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Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 11:00 AM

A Ship of Fools
 
It's so much fun to see you folks **** and moan, sputter and spit in
total frustration. Scotty is mad because he's trapped in floating junk.
Loco looks at his boat and now will always be reminded that I own
better. Who can guess what poor Doug thinks when he looks at his
TRAWLER?!
But the true beauty of this little group is in your feverish attempts
to tear at me, it's inevitable that you fall on your faces. Witness the
latest:

Jeff wrote: "I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8
knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Can you imagine if I posted such a thing? Of course you're all to
cowardly to take Jeff to task after he says such a thing. Even Neal
will let such a thing slide because it seems that even together you're
no match for me...here or in "real life."
And so you might question the validity of my claimed victories. Each is
well founded in exposing you all as the frauds you are. While we all
sail within the given limits of our realities, most of you act as
though Slocum himself might learn from you. The truth is that NONE of
you know boats or sailing better than me and I've only been doing it
locally for 11 years. You should be ashamed of yourselves and the boats
you barely use.

Again, Jeff wrote..."I confess I never accurately measured our
performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Would anyone EVER take Jeff seriously again? Sure, if it meant shooting
a barb at me! In the end you really know nothing about me. I've given
you nothing. But I've drawn you out and one by one exposed who you
really a

Doug: A powerboater
Scotty: Frustrated and angry that his hard work produced so
little...Willy Lohman indeed.
Loco: Perhaps more cheap and unimaginative that he is without means.
Jeff: Weighed down by his family, powering his cat 30% of the time or
more.
John: A Catalina 28, John? I can't even begin to address this here.

And there are more of you, mostly all frauds, fakes and wannabes.
Anyone who truly loves sailing is an affront to you as it confirms that
the soul of sailing has died within you long ago.

We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.

Capt. Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5...The Better Boat
City Island, NY


Scotty November 2nd 05 11:29 AM

Bull Ship of a Fool
 
"Swab Rob" wrote ...


Can you imagine if I posted such a thing? Of course you're all

to
cowardly to take Jeff to task after he says such a thing.



Not cowardice. It's because , unlike you, Jeff is a fellow
sailor, whom we like.





Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415
Ph.# 718-757-7114



Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 11:35 AM

Bull Ship of a Fool
 
Scotty wrote...

Not cowardice. It's because , unlike you, Jeff admits to using his
engines when he's making less than 5 knots.


I wish Jeff had been joking, Scotty. And I'm glad you like him...says a
lot about what you think sailing is.


Robert B
35s5...a better boat
NY


Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 02:16 PM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.


Did you also learn to live the the stench of the floating fecal matter that
is floating past you?


Capt. Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5...The Better Boat
City Island, NY




Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 02:26 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.



Did you also learn to live the the stench of the floating fecal matter
that
is floating past you?


Now, Bob. Even you must admit that I drag Loco, Scotty, Doug, Joe, Jeff
and most of the others like dumb bait fish!

RB
35s5...a better boat


Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 03:34 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
No question about it, when it comes to trolling you are one of the greatest.
Even I stand in awe of your abilities. Your understanding of human foibles
combined with your self discipline is legendary and makes for truly
masterful trolling. The funniest of your most recent trolls is admitting
that you will use it for daysailing, short trips, as a focal point for
family fun and they still come at you! Face it Bob, you do have a nice boat,
a beautiful wife and a lifestyle that most will envy. But you deserve it,
you worked for it! Your trolling abilities are certainly within an order of
magnitude of those of the Great Capt Neal during the Golden Era.

Amen!



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.



Did you also learn to live the the stench of the floating fecal matter
that
is floating past you?


Now, Bob. Even you must admit that I drag Loco, Scotty, Doug, Joe, Jeff
and most of the others like dumb bait fish!

RB
35s5...a better boat




Jeff November 2nd 05 04:43 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Poor, desperate Booby. He spent $70,000 bucks on a "racer/cruiser"
but he actually does neither! He wants everyone to be envious, but
all he really gets is our pity!

Sorry Bob, you have a nice club racer. If you actually raced it, I'd
be happy for you. But you picked this boat because you wanted a
private cabin, but all you got was a crawl space with no ventilation.

You poke fun at me because I don't hesitate to power when traveling,
but the only advantage you seem to have over me a an air conditioner
that you can only use at the dock. Get a clue booby: a bendy makes a
terrible houseboat!


