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South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

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"Gary" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article XvSgf.579668$tl2.187708@pd7tw3no,
Gary wrote:

There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not many
are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.


Where in the PNW? Near Thom?

Victoria, where is Thom?

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Yeah, that's true. It's not a great boat to trailer. I've seen it done, but
it's not fun.

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"Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 04:47:51 GMT, Gary wrote:

Capt.Mooron wrote:
Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
I would think a bulb-like or fin keel would be more appropriate for
what you're looking for. The Cal, for example, has a fairly modern
keel design, given how long ago it was designed.

http://www.sealsspars.com/classy20footer.html



The Cal 20 is a ridiculous choice. It's all cockpit and no cabin. It
performs poorly in heavy air and it is no easier to step the mast than
on a
Nordica 16 or Nordica 20.

The Nordica 20 is one of the few boats that has an inboard diesel, can
be
ramp launched and will sleep 4 in comfort with a built in head , galley
and
has only a 2.5ft draft. It will out perform a Cal 20 anyday as I have
proven
on many occasions. You can actually walk around the deck of a Nordica 20
and
it has life lines all around. The 2 cylinder diesel can be hand cranked,
there is actual plumbing with a sink and stove inside. The bunks are 8
feet.
The storage is excellent.

Fairly modern keel design... what a laugh! The Cal 20 is a low end pig
in a
poke.

CM


There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not
many are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.

Although you can drag a Cal 20 around on a trailer, it's not really
designed as
a "trailer sailer". To be viable a s a true trailer sailer, the boat needs
to
have a fully retractable keel, or a centerboard. Otherwise they are very
hard or
impossible to launch at a large number of ramps. Even a boat with a very
shallow
keel and an internal centerboard, such as the Seaward Fox sits too high
for many
ramps, unless you don't mind submerging the tow vehicle up to the FRONT
wheels
or beyond. Most boat ramps are built and maintained with the idea that the
bulk
of the use will be small power boats. A boat with a 2 or 3 foot draft is
gonna
be difficult to live with as a trailer sailer.





Commodore Joe Redcloud

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

CM

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Stop stalking me Mooron. We all know you're angry, but you're getting
obsessive.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

CM

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


I gather you have issues........
It sounds to me like you haven't been able to successfully argue with
facts so you are resorting to insults.


Wait a minute Gary... this is ASA... insults are part of the package. I
defended Ganz in the past... I even tried to help him along .... but his
actions went south in a hurry last year. Reporting me was just plain
uncalled for.

Bring it up a notch. It's not

like you are living together.


To who's advantage would that be? Since I haven't responded to any of your
posts in the manner I reply to Ganz... I can't understand why it concerns
you?

Don't take this form too seriously...... it will lead to high blood
pressure.

CM


Okay???

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Victoria, where is Thom?


Victoria??!! Isn't that a retirement community? :-)

I was out on Bowen Island visiting a friend who just bought a nice place
there this summer. I spent time at Nanaimo and Salt Spring as well... years
ago. I sailed the roaring Malaspina as well as the Charlottes. I stayed on
Texada and saw Dick Island.... they say when the fog rolls in thick... you
can't see Dick! ::-)

CM


Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?

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I think he's refering to the Victoria Secrets store.


SV

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I think he's refering to the Victoria Secrets store.


Now she has more than one?


RB
35s5
NY

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Well, there's *nothing* wrong with hanging out there.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
oups.com...
I think he's refering to the Victoria Secrets store.


SV

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"Gary" wrote in message

Okay???

BTW - You're in Victoria?.... is there a Dr. D. Kinloch from up Yellowknife
way at your club with a 34 Allberg?? He had a beautiful 22' Allberg in
Yellowknife and won the majority of the Wednesday night races with it.

CM

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"Gary" wrote in message

Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?

Got on a trip years ago with a buddy I met up with in Prince Rupert. It was
on a Gozzard 36. Really nice boat!
I think we had 1 day out of 10 that it didn't rain! :-)

The west coast is an eye candy wonderland.... I love it there but I agree
about the light winds inside.

CM

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Okay???


BTW - You're in Victoria?.... is there a Dr. D. Kinloch from up Yellowknife
way at your club with a 34 Allberg?? He had a beautiful 22' Allberg in
Yellowknife and won the majority of the Wednesday night races with it.

CM


Not in our club. I'm in the Navy club. he may belong to one of the
many other local clubs. Are you friends?

Gaz

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?


Got on a trip years ago with a buddy I met up with in Prince Rupert. It was
on a Gozzard 36. Really nice boat!
I think we had 1 day out of 10 that it didn't rain! :-)

The west coast is an eye candy wonderland.... I love it there but I agree
about the light winds inside.

