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[email protected] November 4th 05 01:36 AM

Tiller Lock
 
I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht. Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?


Scotty November 4th 05 01:56 AM

Tiller Lock
 
What size boat?


wrote in message
oups.com...
I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht.

Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?




Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 02:32 AM

Tiller Lock
 

wrote in message

I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht. Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?


Duh!... YEAH!! Look here now... is it common for you to approach the Cabal
of Nautical Knowledge..... the Illuminate of Polars..... the assorted
Ayatollahs of Sail Controlas..... with such paltry details????

Tiller Locks depend on location. ....stern hung?... tiller on the rudder
stock thru the cockpit sole?....

If you have a fin keeler.... well you have a finicky boat that requires
constant attention. I Pity You!

Then again I have a Full Keeler with Cut-Away Forefoot that really is the
best of both worlds.. Tracks like a train downwind without any tension on
the rudder.

I have a stern hung rudder and tiller that stays clear of the cockpit. I use
a tiller clutch and two adjustable bungee cords on blocks. Tension is
adjustable to each side. But seriously... the only use they see is when I'm
at a mooring and want to secure the rudder.... or when I'm going below for a
crap while single-handing.

Maybe you should look into either an Autohelm or a Boat Bitch to man that
tiller when you are otherwise occupied!

CM




Bart Senior November 4th 05 03:19 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Why don't you tie a piece of line across the
boat and slip a clove hitch on the tiller.

wrote
I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht. Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?




[email protected] November 4th 05 04:17 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel.


[email protected] November 4th 05 04:20 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel. The tiller is clear of the deck. My Boat Bitch is
blonde and can't use a tiller (Can you believe it).

Whats a tiller clutch?


[email protected] November 4th 05 04:24 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Bart
Thats what I do now but wanted something adjustable.

Why do things the easy way when there's always a hard way.

My boat is a 53 year old carvel sail boat made from a local timber
called Jarrah.

Beautifull boat and I have had her for 7 years.


Jonathan Ganz November 4th 05 04:56 AM

Tiller Lock
 
In article .com,
wrote:
I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht. Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?


Like the Tiller Tender? I'm sure you'll find it with a google search.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 06:25 AM

Tiller Lock
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 02:32:19 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
scribbled thusly:

If you have a fin keeler.... well you have a finicky boat that requires
constant attention. I Pity You!


Then you obviously don't sail one.....or balance it like a full
keeler.


Yeah we know... you like the fin keelers so much you bought a boat made with
two fin keel hulls. :-)

CM



Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 06:28 AM

Tiller Lock
 
EXCELLENT!!!!

A Real Vessel!!!

West Marine has a Tiller Clutch.

Adjustable Shock cords with small blocks to the tiller.

Use Jam or Clam cleats.....

Is your vessel a double ender like mine?

CM

wrote in message
ups.com...
Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel.




Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 06:33 AM

Tiller Lock
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel. The tiller is clear of the deck. My Boat Bitch is
blonde and can't use a tiller (Can you believe it).



Yeah... I can believe it.... best to leave'em at what their best at...
Galley and Berth duties.!!! :-)

Whats a tiller clutch?


It's a small rig with an adjustable clutch... which is just a sheave that
has the turning tension adjusted by a turn screw knob. you can lock them
down or just use it to stiffen the tiller. I believe the brand name is
"Tiller Tamer"

CM



Bart Senior November 4th 05 07:21 AM

Tiller Lock
 
For God's Sake Man! Cut that thing off and glass
in a spade rudder!

[BTW How was my CM imitation?]

Despite the theatrics, seriously, I think it would be a good
idea to get rid of that rudder.

wrote

Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel.




Bart Senior November 4th 05 07:25 AM

Tiller Lock
 
I bought two Tiller Tamers a few years ago, remembering
one of my skippers had one and liked it. I found it was a
PITA and after I broke the first one, I left the spare--intended
for another boat in the bag.

I don't like them. The plastic is cheap. If you take a
chip out of one side, which is easy to do, then the line
gets fouled up, and before you know it the whole thing
is junk.

A cleat on either side of the tiller and a piece of shock
cord or light line is all you need.

