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John Cairns wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
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Multihulls do have a different motion, but it's hardly likely to make
anyone sick.

Capt. Rob wrote:
Doug, you are so clearly an idiot, it's just amazing that your next
breath doesn't just kill you.

OOooo good one

...ANY unusual motion might make someone
feel sick, whether it be on a boat, car or an amusement park ride.

Uh huh. Usually small children and Pekinese dogs.


.... I myself get sick on
powerboats, especially larger ones and Suzanne and I both noted we
didn't like the motion of the cat which we sailed in some good chop
near Niantic.

So, what you're really saying is that you both are sickly &
weak-stomached, prone to upset tummy, and not really suited for all this
sailing stuff on water that gets a bit wavy?

DSK


You know, I've been offshore with someone on more than one occasion that was
prone to seasickness, never stopped them from going. Seasickness is a very
poor excuse indeed.


Offshore the wind waves are superimposed on top of long ocean swells.
Its the combination of these two that can get to people who are
normally immune. Most people get used to it within a few days.
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Multihulls do have a different motion, but it's hardly likely to make
anyone sick.


Doug, you are so clearly an idiot, it's just amazing that your next
breath doesn't just kill you. ANY unusual motion might make someone
feel sick, whether it be on a boat, car or an amusement park ride.
Inner ear problems are highly variable. I myself get sick on
powerboats, especially larger ones and Suzanne and I both noted we
didn't like the motion of the cat which we sailed in some good chop
near Niantic.


Now we understand why you won't sail outside of your very sheltered
waters. It sounds a lot like you sailed with an inexperienced
skipper, or perhaps someone who had no sympathy for novices.

Again, are you sure it was a PDQ - which boat was it?
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Offshore the wind waves are superimposed on top of long ocean swells.
Its the combination of these two that can get to people who are
normally immune. Most people get used to it within a few days.


Read that AGAIN, Doug!!! So Jeff, who sadly owns a cat proves you
WRONG!
The best is when you trip eachother up!!!!
Doug is BUSTED!!!

RB
35s5...a no-seasickness design hull!
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Offshore the wind waves are superimposed on top of long ocean swells.
Its the combination of these two that can get to people who are
normally immune. Most people get used to it within a few days.


Read that AGAIN, Doug!!! So Jeff, who sadly owns a cat proves you
WRONG!
The best is when you trip eachother up!!!!
Doug is BUSTED!!!

RB
35s5...a no-seasickness design hull, as long as it stays in the slip!
NY


Uh, and your point is that you stay in LIS because you get seasick?
Isn't that what everyone is saying? If you get seasick on a cat in
calm weather, the its best you never go cruising. The bendy is the
perfect choice for you.
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"Swab Rob" wrote


If you don't like healing,



don't marry a nurse?


pure genius, Bob.


SV




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Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Steve Thomas" wrote in message ...
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| http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4416828.stm
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| 2 capsized and 1 dismasted in trans Atlantic race.
|
| --
| Steve Thomas
|
|

There's your proof, Jeff Morris, that multihulls are inherently
unstable. Ask yourself, in the same race, how many monohulls
capsized.

CN

Not unstable, they have great initial stability, thats why they are so
fast. But they also have great initial stability upside down. They do
lousy angles of vanishing stabilty.
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Capt. Rob wrote:
There's your proof, Jeff Morris, that multihulls are inherently
unstable. Ask yourself, in the same race, how many monohulls
capsized.


Boats like Jeffs are not known to be inherently unstable. In fact they
are quite safe. If you don't like healing, or the feel of a fast
monohull sliding through the water, a trawler or Cat may be best. When
we went out on the PDQ, my wife actually said the motion of the cat was
making her feel sick. She never had that problem even on the tender
Pearson 30.
A Catamaran like Jeff's is not what the thrill of sailing is all about.
And that's a fact. It may be fast but so is a Jetski which also isn't
something most sailors want. Comparing the cat to my 35s5 is sort of
like comparing a Motorhome to a Lotus. Until I'm old and worn out I'll
take the Lotus!


RB
35s5...the best performance boat here!
NY

Not what the thrill of sailing is all about?
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Jeff wrote:
John Cairns wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
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Multihulls do have a different motion, but it's hardly likely to make
anyone sick.

Capt. Rob wrote:

Doug, you are so clearly an idiot, it's just amazing that your next
breath doesn't just kill you.

OOooo good one

...ANY unusual motion might make someone
feel sick, whether it be on a boat, car or an amusement park ride.

Uh huh. Usually small children and Pekinese dogs.


.... I myself get sick on
powerboats, especially larger ones and Suzanne and I both noted we
didn't like the motion of the cat which we sailed in some good chop
near Niantic.

So, what you're really saying is that you both are sickly &
weak-stomached, prone to upset tummy, and not really suited for all
this sailing stuff on water that gets a bit wavy?

DSK



You know, I've been offshore with someone on more than one occasion
that was prone to seasickness, never stopped them from going.
Seasickness is a very poor excuse indeed.



Offshore the wind waves are superimposed on top of long ocean swells.
Its the combination of these two that can get to people who are normally
immune. Most people get used to it within a few days.

No-one is immune. It just takes the right day and the right night before.
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Uh, and your point is that you stay in LIS because you get seasick?
Isn't that what everyone is saying? If you get seasick on a cat in
calm weather, the its best you never go cruising.


Never got seasick in my life and we sailed the cat in pretty choppy
conditions. Never said I stay in LIS for any reason. It gets rough even
on the sound, or haven't you heard? The cat was awful. I'm hardly the
first person to complain about a Cat's motion in chop. Thanks for
proving Doug wrong!

RB
35s5
NY

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"Gary" wrote in message news1ccf.442767$1i.383930@pd7tw2no...
| Capt. Neal® wrote:
| "Steve Thomas" wrote in message ...
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| | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/4416828.stm
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| | 2 capsized and 1 dismasted in trans Atlantic race.
| |
| | --
| | Steve Thomas
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| |
|
| There's your proof, Jeff Morris, that multihulls are inherently
| unstable. Ask yourself, in the same race, how many monohulls
| capsized.
|
| CN
| Not unstable, they have great initial stability, thats why they are so
| fast. But they also have great initial stability upside down. They do
| lousy angles of vanishing stabilty.


Jeff's always whining, "Gimme proof, gimme proof" every time
I mention how multihulls are more stable upside-down than rightside-
up but every time I give him the proof he tries to wiggle around like
the proverbial worm on the hood and obfuscate by saying idiotic
things like "Them's were trimarans not catamarans, as if a catamaran
wasn't a multihull.

The man just refuses to believe a multihull - although it has some virtues -
in inherently unseaworthy and all it takes is to look at the pictures of what
happens to them in a little ole gale of about fifty knots to see how unsafe
they are when the elements get a bit rowdy.

I've even heard tell of multihulls on mooring turning turtle during a good
blow and that NEVER happens to ballasted monohulls.

CN

 
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