Capt. Rob wrote:
It's so much fun to see you folks **** and moan, sputter and spit in
total frustration. Scotty is mad because he's trapped in floating junk.
Loco looks at his boat and now will always be reminded that I own
better. Who can guess what poor Doug thinks when he looks at his
TRAWLER?!
But the true beauty of this little group is in your feverish attempts
to tear at me, it's inevitable that you fall on your faces. Witness the
latest:

Jeff wrote: "I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8
knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Can you imagine if I posted such a thing? Of course you're all to
cowardly to take Jeff to task after he says such a thing. Even Neal
will let such a thing slide because it seems that even together you're
no match for me...here or in "real life."
And so you might question the validity of my claimed victories. Each is
well founded in exposing you all as the frauds you are. While we all
sail within the given limits of our realities, most of you act as
though Slocum himself might learn from you. The truth is that NONE of
you know boats or sailing better than me and I've only been doing it
locally for 11 years. You should be ashamed of yourselves and the boats
you barely use.

Again, Jeff wrote..."I confess I never accurately measured our
performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Would anyone EVER take Jeff seriously again? Sure, if it meant shooting
a barb at me! In the end you really know nothing about me. I've given
you nothing. But I've drawn you out and one by one exposed who you
really a

Doug: A powerboater
Scotty: Frustrated and angry that his hard work produced so
little...Willy Lohman indeed.
Loco: Perhaps more cheap and unimaginative that he is without means.
Jeff: Weighed down by his family, powering his cat 30% of the time or
more.
John: A Catalina 28, John? I can't even begin to address this here.

And there are more of you, mostly all frauds, fakes and wannabes.
Anyone who truly loves sailing is an affront to you as it confirms that
the soul of sailing has died within you long ago.

We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.

Capt. Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5...The Better Boat
City Island, NY


Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 04:53 PM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Poor, desperate Booby. He spent $70,000 bucks on a "racer/cruiser"
but he actually does neither! He wants everyone to be envious, but
all he really gets is our pity!


Bwaahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry Bob, you have a nice club racer. If you actually raced it, I'd
be happy for you. But you picked this boat because you wanted a
private cabin, but all you got was a crawl space with no ventilation.


This is getting really good!!!! Why have ventilation when all you can smell
is raw sewage?



You poke fun at me because I don't hesitate to power when traveling,
but the only advantage you seem to have over me a an air conditioner
that you can only use at the dock. Get a clue booby: a bendy makes a
terrible houseboat!

Is the corollary that Boobsie makes a poor sailor?

Bwaaahaaahaahaahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Amen!

No lava for you Jeff!



Capt. Rob wrote:
It's so much fun to see you folks **** and moan, sputter and spit in
total frustration. Scotty is mad because he's trapped in floating junk.
Loco looks at his boat and now will always be reminded that I own
better. Who can guess what poor Doug thinks when he looks at his
TRAWLER?!
But the true beauty of this little group is in your feverish attempts
to tear at me, it's inevitable that you fall on your faces. Witness the
latest:

Jeff wrote: "I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8
knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Can you imagine if I posted such a thing? Of course you're all to
cowardly to take Jeff to task after he says such a thing. Even Neal
will let such a thing slide because it seems that even together you're
no match for me...here or in "real life."
And so you might question the validity of my claimed victories. Each is
well founded in exposing you all as the frauds you are. While we all
sail within the given limits of our realities, most of you act as
though Slocum himself might learn from you. The truth is that NONE of
you know boats or sailing better than me and I've only been doing it
locally for 11 years. You should be ashamed of yourselves and the boats
you barely use.

Again, Jeff wrote..."I confess I never accurately measured our
performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine. "

Would anyone EVER take Jeff seriously again? Sure, if it meant shooting
a barb at me! In the end you really know nothing about me. I've given
you nothing. But I've drawn you out and one by one exposed who you
really a

Doug: A powerboater
Scotty: Frustrated and angry that his hard work produced so
little...Willy Lohman indeed.
Loco: Perhaps more cheap and unimaginative that he is without means.
Jeff: Weighed down by his family, powering his cat 30% of the time or
more.
John: A Catalina 28, John? I can't even begin to address this here.

And there are more of you, mostly all frauds, fakes and wannabes.
Anyone who truly loves sailing is an affront to you as it confirms that
the soul of sailing has died within you long ago.

We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.

Capt. Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5...The Better Boat
City Island, NY




Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 05:06 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Sorry Bob, you have a nice club racer.