One thing I've seen that works well are a pair of blocks
and some line lead to the companionway and cleated off
there with cam cleats. Easy and fast to adjust and a
sort of remote steering.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote

wrote


Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel. The tiller is clear of the deck. My Boat Bitch is
blonde and can't use a tiller (Can you believe it).



Yeah... I can believe it.... best to leave'em at what their best at...
Galley and Berth duties.!!! :-)

Whats a tiller clutch?


It's a small rig with an adjustable clutch... which is just a sheave that
has the turning tension adjusted by a turn screw knob. you can lock them
down or just use it to stiffen the tiller. I believe the brand name is
"Tiller Tamer"

CM




Bart Senior November 4th 05 07:30 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Pictures please Errol! Tell us about the boat and how it
handles. It is a sloop rig? I bet it fore-reaches like hell
when you try to heave-to.

wrote
Bart
Thats what I do now but wanted something adjustable.

Why do things the easy way when there's always a hard way.

My boat is a 53 year old carvel sail boat made from a local timber
called Jarrah.

Beautifull boat and I have had her for 7 years.




Bart Senior November 4th 05 07:34 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Have mercy on poor Errol You'll have him sailing
backwards like you do in Overproof! Well, even
that would be ok if you did it on purpose...

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
EXCELLENT!!!!

A Real Vessel!!!

West Marine has a Tiller Clutch.

Adjustable Shock cords with small blocks to the tiller.

Use Jam or Clam cleats.....

Is your vessel a double ender like mine?

CM

wrote


Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel.




[email protected] November 4th 05 07:49 AM

Tiller Lock
 
No its a traditional sloping square transom.


[email protected] November 4th 05 08:45 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Is West Marine in Australia? I looked for it but cant find it listed.


croberts November 4th 05 08:55 AM

Tiller Lock
 
you should not have replied to the rude arsehole (Maroon). the American news
sites are full of smartarse wannabe answers that do not need fostering here.
wrote in message
oups.com...
I would like to make an adjustable tiller lock for my yacht. Does
anyone have plans/ideas etc?




Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 02:13 PM

Tiller Lock
 

OzOne wrote in message

Well yeah, I can afford them :-)


So... are you comparing a cat to a double holer?

But yes, I do like fin keelers, do you know you can turn one around in
just over it's own length....nimble is the word.



Nimble - an Australian term for a vessel that sails on it's ear at over 10
kts of wind. :-)

CM



Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 03:27 PM

Tiller Lock
 

OzOne wrote in message

Yep especially as most crab crushers don't have the grunt to push up a
sea, get deiven backward and snap off that transom hung flappy thing.


You just never mind there you fragile fin keeled floozies..... my vessel
has way more punch than your puny, girly, fin keelers.

The planet was explored with full keelers!
Pirates sailed full keelers!
Fishermen used Full Keelers!

Only you panty waisted dock side Divas needed a boat specifically designed
to never leave the harbour.!!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 03:54 PM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 

"croberts" wrote in message
...
you should not have replied to the rude arsehole (Maroon). the American
news
sites are full of smartarse wannabe answers that do not need fostering
here.


Oh My... is this a sample of the Australian Sailing mentality.... stuck up,
tight assed and totally bereft of humour? By the way you kangaroo jockey...
I'm CANADIAN! .....EH!
Heh Auusie Boy.... nice Suck Up to the US on the Iraqi Invasion.... you guys
folded faster than Superman on Laundry day .. while we Canadians told them
were to get off... ! You Spineless Pussies!!!

Have you boys learned to dance to Yankee Doodle Dandy yet!??
Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!!

Try chillin' a bit....

CM

Notice the hook up and how easy I set the drag on this one??



Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 04:08 PM

Tiller Lock
 
No..... it isn't but I'm certain you must have a store like it. I got mine
from the local chandlery here in Canada.... but to tell the truth... I agree
with Bart on the Tiller Tamer..... use adjustable shock cords and cam
cleats. I've replaced mine 3 times due to the breakage he mentioned.

CM

wrote in message
oups.com...
Is West Marine in Australia? I looked for it but cant find it listed.




