"RB, I've been watching the threads on the PDQ for a few days. I'm not
getting involved, nor will I give you the satisfaction of outing me,
but you can post this if you want to fan the flames. My wife and I
charted a PDQ 36 two years ago from a private owner in Tobago. My wife
owns property there, but we've yet to invest in a boat. It won't be a
PDQ. The thing's a pig, and quite frankly I think Jeff has alluded to
as much in his descriptions, bit by bit. It does go like the dickens
off the wind, but that's about it. Calling tacking tedious or upwind
ability poor is being generous. Our version had no daggerboards and we
had to really fight upwind in situations where a Beneteau Morgan 38
(which we chartered this year) had far less trouble. Sailing through
6-7 foots swells was sickening, like the motion of a powerboat. We
could not get used to it and I've been sailing for 26 years. When
anchored the PDQ has no rivals. It's almost a house on the water and
you see a lot just riding their anchors for days on end. There's just
no fun factor before "getting there" and I'd probably compare it to a
minivan. Under sail I'd prefer anything else, but then I swing to the
performance end as you do. For a house on the water I'm sorry, but Jeff
has you beat. As a sailing boat I'm sure Jeff knows what his boat is
and isn't. There's no comparing the PDQ to the sensation of sailing a
well balanced and fast monohull, but then no one should make that
comparison either. When he says he can't use a head on a heeled boat I
think we all know what type of sailor he is. His last boat was a
Nonsuch and he claims he can get the "fun" from sailing a dinghy. We
all know that folks who say that rarely do. The 35s5 looks like a lot
of fun. Enjoy!"


RB
35s5....so clearly superior!
NY

Your writing is getting a bit better, boobie. Nice fiction. And what
the hell is a "Beneteau Morgan 38"? And clearly your puppet hasn't
read what I wrote, or he would appreciate that that on most boats,
heads are mounted athwartships, not fore and aft. Show me a cruising
boat that does that, other than a "Beneteau Morgan 38."

And for every post from someone who doesn't like cats, I can find 100
from people that think the bendy toys are crap. Just recently someone
posted in this forum that any 35s5 that had been raced for a few years
was burned out. Another post talked about one that looked nice but
couldn't pass survey.


Capt. Rob wrote:
"RB, I've been watching the threads on the PDQ for a few days. I'm not
getting involved, nor will I give you the satisfaction of outing me,
but you can post this if you want to fan the flames. My wife and I
charted a PDQ 36 two years ago from a private owner in Tobago. My wife
owns property there, but we've yet to invest in a boat. It won't be a
PDQ. The thing's a pig, and quite frankly I think Jeff has alluded to
as much in his descriptions, bit by bit. It does go like the dickens
off the wind, but that's about it. Calling tacking tedious or upwind
ability poor is being generous. Our version had no daggerboards and we
had to really fight upwind in situations where a Beneteau Morgan 38
(which we chartered this year) had far less trouble. Sailing through
6-7 foots swells was sickening, like the motion of a powerboat. We
could not get used to it and I've been sailing for 26 years. When
anchored the PDQ has no rivals. It's almost a house on the water and
you see a lot just riding their anchors for days on end. There's just
no fun factor before "getting there" and I'd probably compare it to a
minivan. Under sail I'd prefer anything else, but then I swing to the
performance end as you do. For a house on the water I'm sorry, but Jeff
has you beat. As a sailing boat I'm sure Jeff knows what his boat is
and isn't. There's no comparing the PDQ to the sensation of sailing a
well balanced and fast monohull, but then no one should make that
comparison either. When he says he can't use a head on a heeled boat I
think we all know what type of sailor he is. His last boat was a
Nonsuch and he claims he can get the "fun" from sailing a dinghy. We
all know that folks who say that rarely do. The 35s5 looks like a lot
of fun. Enjoy!"


RB
35s5....so clearly superior!
NY

Your writing is getting a bit better, boobie. Nice fiction. And what
the hell is a "Beneteau Morgan 38"?

The Beneteau MOORINGS 38 is probably what he meant, but I don't edit
someone elses comments. Beneteau built modified first 38's for charter.
No nav station. More room below. More conservative rig.

And for every post from someone who doesn't like cats, I can find
100
from people that think the bendy toys are crap.

Be sensible. Beneteau is the top sailboat builder in the world. They've
made some lemons to be sure. They are also a top charter boat.

Just recently someone
posted in this forum that any 35s5 that had been raced for a few years
was burned out. Another post talked about one that looked nice but
couldn't pass survey.