We plan to race her! Thanks for the compliment!

You heard him, Folks!


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 05:11 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
but the only advantage you seem to have over me a an air conditioner
that you can only use at the dock.

Our boat handles better than your boat. It's more fun to sail. It cost
a LOT less than 70K and we bought it outright. It's gone up in value
for the last 4 years as well. It's fun to daysail, even for a short
sail. It doesn't need to be stripped down or sailed hard to be fun.
That's not only an advantage over your boat, it's the whole reason
we're out there.

Sorry, Jeff. You're a powerboater.

RB
35s5---a better boat by far


Martin Baxter November 2nd 05 05:17 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Bob Crantz wrote:


Is the corollary that Boobsie makes a poor sailor?



Oh come on now! Bob is no sailor, he is what he does best, a used boat
salesman! Let's face it, he's on a par with the lowest form of life in
the universe, a used car salesman. Behaves exactly the same, the car
guy may drive a Rolls, but he will never have class; Bob may someday own
a Swan, but will never be a sailor. Bob is the Rodney Dangerfield of
ASA, he can't get no respect!


Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Cheers
Martin

rgnmstr November 2nd 05 05:22 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
We plan to race her!

LOL ..................... I love a good joke at lunch.


rgnmstr November 2nd 05 05:23 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
It's gone up in value for the last 4 years as well.

Yea that happens with French boats.


Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 05:37 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Bob is the Rodney Dangerfield of
ASA, he can't get no respect!


Bwahahahahaha! Right on!


RB
35s5...the better boat
NY


Jeff November 2nd 05 05:43 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
....
That's not only an advantage over your boat, it's the whole reason
we're out there.


You say that as though its actually out of sight of your slip.

Sorry Bob, you're a landlubber.


Sorry, Jeff. You're a powerboater.


jlrogers November 2nd 05 06:13 PM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
Your trolling abilities are certainly within an order of
magnitude of those of the Great Capt Neal during the Golden Era.

Amen!


He "is" a master at eliciting comment. Now why do you think that is?
Analysis, please.



Jeff November 2nd 05 07:28 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
The problem is you only see one aspect of sailing and judge everybody
and every boat according to that. But boating has many dimensions and
enjoyment comes in many ways.

Your chosen boat boat may be fun to sail for a few hours, and if
that's all you plan to do with it, it had better be a *lot* of fun.
Frankly, if I want to daysail, I can take out one of my dinghies. Or
I can go to one of the clubs where I'm a member. I love to sail 505's
and Solings, I'm just too busy cruising to do it often.

Sorry Bob, I sailed for many years on small boats in sheltered waters.
I've even got some silver from my racing days. I also spent years
instructing in dinghies, and running collegiate regattas. I have
nothing against daysailing and still do it whenever I can.

And for a while a long cruise usually meant 20 miles up the coast for
a weekend. But then I got bit by the cruising bug. There's nothing
like packing up for a few weeks and deciding when you leave the harbor
whether to head North or South. Or having to analyze the weather each
day to pick an anchorage. Or visiting some small island that only a
handful of people will ever get to. If it means I don't have the same
"feel" at the helm as a racing boat, no biggie. If my boat doesn't
heel like a monohull, that's an advantage. I can be 50 miles from the
nearest town and still take a hot shower. My queen size bunk has two
large hatches above, so A/C is never needed. And I have another like
it for guests. I carry enough food for a month, and enough tools and
spares to handle whatever comes. I even have a spare engine!

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point, or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred other
places we've been to.

Sorry Bob, you're a landlubber.

Capt. Rob wrote:
but the only advantage you seem to have over me a an air conditioner
that you can only use at the dock.

Our boat handles better than your boat. It's more fun to sail. It cost
a LOT less than 70K and we bought it outright. It's gone up in value
for the last 4 years as well. It's fun to daysail, even for a short
sail. It doesn't need to be stripped down or sailed hard to be fun.
That's not only an advantage over your boat, it's the whole reason
we're out there.

Sorry, Jeff. You're a powerboater.

RB
35s5---a better boat by far


rgnmstr November 2nd 05 07:32 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Gotta love those cats. Remind the Boob of how much deck space you have.


Jeff November 2nd 05 08:43 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
rgnmstr wrote:
Gotta love those cats. Remind the Boob of how much deck space you have.

What use would all that space be for boobie? Sunning after swimming
back from the beach? Doubtful.