Bart Senior November 4th 05 04:44 PM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 
CM is really French, but even the French disowned him.
That puts him lower than white whale **** on the bottom
of the ocean under a spring tide. grin

"Capt.Mooron" wrote

"croberts" wrote


you should not have replied to the rude arsehole (Maroon). the American
news


Oh My... is this a sample of the Australian Sailing mentality.... stuck

up,
tight assed and totally bereft of humour? By the way you kangaroo

jockey...
I'm CANADIAN! .....EH!
CM




Bart Senior November 4th 05 04:46 PM

Tiller Lock
 
It is a shame. Good idea, crap materials. Also I found
it very slow to free when I needed the tiller free. That
could be dangerous.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
No..... it isn't but I'm certain you must have a store like it. I got

mine
from the local chandlery here in Canada.... but to tell the truth... I

agree
with Bart on the Tiller Tamer..... use adjustable shock cords and cam
cleats. I've replaced mine 3 times due to the breakage he mentioned.

CM




Scotty November 4th 05 05:02 PM

Tiller Lock
 
get an Autopilot and be done with it.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Joe November 4th 05 05:16 PM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 
Not only is he french, he looks like he's of Arab desent.

Joe


Scotty November 4th 05 05:34 PM

Tiller Lock
 
When I had a tiller pilot, sometimes I'd turn it off, to save the
battery, but still use it to hold the tiller to a set position.
Basically you had a hole in the tiller that a pin dropped into,
was very quick to pull out. I suppose you could make something
similar using an adjustable telescoping pole.

SBV



"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
It is a shame. Good idea, crap materials. Also I found
it very slow to free when I needed the tiller free. That
could be dangerous.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
No..... it isn't but I'm certain you must have a store like

it. I got
mine
from the local chandlery here in Canada.... but to tell the

truth... I
agree
with Bart on the Tiller Tamer..... use adjustable shock

cords and cam
cleats. I've replaced mine 3 times due to the breakage he

mentioned.

CM






Capt.Mooron November 4th 05 07:06 PM

Tiller Lock
 
Yeah Scotty.... but the basic idea of the tiller tamer is a good one. It
needs to be re-engineered and made out of stainless steel with a quick
release lever as well as a more functional clutch assembly. I might try to
build one this winter in my machine shop. I have the tools and raw metal
stockpiled. Turn some pieces on the metal lathe.... etc.

CM

"Scotty" wrote in message
When I had a tiller pilot, sometimes I'd turn it off, to save the
battery, but still use it to hold the tiller to a set position.
Basically you had a hole in the tiller that a pin dropped into,
was very quick to pull out. I suppose you could make something
similar using an adjustable telescoping pole.

SBV



"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
It is a shame. Good idea, crap materials. Also I found
it very slow to free when I needed the tiller free. That
could be dangerous.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
No..... it isn't but I'm certain you must have a store like

it. I got
mine
from the local chandlery here in Canada.... but to tell the

truth... I
agree
with Bart on the Tiller Tamer..... use adjustable shock

cords and cam
cleats. I've replaced mine 3 times due to the breakage he

mentioned.

CM








Seahag November 4th 05 08:48 PM

Tiller Lock
 

"Scotty" wrote:
When I had a tiller pilot, sometimes I'd turn it off, to
save the
battery, but still use it to hold the tiller to a set
position.
Basically you had a hole in the tiller that a pin dropped
into,
was very quick to pull out. I suppose you could make
something
similar using an adjustable telescoping pole.


I saw a cool deal on an old wooden boat one time...There was
a bronze plate on the deck under the tiller, maybe a foot
long, with 'teeth' sticking up. Then there was a small
bronze flange on the tiller that would slot into any of the
notches.

Seahag



Scotty November 4th 05 09:02 PM

Tiller Lock
 

"Seahag" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" wrote:
When I had a tiller pilot, sometimes I'd turn it off, to
save the
battery, but still use it to hold the tiller to a set
position.
Basically you had a hole in the tiller that a pin dropped
into,
was very quick to pull out. I suppose you could make
something
similar using an adjustable telescoping pole.


I saw a cool deal on an old wooden boat one time...There was
a bronze plate on the deck under the tiller, maybe a foot
long, with 'teeth' sticking up. Then there was a small
bronze flange on the tiller that would slot into any of the
notches.


