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Loco, Katy, neal, Scotty, John, Joe, Thom and most others here ALL have slower less roomy less fun boats compared to the stunningly quick and richly appointed First 35s5! RB |
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Do you have any tips to make my boat faster?
Scotty "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Loco, Katy, neal, Scotty, John, Joe, Thom and most others here ALL have slower less roomy less fun boats compared to the stunningly quick and richly appointed First 35s5! RB |
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Do you have any tips to make my boat faster?
Why do you want to faster? Your boat was built as a family cruiser and is rated around 170-180 last time I looked. Same as Catalina and Pearson's of that vintage. It is what it is and that should be fine...but...you some things that worked for me... 1) Untie the dock lines 2) get a folding prop 3) Get new sails or have old ones recut 4) Install tracks for better sheeting angles 5) Clean bottom and remove wax from hull 6) mark shaft log so you can alighn bladed with keel 7) Refine your trim habits 8) Lose weight Nothing improves performance like new sails. I bet even Loco would agree with that one. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Do you have any tips to make my boat faster? Why do you want to faster? So you stop picking on me. 1) Untie the dock lines Won't it float away? 2) get a folding prop 3) Get new sails or have old ones recut OK, maybe next year. 4) Install tracks for better sheeting angles 5) Clean bottom and remove wax from hull Do keep bottom clean. 6) mark shaft log so you can alighn bladed with keel I've got a big 3 blade prop. Great for backing. 7) Refine your trim habits Too lazy. 8) Lose weight Yes, Mom. |
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Why do you want to faster?
So you stop picking on me. I see your goal is to make me feel bad today. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Why do you want to faster? So you stop picking on me. I see your goal is to make me feel bad today. Seems to be working!! :-) CM |
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RedCloud ~ Steady 9 knots, 42 ft without wasting space on a fatboy
staircase on the stern. No blisters or smiles, 7' headroom... wheelhouse room for 8, More AC, Generator, More sails, stronger, more water, fuel, holding tank, better navigation equipment, better pumps, better fire fighting,lifesaving equip, better dink, better liferaft, more freezer space, fridge space, better stove, larger shower & head, TV,s Stereos, Computers, Lighting, Sonar,larger bunks with more leg room, better interior fit and trim using better grades of wood, not the veneer crap all production boats have, Better chronometers, and barometers...oh and about 3 times the interior space as your little plastic bat cave has. Not that I'm bragging. Just giving you a small glimpse of reality. Joe |
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And, it's damn nice looking, seaworthy, and I suspect seakindly.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... RedCloud ~ Steady 9 knots, 42 ft without wasting space on a fatboy staircase on the stern. No blisters or smiles, 7' headroom... wheelhouse room for 8, More AC, Generator, More sails, stronger, more water, fuel, holding tank, better navigation equipment, better pumps, better fire fighting,lifesaving equip, better dink, better liferaft, more freezer space, fridge space, better stove, larger shower & head, TV,s Stereos, Computers, Lighting, Sonar,larger bunks with more leg room, better interior fit and trim using better grades of wood, not the veneer crap all production boats have, Better chronometers, and barometers...oh and about 3 times the interior space as your little plastic bat cave has. Not that I'm bragging. Just giving you a small glimpse of reality. Joe |
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Not that I'm bragging. Just giving you a small glimpse of reality.
Joe, around here your boat is a powerboat. It's too heavy and couldn't win a race against my boat in a million years. RB 35s5...faster than Joe's metal monster! NY |
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Race you across the Atlantic in winter for pink slips. New York to
London. You would be out of the running just when RedCloud started streaching her legs. I would finish in comfort.... and you would be batter and bruised beyond reconition.. if your boat did not fall apart and somehow made it across. Joe |
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Now Joe..... asking someone to an ocean race that has never left the
harbour.... is bad enough! .... but when the boat you challenge is designed to require reefing in 10 kts of wind.... well that's just plain low to taunt a pond skimming fin keeler that way! CM "Joe" wrote in message Race you across the Atlantic in winter for pink slips. New York to London. You would be out of the running just when RedCloud started streaching her legs. I would finish in comfort.... and you would be batter and bruised beyond reconition.. if your boat did not fall apart and somehow made it across. Joe |
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Yeah she's red.... and rides like a cloud.
Joe |
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Well ****.... he said any race!.............Why bother with racing
around a cess pool like LIS? If your going to race on lakes use a 49er or something fun. Not a daysailor like Bob is paying to store and truck around the highways of the east coast. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message oups.com... | Yeah she's red.... and rides like a cloud. | | Joe | And is about as solid. CN |
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Solid as steel.