There's a J105 at City Island Yacht club that has been raced for 3
years and looks like death warmed over. There's also Valiant 39 that
failed survey again and again. 95% of a boat's condition is dependent
on owner upkeep. Look at Neal's Coronado. It's one of the lowest end
boats ever, yet he took care of it and it's still sound and looking
bristol. You know better than to post such silly comments.
See my latest...and final thread on the matter.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
Your writing is getting a bit better, boobie. Nice fiction. And what
the hell is a "Beneteau Morgan 38"?

The Beneteau MOORINGS 38 is probably what he meant, but I don't edit
someone elses comments. Beneteau built modified first 38's for charter.
No nav station. More room below. More conservative rig.

Or was it a Catalina Morgan 38? Who knows, certainly not your
"reviewer." Did he sail a PDQ or was it a Prout? I have no doubt
that some monohull sailors don't like cats - it doesn't bother me at all.



And for every post from someone who doesn't like cats, I can find
100
from people that think the bendy toys are crap.

Be sensible. Beneteau is the top sailboat builder in the world. They've
made some lemons to be sure. They are also a top charter boat.

yada yada yada. Do you have a point? Do we have to repost everything
you've said about bendy's? Which do we believe?



Just recently someone
posted in this forum that any 35s5 that had been raced for a few years
was burned out. Another post talked about one that looked nice but
couldn't pass survey.

There's a J105 at City Island Yacht club that has been raced for 3
years and looks like death warmed over. There's also Valiant 39 that
failed survey again and again. 95% of a boat's condition is dependent
on owner upkeep. Look at Neal's Coronado. It's one of the lowest end
boats ever, yet he took care of it and it's still sound and looking
bristol. You know better than to post such silly comments.
See my latest...and final thread on the matter.

I'm a bit curious about the history of yours. The broker said it was
"fresh water" until last year. It sort of sounds like your PO found
one on a lake that had never been sailed and brought to FL. However,
he didn't like it compared to his Tartan.

However,
he didn't like it compared to his Tartan.


He's 73. This was his second 35s5, so he clearly likes it a lot. He
sold the last one after an injury seemed to all but end his sailing
days. He bought another 35s5, then found his knees and hip made getting
around deck difficult. The Tartan is a flush deck and racing is all he
does. The 35s5 was doomed to just sit there, so he sold it to me. He's
happy that a family will get some use out of it...and so are we. We
paid less than anyone else has that I could find and have a unique
boat. The boat could never have been better maintained. For whatever
it's worth, the boat was owned by some folks at Microsoft at one point.
It barely got used in those years and ended up in indoor storage for a
while This, in part, explains the amazing surveyed condition. Or as he
said, "15 year old gelcoat doesn't look this good without a reason."
I gave the Doug the name of the owner to look up as he pleases, not
that the history is important to me...but it does give some indication
as to why her condition is superb, or as the surveyor put it, the
nicest 15 year old boat he's ever seen. Before you go into a tailspin,
I suggest you wait for the Hires pics which will show what appears to
be a nearly new boat...at just over 15 years of age.


RB
35s5
NY

Interestin that your 'expert' doesn't know what he sailed this
year....

Hey, don't look at me. I knew what he meant. Not too hard to figure out
Morgan meanth Moorings, especially since he said he was chartering a
First 38, which most probably meant it was not to ancient and that
meant a charter version...easy to figure out and I actually saw
"Moorings" until Jeff was so easily confused. I trust you weren't.
As far as the comment on Cat owners liking Monohulls, I don't agree,
plain and simple. And where did you get the idea I don't like Cats?
When I'm along in years I'll probably consider one along with a
motorsailor. But for now...I'm young and we plan to have some!

RB
35s5
NY

Be sensible. Beneteau is the top sailboat builder in the world.
They've
made some lemons to be sure. They are also a top charter boat..

Hey Dopey, I think your confusing your english. Don't substitute "top"
for "largest" Also they are popular with charter compaines because
they are cheap and they cram a lot of cabins into a particular length.

My wife and I
charted a PDQ 36 two years ago from a private owner in Tobago. My wife


A load of crap. Everybody here knows you would have posted for a week
on the topic if you would have chartered. Plus correct me if I'm wrong
but you didn't pick your wife up on 42nd street that long ago.

Also they are popular with charter compaines because
they are cheap and they cram a lot of cabins into a particular
length.


The 35s5 was more expensive per foot than your boat, even in adjusted
dollars. Beneteau has boats with 2-3 cabins, just like most other
builders. Do they make one with more for the Chinese market?

teach us, Loco!

RB
35s5
NY