Yeah, I think you told me about that. On the Mac, I used to put a
boat cushion on top of the lazerrette and under the tiller,
weight down the tiller with a small bucket of water. Worked real
well.

Scotty




Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 12:28 AM

Tiller Lock
 

OzOne wrote in message

That would be Bubbles.
My boats have always been designed and built for extremely fast
passage making wheras your is designed and built to get there...one
day.


Far as I remember Ozzy... my boat has always arrived with the engine and
drive train in working condition.

Maybe if you quit running your engine in large seas to keep up speed.....
Hahahahahahahhahahaaa!!!

CM



Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 12:32 AM

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Heh Ozone.... is that fuk-wad from "aus.sailing.... complaining about my
post, representative of the sanctimonious, dour, demeanour of most Aussie
Club Sailors??

I bet he's a Fin Keel Dandy.

CM


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:27:38 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

Yep especially as most crab crushers don't have the grunt to push up a
sea, get deiven backward and snap off that transom hung flappy thing.


You just never mind there you fragile fin keeled floozies..... my vessel
has way more punch than your puny, girly, fin keelers.


Yep, tonnes of punch....it needs it.

The planet was explored with full keelers!
Pirates sailed full keelers!
Fishermen used Full Keelers!


I like your use of past tense!

Only you panty waisted dock side Divas needed a boat specifically designed
to never leave the harbour.!!

CM

That would be Bubbles.
My boats have always been designed and built for extremely fast
passage making wheras your is designed and built to get there...one
day.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




[email protected] November 5th 05 03:27 AM

Tiller Lock
 
CM

Do you have any plans? Can you send me a drawing as I might have a go
at building one myself. I have just about every type of woodworking
machine there is but not a lot in the way of metal working equipment.

Errol


Brash November 5th 05 04:46 AM

Tiller Lock
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
Its a 32' full keeler. It has a transom hung rudder that is the full
depth of the keel. The tiller is clear of the deck. My Boat Bitch is
blonde and can't use a tiller (Can you believe it).


Mine was brunette and not much use either. She had trouble with "left" and
"right" driving a car, let alone "port" and "starboard" with a tiller.


--
"It's ballistics, not rocket-science."

Me.


Whats a tiller clutch?




croberts November 5th 05 06:12 AM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 
Yep he is a dead set ****** that has been busy destroying other sailing
sites to the stage where everybody just blocks him. I certainly have as of
now.
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Not only is he french, he looks like he's of Arab desent.

Joe




Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 07:30 AM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 
Woooooooo....... Hated Globally?? Gotta Luv Dat!
I feel a certain kindred spirit with Bush! :-)

CM

"croberts" wrote in message
...
Yep he is a dead set ****** that has been busy destroying other sailing
sites to the stage where everybody just blocks him. I certainly have as of
now.
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Not only is he french, he looks like he's of Arab desent.

Joe






Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 07:38 AM

Tiller Lock
 
Yeah... I can draw up a sketch but try this site first.

http://tinylink.com/?GklVdZfwi4

http://tinylink.com/?09iuYtsNBP


or if you are into jury rigging....
http://tinylink.com/?27CWOuq8de

Let me know if this is of any help.

CM


wrote in message
oups.com...
CM

Do you have any plans? Can you send me a drawing as I might have a go
at building one myself. I have just about every type of woodworking
machine there is but not a lot in the way of metal working equipment.

Errol




Plod November 5th 05 01:19 PM

Tiller Lock
 
Thanks for that. I'll have a play around and see what I can come up
with.


Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 03:58 PM

Tiller Lock - I got a live one here! :-)
 

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 07:30:20 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
scribbled thusly:

Woooooooo....... Hated Globally?? Gotta Luv Dat!
I feel a certain kindred spirit with Bush! :-)

CM


But Bush knows who his daddy is


Knowing "who" your Daddy is ... isn't anywhere as important as having a
Dad... now is it?

My Dad sometimes doesn't remember who I am.... I'm just glad I have the
opportunity to remind him.

CM



Capt.Mooron November 5th 05 04:01 PM

Tiller Lock
 
No Problem Buddy.... under the gruff exterior of this group lies a waste
land of nautical knowledge ... all well discussed and reviewed. :-)

CM

"Plod" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks for that. I'll have a play around and see what I can come up
with.





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