Joe |
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Race you across the Atlantic in winter for pink slips. New York to
London. Joe, few or none of us are racing to London. And I haven't seen you off this group to even go for a daysail. We're coastal sailors and in most conditions my boat will toast yours upwind and "semi planing" a lot faster than 9 knots downwind. Let's be real. Do let us know when you leave for London though! RB 35s5...faster than Joe's cruiser for sure! NY |
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Quit back paddleing bubbles. RedCloud if she raced your daysailor
across the Atlantic no way in a million years could you keep up. BTW I just got back from a week offshore. Sailed over 300 miles and spent 90% of the time over 50 miles offshore.Just MsTerry Skipper and I, you should try it some day. Might suprise you just how dark the sky is offshore void of lubbers lights you can see every star. If I had to buy the fish I now have in the freezer it would have cost me over 500 dollars. Now that the big shrimp are moving into the bay we will get the net out of storage and have some profitable night sails in the bays. Joe MSV RedCloud....More boat that bubbles could ever handle |
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BTW I
just got back from a week offshore. Really and truly? I was just on the Moon with my wife and son. We really had a good time, but it was cold. RB 35s5...a real boat that will really sail! NY |
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RedCloud if she raced your daysailor
across the Atlantic no way in a million years could you keep up. Hardly likely that you'd beat a boat capable of surfing along at 13 knots plus. And in lighter air we always toast you. You'd need winds strong enough to push you to hull speed that weren't strong enough to send us planing or semi planing. True light air would also leave in our wake. Sorry, Joe. The physics aint on your side, but keep dreaming! RB 35s5...a boat that is fast all of the time! NY |
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Bubbles get out in 12 footers + with your thin skinned frenchy boat...
and you will throw up the white surrended flag faster than the typical frenchman who dropped ciggarette ashes into your watered down resin. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote ... Bubbles get out in 12 footers + with your thin skinned frenchy boat... and you will throw up yup |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:mR4bf.79912$S4.12814@edtnps84... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Why do you want to faster? So you stop picking on me. I see your goal is to make me feel bad today. Seems to be working!! :-) CM Hey, Cannuck. Glad to see you've returned. Just checked back in myself, now that the boat is on the hard and most, if not all, of the malcontents (crossposting idiot flonkers) have departed. How ya been? Max |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:mR4bf.79912$S4.12814@edtnps84... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Why do you want to faster? So you stop picking on me. I see your goal is to make me feel bad today. Seems to be working!! :-) CM Hey, Cannuck. Glad to see you've returned. Just checked back in myself, now that the boat is on the hard and most, if not all, of the malcontents (crossposting idiot flonkers) have departed. How ya been? Worked all summer..... 14 and 16 hour days... 7 days a week. Boat never got launched. Need I say more? Ganz got me booted for calling him queer.... just got back online last month. Writing reports now. CM |
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Joe wrote:
Bubbles get out in 12 footers + with your thin skinned frenchy boat... and you will throw up the white surrended flag faster than the typical frenchman who dropped ciggarette ashes into your watered down resin. I think you're right about Boobsie- but then he never claimed he wanted to actually sail in the real ocean. You're wrong about the boat though. If decently equipped and competently sailed, could turn in some pretty good times on passages. The Hunter I delivered this spring from Florida made a 240+ mile day in relatively tough conditions. DSK |
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You're wrong about the boat though. If decently equipped and
competently sailed, could turn in some pretty good times on passages. Mooron doesn't agree. He keeps insisting that his full keeler is the only way to go. Robert B 35s5...a boat that sails circles around Mooron's boat and ALL conditions! NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message Mooron doesn't agree. He keeps insisting that his full keeler is the only way to go. Goes without saying Bob..... plus my boat has classic lines and doesn't look like just another "car in the parking lot" like the C&C does. Let's face it.... there is nothing of note in design nor lines on the C&C.... From stem to stern it has the character of a margarine container..... and I don't care how much fancy veneer you put inside that container. Now I'm not saying it's a bad vessel... it's not. It seems to suit the type of sailing you do, you seem to like it..... and that's all that counts. Now as far as taking that plastic offshore like Doug .... don't think about it... Doug has wa-a-a-a-a-y-y-y-y-y more experience sailing than you do. Now to give you perspective... my buddy sailed a 29 Bayfield across the Atlantic. He ran into a 50+kt gale before making landfall in the Azores. Although he weathered the storm without too much problems... 2 French vessels of over 35 ft suffered serious damage and one was dismasted. CM |
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Well, I must not have done a very good job! You're still here.