It certainly comes in handy when anchoring or setting the chute. But
the real nice thing is that the dog understood immediately that the
mesh tramp was the perfect doggie head. Its a good thing we have a
washdown hose!

John Cairns November 2nd 05 08:44 PM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
John: A Catalina 28, John? I can't even begin to address this here.
We love sailing. And our engines stay off, even when our speed drops to
1 knot. Learn to live with that.

Capt. Robert B
Beneteau First 35s5...The Better Boat
City Island, NY


I own a boat that I can actually sail myself. I am happy with the choice I
made. I enjoy looking at boats, but I've never seriously considered going to
a larger boat, and I'm very familiar with the "two-foot-itis" syndrome, you
seem to be a poster boy for this malady. As far a keeping the engines off,
all this really means is that you've never done any cruising, sad
considering the fact that you live in an area that's a good starting point
for extended cruising. We're very happy that you're pleased with "your" new
boat, but the way you go on about it, we're wondering who you're really
trying to convince.

John Cairns



Martin Baxter November 2nd 05 08:56 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Jeff wrote:

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point, or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred other
places we've been to.



We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ, scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet of water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him. I envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance of the
jerks!

Cheers
Martin

Bob Crantz November 2nd 05 09:04 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Think of this:

Watch a group of people when someone openly farts in the group. You'll see
the majority of people sniffing to smell the fart. Once whiffed, they
express outrage. Now, have you ever smelled a fart that had a pleasant odor?
Then why the sniffing?

Robbie comes here to fart. He does a great job!

Amen!

"jlrogers" wrote in message
...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
Your trolling abilities are certainly within an order of
magnitude of those of the Great Capt Neal during the Golden Era.

Amen!


He "is" a master at eliciting comment. Now why do you think that is?
Analysis, please.





Thom Stewart November 2nd 05 09:04 PM

Bull Ship of a Fool
 
Scotty,

The difference between Nutsy & Jeff is, a lie & truth. A recognized fact
of long standing. Goes back to the shackles on the Mooring cleats

Ole Thom
P/S the group is hurting with the Meows and Nutsy both but it is
recovering. You deserve a big part of the credit. Thanks!





Jonathan Ganz November 2nd 05 09:13 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
Jeff wrote:

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point, or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred other
places we've been to.



We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ, scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet of water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him. I envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance of the
jerks!

Cheers
Martin


When we had the Belize 43, we gently beached it with a kedge a couple
of times. That sure made getting to the island(s) easy.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Jeff November 2nd 05 09:49 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Jeff wrote:
I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point, or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred other
places we've been to.



We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ, scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet of water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him. I envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance of the
jerks!


My favorite is one:
http://www.sv-loki.com/Along_the_Way/Hadley.jpg
A NY Yacht Club cruise and a race ending at Wood's Hole meant that
several hundred boats decided to stay at Hadley's, where normally a
dozen or so might stay. We snuck up this little cove and double
anchored in about 4-5 feet. Every 10 minutes a boat would head our
way and then realize it wasn't going to work. The boat on the right
foreground about as close in as a keel boat could get.

One time we anchored in Newfound Harbor (near Key West) and I hopped
overboard to clear out a clogged seacock. I had flippers on, and the
keel came down on a flipper and held it on the bottom a while. I
guess we cut it a bit too close that time.

Jonathan Ganz November 2nd 05 10:08 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
In article , Jeff wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
My favorite is one:
http://www.sv-loki.com/Along_the_Way/Hadley.jpg
A NY Yacht Club cruise and a race ending at Wood's Hole meant that
several hundred boats decided to stay at Hadley's, where normally a
dozen or so might stay. We snuck up this little cove and double
anchored in about 4-5 feet. Every 10 minutes a boat would head our
way and then realize it wasn't going to work. The boat on the right
foreground about as close in as a keel boat could get.

One time we anchored in Newfound Harbor (near Key West) and I hopped
overboard to clear out a clogged seacock. I had flippers on, and the
keel came down on a flipper and held it on the bottom a while. I
guess we cut it a bit too close that time.


Pretty crowded! When I was in Belize, I regularly checked the depth by
seeing if I could actually get a flipper underneath the keel.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



jlrogers November 2nd 05 11:12 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Excellent! You have a fine analytical mind and a gift for analogy.


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
Think of this:

Watch a group of people when someone openly farts in the group. You'll see
the majority of people sniffing to smell the fart. Once whiffed, they
express outrage. Now, have you ever smelled a fart that had a pleasant
odor?
Then why the sniffing?

