35s5 Details... now *here* is a NICE boat
 

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DSK wrote:
Sounds like more waffling & backpedaling to me, Bubbles doesn't know
diddley about the process of buying a boat because he's never bought
one. But he has heard people talking about surveys, so he thought he
should "get" one too.


Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I don't know. I'm totally confused at this point. The latest post from
Bob claims that you didn't think an offer should be made prior to
survey.

???
I never said anything like that

No broker out here
would allow that.


I'm not sure, but paying for a survey with no offer accepted would be
stupid... hey wait, this is Boobsie after all...

Well, out here they would just laugh and assume you were either not a
serious buyer or were unfamiliar with the process. The Cal Dept. of
Boating and Waterways even has a brochure that describes the
procedure.... http://dbw.ca.gov/Pubs/UsedBoat/index.htm


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

The asking price on the 1990 35s5 was 64'900.00. After seeing what a
creampuff the boat was I decided to discuss an offer prior to the
survey. Part of the problem was her location of course. It would be

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Spring! Pictures will be posted shortly...probably on the 22nd when we
get back and then on the 23rd when she comes home!


Robert B
35s5
NY

Everyone else appears to prefer blowing you ****, Bubbles. I'm just going
to say *congratulations.* I think you've acquired a really nice boat. I
checked out the listing, and the boat appears to be in good condition with
acceptable upgrades and improvements. I would agree that it will be a long
winter for you. Enjoy.

Max

35s5 Details... now *here* is a NICE boat
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
I missed two bad hoses
because I couldn't fit into the sail locker.

I thought you said it had lots of room...????

CM

35s5 Details... now *here* is a NICE boat
 

And we still got a
better deal than anyone else has on 35s5's not even close to this
condition.

I guess then that most owners of these boats don't consider them worth
taking care of. OR are most owners of these things just a bunch of
dimwits. Which is it?

35s5 Details
 

$54,770 - $65,925 is the NADA range, but it doesn't include
provisions for the full new canvas package, Air conditiioning and heat
and unusual condition of the vessel. The air conditioning reciepts
alone (just 15 months old) were for 6K. The new bimini and dodger
(never installed) cost 4K. All new rigging....many new
electronics....hatch/port canvas covers...the list is just beyond
anything else on the market and then you just drop when you see her
condition. Or as the survey says....

"Windward First is a very well outfitted example of this model that
shows ample evidence of an ongoing program of care and maintenance. Her
interior spaces are clean and well kept, wiring and plumbing systems
neat and orderly, engine and associated machinery appear nearly new,
and the topsides could easily pass for a five rather than fifteen year
old boat. Her equipment list includes excellent current marine
electronics including autopilot, current safety gear and excellent sail
inventory. Additionally she has marine refrigeration and central marine
conditioning and heating. The overall condition would be considered
outstanding for the age, size, and type.
Inspection of the underbody at haulout, showed good anti-fouling
applied over a relatively smooth and fair surface working well to
inhibit hard marine growth. There was no evidence of osmotic blisters
on or about the underbody, quite remarkable for a boat of this age is
these warm southern waters. This underbody is outstanding and shows its
owners have kept up with service to the underbody.
ESTIMATED FAIR MARKET VALUE $69,500.00
ESTIMATED REPLACEMENT VALUE $155,000.00

Robert B
35s5...the nicest boat on the list! By Far!
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

[ I think I'm gonna love my B35s5, etc. ]

What are the differences between the 35s5 and the 35s7?

(One of the latter was just brought into a slip in a marina near us
waiting to be hauled for the winter - verrrrryy broad-beamed compared
to the nearby J-109.)

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What are the differences between the 35s5 and the 35s7?


The 35s7 is more refined, but the port treatment and flying saucer
design is hard to swallow for some. I couldn't even find one locally to
look at. They're also too close in price to a used 36.7 I think.

RB
35s5
NY

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What are the differences between the 35s5 and the 35s7?


Capt. Rob wrote:
The 35s7 is more refined, but the port treatment and flying saucer
design is hard to swallow for some. I couldn't even find one locally to
look at. They're also too close in price to a used 36.7 I think.


You don't really know the difference, do you?

For one thing, they're newer.

BTW the B-36.7 which you think is "too expensive" has a bit more room, a
better working deck layout, and it rates 72 PHRF. In other words, about
a minute a mile faster than your boat... there are 3 in our area, maybe
I'll get one for some one-design racing...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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BTW the B-36.7 which you think is "too expensive" has a bit more room,
a
better working deck layout, and it rates 72 PHRF. In other words, about

a minute a mile faster than your boat... there are 3 in our area, maybe

I'll get one for some one-design racing...


Take a look inside a 36.7, Doug. The interior is pretty plain and not
well done fit and finish wise. It's a faster boat that costs almost
twice what we paid. The 35s5 is the better cruiser by far. Because of
the cabin I'd have to go to the larger First series to begin to compare
it to the 35s5 for family use.
That said if you want to race more than cruise and do family daysails,
a 36.7 is pretty cool. It would be great if you bought one, Doug. For
about 100K there's not much out there that can touch it, but a 34XL or
37XL aint bad either...and are more cruisable while still being quite
fast. 37XLs are in the 120K range at best.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
$54,770 - $65,925 is the NADA range, but it doesn't include
provisions for the full new canvas package, Air conditiioning and heat
and unusual condition of the vessel. The air conditioning reciepts
alone (just 15 months old) were for 6K. The new bimini and dodger
(never installed) cost 4K. All new rigging....many new
electronics....hatch/port canvas covers...the list is just beyond
anything else on the market and then you just drop when you see her
condition. Or as the survey says....


ESTIMATED FAIR MARKET VALUE $69,500.00
ESTIMATED REPLACEMENT VALUE $155,000.00


replacement cost
Definition

The amount it would cost to replace an asset at current prices. If the cost
of replacing an asset in its current physical condition is lower than the
cost of replacing the asset so as to obtain the level of services enjoyed
when the asset was bought, then the asset is in poor condition and the firm
would probably not want to replace it.



Robert B
35s5...the nicest boat on the list! By Far!
NY