You post about me at every opportunity. I think you have some personality problems, and you are a very angry person. You really need help. I suggest a psychologist, and if that doesn't work a psyhiatrist. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:DlBbf.107480$Io.38280@clgrps13... Hey, Cannuck. Glad to see you've returned. Just checked back in myself, now that the boat is on the hard and most, if not all, of the malcontents (crossposting idiot flonkers) have departed. How ya been? Worked all summer..... 14 and 16 hour days... 7 days a week. Boat never got launched. Need I say more? Ganz got me booted for calling him queer.... just got back online last month. Writing reports now. CM |
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Bwhahahahahahaaa
Typical Cry Baby Gaynzy comeback..... 1. - you're picking on me 2.- you're angry 3.- you have issues 4.- you need help 5.- repeat as required and netkop Jon if you can't afford wit... buy a frickin personality! You're such a two faced little weasel. CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Well, I must not have done a very good job! You're still here. You post about me at every opportunity. I think you have some personality problems, and you are a very angry person. You really need help. I suggest a psychologist, and if that doesn't work a psyhiatrist. |
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Such anger... you really need to get help. Very sad and pathetic.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:XxObf.110004$ir4.70846@edtnps90... Bwhahahahahahaaa Typical Cry Baby Gaynzy comeback..... 1. - you're picking on me 2.- you're angry 3.- you have issues 4.- you need help 5.- repeat as required and netkop Jon if you can't afford wit... buy a frickin personality! You're such a two faced little weasel. CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Well, I must not have done a very good job! You're still here. You post about me at every opportunity. I think you have some personality problems, and you are a very angry person. You really need help. I suggest a psychologist, and if that doesn't work a psyhiatrist. |
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SEE!!!!!... answers 2 ; 3 & 4
Bwahahahahahahhaaaa CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message Such anger... you really need to get help. Very sad and pathetic. "Capt.Mooron" wrote Bwhahahahahahaaa Typical Cry Baby Gaynzy comeback..... 1. - you're picking on me 2.- you're angry 3.- you have issues 4.- you need help 5.- repeat as required and netkop Jon if you can't afford wit... buy a frickin personality! You're such a two faced little weasel. CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Well, I must not have done a very good job! You're still here. You post about me at every opportunity. I think you have some personality problems, and you are a very angry person. You really need help. I suggest a psychologist, and if that doesn't work a psyhiatrist. |
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You're really quite pathetic. You can't ignore me, even if you try. That
says quite a bit about your problem. Suggestion: Try not to rant too much, as it will get the better of you pretty quickly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:rAPbf.110018$ir4.72731@edtnps90... SEE!!!!!... answers 2 ; 3 & 4 Bwahahahahahahhaaaa CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message Such anger... you really need to get help. Very sad and pathetic. "Capt.Mooron" wrote Bwhahahahahahaaa Typical Cry Baby Gaynzy comeback..... 1. - you're picking on me 2.- you're angry 3.- you have issues 4.- you need help 5.- repeat as required and netkop Jon if you can't afford wit... buy a frickin personality! You're such a two faced little weasel. CM "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Well, I must not have done a very good job! You're still here. You post about me at every opportunity. I think you have some personality problems, and you are a very angry person. You really need help. I suggest a psychologist, and if that doesn't work a psyhiatrist. |
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Capt.Mooron wrote:
Let's face it.... there is nothing of note in design nor lines on the C&C.... From stem to stern it has the character of a margarine container..... and I don't care how much fancy veneer you put inside that container. Oh, I dunno. The fancy veneer does make it look nicer, but it doesn't change the nature of the boat. Now I'm not saying it's a bad vessel... it's not. It seems to suit the type of sailing you do, you seem to like it..... and that's all that counts. Yeah, but that's not enough for Boobsie. He has to try to get other people's attention, to compensate for the fact that his mother didn't love him when he was little. Now as far as taking that plastic offshore like Doug .... don't think about it... Doug has wa-a-a-a-a-y-y-y-y-y more experience sailing than you do. Boobsie will never go anywhere off the edge of his Texaco road map. Not a problem for him. Now to give you perspective... my buddy sailed a 29 Bayfield across the Atlantic. He ran into a 50+kt gale before making landfall in the Azores. Although he weathered the storm without too much problems... 2 French vessels of over 35 ft suffered serious damage and one was dismasted. 