Robbie comes here to fart. He does a great job!

Amen!

"jlrogers" wrote in message
...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
k.net...
Your trolling abilities are certainly within an order of
magnitude of those of the Great Capt Neal during the Golden Era.

Amen!


He "is" a master at eliciting comment. Now why do you think that is?
Analysis, please.







Scotty November 3rd 05 12:48 AM

A Ship of Fools
 
Today in Manhattan, while I was eating lunch on W57th St., I
noticed several busses go by with the same message on the side,
it read,
''Hey New Yorkers, Do your part to help clean up the LIS, Always
FLUSH TWICE''


--
Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415
Ph.# 718-757-7114

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...

"
Did you also learn to live the the stench of the floating fecal

matter that
is floating past you?


Capt. Robert B
Boatless
City Island, NY






Scotty November 3rd 05 12:54 AM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be

able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point,

or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator

River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred

other
places we've been to.



We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ,

scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet of

water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him. I

envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance of

the
jerks!



I can anchor in 4' of water.

Cheers
Scotty



Scotty November 3rd 05 12:57 AM

A Ship of Fools
 
Amen, Jeff!


"Jeff" wrote in message
...
The problem is you only see one aspect of sailing and judge

everybody
and every boat according to that. But boating has many

dimensions and
enjoyment comes in many ways.

Your chosen boat boat may be fun to sail for a few hours, and

if
that's all you plan to do with it, it had better be a *lot* of

fun.
Frankly, if I want to daysail, I can take out one of my

dinghies. Or
I can go to one of the clubs where I'm a member. I love to

sail 505's
and Solings, I'm just too busy cruising to do it often.

Sorry Bob, I sailed for many years on small boats in sheltered

waters.
I've even got some silver from my racing days. I also spent

years
instructing in dinghies, and running collegiate regattas. I

have
nothing against daysailing and still do it whenever I can.

And for a while a long cruise usually meant 20 miles up the

coast for
a weekend. But then I got bit by the cruising bug. There's

nothing
like packing up for a few weeks and deciding when you leave the

harbor
whether to head North or South. Or having to analyze the

weather each
day to pick an anchorage. Or visiting some small island that

only a
handful of people will ever get to. If it means I don't have

the same
"feel" at the helm as a racing boat, no biggie. If my boat

doesn't
heel like a monohull, that's an advantage. I can be 50 miles

from the
nearest town and still take a hot shower. My queen size bunk

has two
large hatches above, so A/C is never needed. And I have

another like
it for guests. I carry enough food for a month, and enough

tools and
spares to handle whatever comes. I even have a spare engine!

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be able

to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point, or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator River,

or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred

other
places we've been to.

Sorry Bob, you're a landlubber.

Capt. Rob wrote:
but the only advantage you seem to have over me a an air

conditioner
that you can only use at the dock.

Our boat handles better than your boat. It's more fun to

sail. It cost
a LOT less than 70K and we bought it outright. It's gone up

in value
for the last 4 years as well. It's fun to daysail, even for a

short
sail. It doesn't need to be stripped down or sailed hard to

be fun.
That's not only an advantage over your boat, it's the whole

reason
we're out there.

Sorry, Jeff. You're a powerboater.

RB
35s5---a better boat by far




Scotty November 3rd 05 12:59 AM

A Ship of Fools
 

"John Cairns" wrote

I own a boat that I can actually sail myself. I am happy with

the choice I
made. I enjoy looking at boats, but I've never seriously

considered going to
a larger boat, and I'm very familiar with the "two-foot-itis"

syndrome, you
seem to be a poster boy for this malady. As far a keeping the

engines off,
all this really means is that you've never done any cruising,

sad
considering the fact that you live in an area that's a good

starting point
for extended cruising. We're very happy that you're pleased

with "your" new
boat, but the way you go on about it, we're wondering who

you're really
trying to convince.


For some strange reason he appears to be trying to convince Loco.
What's up with that?

Scotty




John Cairns November 3rd 05 01:00 AM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be

able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long Point,

or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator

River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several hundred

other
places we've been to.



We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ,

scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet of

water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him. I

envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance of

the
jerks!



I can anchor in 4' of water.

Cheers
Scotty


Huh. I can anchor in 3' 8", with several inches of clearance, so there.