CM


I spent last summer cruising in the Charlottes and will be sailing back
up there this coming summer for a couple months. I was being facetious
when I said the sailing sucks. I love it. The winds can be flukey in
the summer on the inside, but they are howling northwesters on the
outside. It is a great run down from Alaska or the Charlottes to Juan
de Fuca about 100 miles offshore. 3 or 4 days of spinnaker.

The thing I like most is the abundance of stuff you can eat out of the
water and off the land. It is very heart warming to know that there are
places you can still survive easily.

Gaz

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"Gary" wrote in message
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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Okay???


BTW - You're in Victoria?.... is there a Dr. D. Kinloch from up
Yellowknife way at your club with a 34 Allberg?? He had a beautiful 22'
Allberg in Yellowknife and won the majority of the Wednesday night races
with it.

CM
Not in our club. I'm in the Navy club. he may belong to one of the many
other local clubs. Are you friends?

Yeah.... he and his wife are real nice people and very good sailors. Lost
touch when he retired to Victoria... I know he was looking at an Allberg 30
something.

CM

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"Gary" wrote in message n

I spent last summer cruising in the Charlottes and will be sailing back up
there this coming summer for a couple months. I was being facetious when
I said the sailing sucks. I love it. The winds can be flukey in the
summer on the inside, but they are howling northwesters on the outside.
It is a great run down from Alaska or the Charlottes to Juan de Fuca about
100 miles offshore. 3 or 4 days of spinnaker.

I'd love to do that run. I have never sailed the west side of Vancouver nor
much north of Texada.

The thing I like most is the abundance of stuff you can eat out of the
water and off the land. It is very heart warming to know that there are
places you can still survive easily.

Same thing here on the East Coast... you can live off the sea easily. The
water is clean and deep blue... I sail near Peggy's Cove and the
Southwestern Shore Mahone Bay, Chester and Lunenburg.

We tried Prawn Traps last summer off of Bowen... but we lost every one of
them..... H-m-m-m-m-m... were you in the area :-) I'm figurin' the log booms
scooped them.

CM

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message n


I spent last summer cruising in the Charlottes and will be sailing back up
there this coming summer for a couple months. I was being facetious when
I said the sailing sucks. I love it. The winds can be flukey in the
summer on the inside, but they are howling northwesters on the outside.
It is a great run down from Alaska or the Charlottes to Juan de Fuca about
100 miles offshore. 3 or 4 days of spinnaker.


I'd love to do that run. I have never sailed the west side of Vancouver nor
much north of Texada.
The West Coast of VI is real open ocean sailing. It's best coming over
the top and south. The beat up the straits sucks. North of Texada
(Desolation Sound) is power boat country. A zillion of our southern
cousins and their gin palaces who have run up from Seattle for the warm
water and wilderness. They don't go west because it's too rough.


The thing I like most is the abundance of stuff you can eat out of the
water and off the land. It is very heart warming to know that there are
places you can still survive easily.


Same thing here on the East Coast... you can live off the sea easily. The
water is clean and deep blue... I sail near Peggy's Cove and the
Southwestern Shore Mahone Bay, Chester and Lunenburg.

We tried Prawn Traps last summer off of Bowen... but we lost every one of
them..... H-m-m-m-m-m... were you in the area :-) I'm figurin' the log booms
scooped them.

CM

Traps are attractive. I have spent some time at sea around Halifax and
the south shore (Navy) but not sailing. I have been out here on the west
coast for a long time now (and luvin' it).

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message
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Capt.Mooron wrote:

"Gary" wrote in message



Okay???


BTW - You're in Victoria?.... is there a Dr. D. Kinloch from up
Yellowknife way at your club with a 34 Allberg?? He had a beautiful 22'
Allberg in Yellowknife and won the majority of the Wednesday night races
with it.

CM

Not in our club. I'm in the Navy club. he may belong to one of the many
other local clubs. Are you friends?


Yeah.... he and his wife are real nice people and very good sailors. Lost
touch when he retired to Victoria... I know he was looking at an Allberg 30
something.

CM


I have some connections with other clubs. I can ask around if you like?

Gaz

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"Gary" wrote in message

I have some connections with other clubs. I can ask around if you like?

Certainly.... mention Yellowknife and Overproof. It's Dr. David Kinloch.

CM

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"Gary" wrote in message

Traps are attractive. I have spent some time at sea around Halifax and
the south shore (Navy) but not sailing. I have been out here on the west
coast for a long time now (and luvin' it).

Shearwater... I did some engineering work around there... they upgraded the
diving area. Nice sail club they have.

CM

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:33:13 GMT, Commode

On 22 Nov 2005 12:30:13 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 17:14:25 GMT, Commode Joe
said:

Yeah,

Undisputable proof of an infantile mind.

Yeah, you'd Connie would have at least read the poster's
criteria
before trying to impress everybody with how little he knows
about
boats.

I assume other posters realize my comment related to the
language I quoted
from you.

Well, Duh!