. Her hull is NOT
cored and uses a lighter weight stringer network for rigidity, key in
35s5's are
not known to have a weak deck. I found one with one area of wet core

Oh that'll spread in a hurry.... where there's one... there's a dozen!! yup!

due to a mast impact and bad repair. My deck is bone dry.

Mast Impact????!!!! Wooooooooooooo!!!

In every respect it exceeds Mooron's vessel, both in design and
execution.

If your tastes favour cookie-cutter, look alike, "cheap sunglasses" type of
designs....


Mooron sees a bright well fit varnished interior and can only assume it
must be plastic.

That Veneer is wonderful stuff... ain't it Bob??!!

This only proves he's sailing an ancient, if
ploddingly capable craft, but remains desperately out of touch.

Uh-Yeah... Shure... sailing a well designed vessel with classic lines is....
? not as much fun as sailing a 50k margarine container with veneer
trim???!!!!

Them's the facts.

The fact is ... I have the better vessel!!

Deal with it.... Get Over It.... your pathethic plastic isn't even listed
in sailcalc!!! How lame is that.... I mean seriously!

CM

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The surveyor was shocked at her condition because most 35s5's have
been raced hard.

Well, since they all seem to finish last that's pretty sad.

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The surveyor was shocked at her condition because most 35s5's have
been raced hard.

Or that's because they are trying hard to stay in front of the boats
that started 5 minutes after them.

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Maybe you could post some "fit and finish" shots of the Benny after 15
or 20 years of sailing....I'm sure you'll find they will look far
worse that any yacht built in the early 90's.....did you not wonder at
the almost stunned exclamations of your surveyor?


Ozzy, you really should know better than that. The surveyor was shocked
at her condition because most 35s5's have been raced hard. No boat
looks good after being put away wet too many time over 15 years. But in
this case the boat was unused for some years and hardly raced at all.
She was used by a dot-com company for entertainment for several years
and the interior was untouched. I looked at an older 345 that was also
in great condition because it was maintained properly. My 35s5 was
built in 1990 by the way. Her fit and finish is above average, "better
than most production boats" as noted by two surveys. She's certainly
nicer than the well regarded C&Cs we looked and a match for the Caliber
and Island Packet. Some construction points for you. Hey deck is
typical cored, with solid sections in loaded areas. Her hull is NOT
cored and uses a lighter weight stringer network for rigidity, key in
weight saving along with her honeycombed interior pieces. 35s5's are
not known to have a weak deck. I found one with one area of wet core
due to a mast impact and bad repair. My deck is bone dry.
In every respect it exceeds Mooron's vessel, both in design and
execution. It's faster, larger, more comfortable in most conditions and
certainly more versatile and fun. There are a zillion boats like
Mooron's...heavy, full keeled beasts with traditional interiors. I
bought the 35s5 because it was one of the few 35 footers that combined
fine performance with splendid accomodation...large sleeping areas, two
private cabins, a large head, swim platform, large cockpit and so on.
Mooron sees a bright well fit varnished interior and can only assume it
must be plastic. This only proves he's sailing an ancient, if
ploddingly capable craft, but remains desperately out of touch.
Them's the facts.

RB
35s5
NY

Jeez, you do go on.......