Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

Capt. Rob wrote:
Overall, it would almost keep up
with my boat, but only if they flew the chute. The light air
performance, I admit, is impressive.


And here on the LIS light air is what it's all about. We sailed the
35s5 in less than 8 knots and made better than 4. Owners of the 35s5
love the light air ability and just about all aspects of it's
performance. Your boat might hit some big numbers off the wind, but
it's still a sea-truck for old folks. Most people who actually like to
sail wouldn't think of owning one anymore than they'd own a trawler.

Most of the owners of my sisterships do extensive cruising, up and
down the East Coast, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Caribbean, South America.
I've met more than half, and don't know any that haven't done at least
one extended cruise. Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no wind.

Most people who own bendy-toys are terrified of going further from
their slip than the shore power cable will reach. They challenge
others to a race, but then claim they're "too busy" to actually travel
anywhere to race. They brag about having A/C but the boat is so
poorly ventilated that A/C is needed for survival. They claim the
head is large, but don't mention there isn't a shower.

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that! Now if you could do 6 or 7 knots in an 8 knot breeze, I'd be
impressed!








RB
35s5...a better boat than yours

And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.
When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.

RB
35s5

Capt. Rob wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!


No, you can't. And you did not consider sea state.

I confess I never accurately measured our performance in 8 knots - if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.
However, I recall a trip to Marblehead in 10 to 12 knots of wind,
where we did 5 to 6 knots, somewhat faster than I expected. What made
it memorable is that we passed a Catalina 42 to leeward - close enough
to have a conversation as we edged by.


When will make even one post without exposing how little you know?
If you knew boats, you'd know the difference between Bendy-Toys and the
First series racer/cruisers which are quite different. The Oceanus
series are much like the Catalinas and Hunters, though they're fine for
some folks. On the other hand there's a 51 at my club that was sailed
half way around the world. I guess you just don't meet the kind of
sailors I do anymore than you sail real sailboats, Jeff.
Sorry, you don't like my boat.

So, are you claiming you're the only jackass who owns a bendy-toy?

if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.


Nuff said. Jeff, you're in another world, basically a powerboating one.
I can't believe anyone would post such a thing, especially here.

RB
35s5

Yes, its a different world indeed! When your only ambition is to
daysail, you don't have to be concerned with the wind strength or your
speed. You go out for an hour, you come back for an hour. The
destination is of no importance; you can decide at the last minute
which way is most favorable. And it matters little whether you go
first to the bridge and then to the rock, or vice versa. And if you
miscalculate, it just means you start the engine a few minute early.

By your own admission, this is virtually all you ever do. Even on
your "long trips" you waited until the conditions were absolutely
perfect, and more often than not you canceled out! This forum is
filled with your promises of a major trip "real soon now," but it
never seems to happen.

Cruising, on the other hand, requires certain commitments, planning,
and an ability to handle whatever comes up without scooting back to
the safety of your slip.

For instance, when we leave Boston, roughly half the time time the
current is against us, over 2 knots for a considerable stretch. If
the wind is light, I'm not going to hesitate to fire up the engine.
Why not just accept it and spend 3-4 hours working out of the harbor?
Because often as not we have another 30-50 miles to go once we get
out! A daysailor would just avoid the mouth of the harbor when the
current is running; a cruiser has to deal with it. If we do an
overnight trip to get Down East, it doesn't serve any purpose to drift
around 20 miles offshore in the middle of the night.

And most of our routes involve high current passages such as the Cape
Cod Canal, Wood's Hole, the Blynman Canal, etc. When you make a
commitment to transit the Cape Cod Canal, it doesn't do you much good
to sail 30 miles and get there after the current has turned.

I could go on at length, but everyone here understands this. Everyone
except booby, of course.

BTW, We only left the dock 7 times last summer: Twice for daysails,
twice for overnights anchored in the harbor, and three times for 2
week trips. We powered and motorsailed a fair amount, but more than
half of the longer passages were under sail alone. So how often has
booby done a 50 mile spinnaker run?


Capt. Rob wrote:
if
we're doing under 5 knots we're likely to fire up the engine.


Nuff said. Jeff, you're in another world, basically a powerboating one.
I can't believe anyone would post such a thing, especially here.

RB
35s5

Why not just accept it and spend 3-4 hours working out of the harbor?



Total bull****. Too late to change what you posted, Jeff. You said you
usually start the engines when you're mot making 5 knots. I could care
less what you say from here on. Claim you're cruising with time
committments or whatever. You can try to make this about our easy going
day sails and short trips. I don't care. We don't run the engine. It's
against the very fabric of why we're out there for an hour, 5 hours or
a 3 day weekend trip.
You're full of ****. Some of the folks will look the other way, but you
and I know you've been exposed...and I suspect everyone does. You run
the engine when making less than 5 knots!

Powerboater!

RB

Rather impressive given that fewer than 100 were
built. They don't stay in one corner of a pond where there's no
wind.


Why are you impressed by this? Some of the best sailors only race
locally. Who cares if they don't sail far? Now that I have a boat you
all envy all you can do is **** and moan about how I'll use it. If I
take a long trip aboard her you'll **** and moan about sail trim. It's
all rather sad. Face facts. You've all been eclipsed. After this boat
we're buying a liveaboard and we'll say goodbye to your weekend warrior
life styles. And we'll have done it many years before you!
You'll live out your lives with part time dreams...and that's truly
sad. The bitterness and frustration in your posts makes all so very
clear. Only Ozzy and Mooron seem to have a grasp.
Jeff, you're oh, such a tool! And you don't even know it!

Robert B
35s5...a better boat than yours!

--
"Swab Rob" wrote


Now that I have a boat you all envy


no you don't. LIAR.

SBV

Jeff wrote:
And you call 4 knots in an 8 knots breeze fast? I can probably do
that!

The Hunter 19 could, and did many times.

For that matter, we've sailed a Whitby 42 with in-mast furling on both
main & mizzen got up to 3+ in a 7 ~ 8 knot wind, although it took a lot
of coaxing.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King