50 knots is a tough wind, but it is the sea state that really damages boats & crew IMHO. Was the dismasted boat rolled? DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message Oh, I dunno. The fancy veneer does make it look nicer, but it doesn't change the nature of the boat. Only on the inside..... Yeah, but that's not enough for Boobsie. He has to try to get other people's attention, to compensate for the fact that his mother didn't love him when he was little. Probably explains his need to breast feed. Boobsie will never go anywhere off the edge of his Texaco road map. Not a problem for him. If he ever does..... we'll hear about it to no end. 50 knots is a tough wind, but it is the sea state that really damages boats & crew IMHO. Was the dismasted boat rolled? Apparently not a complete 360..... but it was trashed pretty good. The thing is that the Bayfield 29 weathered it without a hitch and made good way. CM |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:DlBbf.107480$Io.38280@clgrps13... "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:mR4bf.79912$S4.12814@edtnps84... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Why do you want to faster? So you stop picking on me. I see your goal is to make me feel bad today. Seems to be working!! :-) CM Hey, Cannuck. Glad to see you've returned. Just checked back in myself, now that the boat is on the hard and most, if not all, of the malcontents (crossposting idiot flonkers) have departed. How ya been? Worked all summer..... 14 and 16 hour days... 7 days a week. Boat never got launched. Need I say more? Ganz got me booted for calling him queer.... just got back online last month. Writing reports now. So the stories were true about his netkkopping. Sorry to hear that. Welcome back. Max |
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Looks like Maxipad is back. Welcome back Maxipad. Better watch out, you'll
get booted off, but still be able to post. I heard that moon is made out of green cheese. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Captain Joe Redcloud" wrote in message ... On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:10:36 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: Ganz got me booted for calling him queer.... just got back online last month. Writing reports now. So the stories were true about his netkkopping. Sorry to hear that. Welcome back. Max Yes. Everything people tell you in a usenet group is true. Count on it! Commodore Joe Redcloud |
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50 knots is a tough wind, but it is the sea state that really damages
boats & crew IMHO. Was the dismasted boat rolled? Capt.Mooron wrote: Apparently not a complete 360..... but it was trashed pretty good. The thing is that the Bayfield 29 weathered it without a hitch and made good way. Well, it's a question of how the boat is equipped and handled as much as it is the basic design... within limits, which those Beneteaus should not have been exceeding in a 50 knot gale in open sea. At some point along the way up the scale, things might start coming apart, but I've sailed worse boats in 45+. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"Maxprop" wrote: "Capt.Mooron" wrote: "Maxprop" wrote: Hey, Cannuck. Glad to see you've returned. Just checked back in myself, now that the boat is on the hard and most, if not all, of the malcontents (crossposting idiot flonkers) have departed. How ya been? Worked all summer..... 14 and 16 hour days... 7 days a week. Boat never got launched. Need I say more? Ganz got me booted for calling him queer.... just got back online last month. Writing reports now. So the stories were true about his netkkopping. Sorry to hear that. Welcome back. Hi Max, Glad to see you are back. I tried to tell you and the group about Jonathan, some of his own netkkkoping words were posted on here by admin's and other interested parties. Did you get hit by Sunday night's tornado? LP |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:qOacf.4321$4l5.1037@dukeread05... | | Hi Max, | Glad to see you are back. I tried to tell you and the group about Jonathan, | some of his own netkkkoping words were posted on here by admin's and other | interested parties. | | Did you get hit by Sunday night's tornado? | | LP | | Don't you realize yet that all but one or two people have put you into the Bozo bin with the rest of the ignorant and obnoxious DB6 dweebs? I'm just watching you squirm a little before I toss you into my kill file. CN |
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote: | | Hi Max, | Glad to see you are back. I tried to tell you and the group about Jonathan, | some of his own netkkkoping words were posted on here by admin's and other | interested parties. | | Did you get hit by Sunday night's tornado? | | LP | | Don't you realize yet that all but one or two people have put you into the Bozo bin with the rest of the ignorant and obnoxious DB6 dweebs? I'm just watching you squirm a little before I toss you into my kill file. CN Sorry you can't read a thread, I was not talking to you. Who's this DB6 that you keep referring to? You had an account with databasix, an entire different company. Do you deposit your money in Bank One and go to Bank of America to get it out of your account? Not too smart, are you? You are such a chicken that you would put me in your kill file, I have no doubt about it. Just remember that you are the one that started all of this crap on Usenet, not me. LP |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Looks like Maxipad is back. Welcome back Maxipad. Better watch out, you'll get booted off, but still be able to post. I heard that moon is made out of green cheese. Hi there, Jon-boy. I see you've learned nothing in my absence, ie--still top posting, name calling, being a jerk. Max |
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