John Cairns



John Cairns November 3rd 05 01:05 AM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote

I own a boat that I can actually sail myself. I am happy with

the choice I
made. I enjoy looking at boats, but I've never seriously

considered going to
a larger boat, and I'm very familiar with the "two-foot-itis"

syndrome, you
seem to be a poster boy for this malady. As far a keeping the

engines off,
all this really means is that you've never done any cruising,

sad
considering the fact that you live in an area that's a good

starting point
for extended cruising. We're very happy that you're pleased

with "your" new
boat, but the way you go on about it, we're wondering who

you're really
trying to convince.


For some strange reason he appears to be trying to convince Loco.
What's up with that?

Scotty


Mebbe he views Loco as a "father figure". Unresolved "issues" from
childhood, improper toilet training and the like.

John Cairns



DSK November 3rd 05 01:12 AM

A Ship of Fools
 
I can anchor in 4' of water.



John Cairns wrote:
Huh. I can anchor in 3' 8", with several inches of clearance, so there.


Well, I can anchor in less than that... 3'4" or so, if the tanks are
less full. And if the bottom is sand or mud, I can dredge out my own
anchorage no matter how shallow it is to start with.

Our last boat could anchor on dry land.

DSK


Scotty November 3rd 05 01:42 AM

A Ship of Fools
 

"John Cairns" wrote in
message ...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Jeff wrote:

I can sail a racing boat any time I want. You'll never be

able to
wake up at Merchant's Row, or Pulpit Harbor, or Long

Point,
or
Hadley's, or the Sassafras, or the Wye, or the Alligator

River, or the
Little Snake, or Cabbage Key, or any one of several

hundred
other
places we've been to.


We get a guy in our bay a few times every summer with a PDQ,

scoots
right up to the head of the bay and anchors in about 4 feet

of
water, he
never has a problem with idiots anchoring too close to him.

I
envy both
the ability to get into water that shallow and the avoidance

of
the
jerks!



I can anchor in 4' of water.

Cheers
Scotty


Huh. I can anchor in 3' 8", with several inches of clearance,

so there.

I can sail in 3' 5'' of water. Phhtttttttttttttttttttttt :p~

Scotty



Bob Crantz November 3rd 05 02:17 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
The light at the end of their tunnel is New Jersey!

Bwaaahaahaahaahahaahahahaahahahahaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!


"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Today in Manhattan, while I was eating lunch on W57th St., I
noticed several busses go by with the same message on the side,
it read,
''Hey New Yorkers, Do your part to help clean up the LIS, Always
FLUSH TWICE''


--
Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415
Ph.# 718-757-7114

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...

"
Did you also learn to live the the stench of the floating fecal

matter that
is floating past you?


Capt. Robert B
Boatless
City Island, NY








Martin Baxter November 3rd 05 05:37 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
Scotty wrote:

jerks!


I can anchor in 4' of water.


Yeah, well so can I, if the bottom is nice soft mud. Would you want to
anchor in 4' when the waves are more than a foot?

Cheers
Martin

Scotty November 3rd 05 06:59 PM

A Ship of Fools
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:

jerks!


I can anchor in 4' of water.


Yeah, well so can I, if the bottom is nice soft mud. Would you

want to
anchor in 4' when the waves are more than a foot?



that is why I also wrote;

''I can sail in 3' 5'' of water. Phhtttttttttttttttttttttt
:p~''



Scotty, draft 3'4'' board up.



DSK November 3rd 05 07:19 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
I can anchor in 4' of water.


Martin Baxter wrote:
Yeah, well so can I, if the bottom is nice soft mud. Would you want to
anchor in 4' when the waves are more than a foot?


Why would you want to anchor any place where there are 1' waves? Are we
talking jet-ski wakes here?

DSK


Martin Baxter November 4th 05 01:42 PM

A Ship of Fools
 
DSK wrote:

I can anchor in 4' of water.


Martin Baxter wrote:
Yeah, well so can I, if the bottom is nice soft mud. Would you want to
anchor in 4' when the waves are more than a foot?


Why would you want to anchor any place where there are 1' waves? Are we
talking jet-ski wakes here?

DSK


Sometimes the wind changes direction up here! We, most unfortunately,
also get our share jet skis and motor heads; the guys I don't mind are
the bass fishermen, come blasting in at about 50 knots in a flat bottom
boat with just the prop in water, almost no wake, and once they start to
fish they are quiet, (apparently bass can hear a beer fart at 50 yards).

Cheers
martin


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