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Thom Stewart October 31st 05 07:41 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
It looks like Nutsy isn't sure he picked the right boat. He's running
Trolls trying to convince himself of certain things.

Like a Cockpit that is filled up by three adult is a huge cockpit.

A Helm that is right over the Rudder post, made necessary by transom
that has been moved foreward buy a swim platform, which also made a rack
& pinion installation necessary, which also forced the smallest steering
station every seen on a modern production boat.

A Quarter Stern Cabin and Head squeezed into and over loaded stern
area, which forced the need for the lengthen of the hull by the use of
the swim platform to keep anymore weight in the ass end of the boat. A
Stern Cabin & Head we've yet to see a picture of.

A fractional rig to eliminate Lee Helm on the overloaded Stern Section,
forcing a larger Main to keep up S/A, which makes for a squirrelly
up-wing sail trim, which also forced the self furling drum into the hull
to get head sail area down low. This Drum position force the need to run
lines thru the hull.

The Larger Main forces excessive heeling on close-haul sailing, which
makes for crew sitting on one another lap due to the small cockpit.

These are some of the reasons Nutsy is so busy finding positive things
to say about these weakness. If you lie to yourself enough you begin to
believe it.

Just proves, once again, all boats have weak points.

Did Nutsy buy the wrong boat? It is a learning process. He has a nice
boat. Is it the boat he wanted? Who knows what Nutsy really wants.

Ole Thom





Capt. Rob October 31st 05 08:55 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Thom, there's so much silliness in your post. Let's just start he

http://www.floridaboats.net/images/3.../slides/31.JPG

Have a seat on THAT toilet, Thom! Even if you're 7 feet tall, you have
leg room. To starboard of the toilet is a very large sink and vanity
and further back a nice wet locker that drains to the shower sump.
After all the head is actually using space from an optional aft cabin.
I've never seen a head so big even on a 40 footer. To port is another
door leading to an aft birth. No big deal. She's only 35.5 feet LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when you're 6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely? Very few.
As for her sailing performance...well, read the owner reviews. Are you
aware that this was voted Boat of the Year at the French Boat show when
introduced?
When why wife went below and saw the space of the 35s5 all she could
say was "how'd they do this?". The mating of boat plush livable space
and good sailing performance is a great thing....when you've found it.



RB
35s5


Thom Stewart October 31st 05 09:23 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Nutsy,

I see you can't get the "Head Door" even 1/2 way open. Short of Room?

Also see you talking about a "Quarter Berth" What happen to the big talk
about aft cabin?

These are some of the questions generated by your many dopey Posts. It
does beg to be asked.

Ole Thom





Bob Crantz October 31st 05 09:24 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Consider this Ole Thom:

The 35s5 has a scoop transom. When sailing in the sewage filled waters
around City Island (no less than 17 sewage outlets within a 12 mile radius!)
what do you think that transom is scooping? Bob can really call it a Sooper
Dooper Pooper Scooper!

Bwaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Can you imagine having that stuff washing about your ankles!

"Thomas! Don't put that in your mouth!" or how about Suzy handing Bob a nice
eggs salad sandwhich after he has pulled up the anchor line (unwashed hands!
eeew!).
"I could smell that egg salad before you even opened the fridge, Suzy!" mmm
good!

Oh my sides! Think of the germs! Don't get the air conditioner in the water!

Bwaaahahahaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaaa!

Amen!


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
It looks like Nutsy isn't sure he picked the right boat. He's running
Trolls trying to convince himself of certain things.

Like a Cockpit that is filled up by three adult is a huge cockpit.

A Helm that is right over the Rudder post, made necessary by transom
that has been moved foreward buy a swim platform, which also made a rack
& pinion installation necessary, which also forced the smallest steering
station every seen on a modern production boat.

A Quarter Stern Cabin and Head squeezed into and over loaded stern
area, which forced the need for the lengthen of the hull by the use of
the swim platform to keep anymore weight in the ass end of the boat. A
Stern Cabin & Head we've yet to see a picture of.

A fractional rig to eliminate Lee Helm on the overloaded Stern Section,
forcing a larger Main to keep up S/A, which makes for a squirrelly
up-wing sail trim, which also forced the self furling drum into the hull
to get head sail area down low. This Drum position force the need to run
lines thru the hull.

The Larger Main forces excessive heeling on close-haul sailing, which
makes for crew sitting on one another lap due to the small cockpit.

These are some of the reasons Nutsy is so busy finding positive things
to say about these weakness. If you lie to yourself enough you begin to
believe it.

Just proves, once again, all boats have weak points.

Did Nutsy buy the wrong boat? It is a learning process. He has a nice
boat. Is it the boat he wanted? Who knows what Nutsy really wants.

Ole Thom







John Cairns October 31st 05 09:30 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
It looks like Nutsy isn't sure he picked the right boat. He's running
Trolls trying to convince himself of certain things.

Like a Cockpit that is filled up by three adult is a huge cockpit.

A Helm that is right over the Rudder post, made necessary by transom
that has been moved foreward buy a swim platform, which also made a rack
& pinion installation necessary, which also forced the smallest steering
station every seen on a modern production boat.

A Quarter Stern Cabin and Head squeezed into and over loaded stern
area, which forced the need for the lengthen of the hull by the use of
the swim platform to keep anymore weight in the ass end of the boat. A
Stern Cabin & Head we've yet to see a picture of.

A fractional rig to eliminate Lee Helm on the overloaded Stern Section,
forcing a larger Main to keep up S/A, which makes for a squirrelly
up-wing sail trim, which also forced the self furling drum into the hull
to get head sail area down low. This Drum position force the need to run
lines thru the hull.

The Larger Main forces excessive heeling on close-haul sailing, which
makes for crew sitting on one another lap due to the small cockpit.

These are some of the reasons Nutsy is so busy finding positive things
to say about these weakness. If you lie to yourself enough you begin to
believe it.

Just proves, once again, all boats have weak points.

Did Nutsy buy the wrong boat? It is a learning process. He has a nice
boat. Is it the boat he wanted? Who knows what Nutsy really wants.

Ole Thom


Who cares?

Bwahahahahhahahhahhahhahahahhahaha

John Cairns



Capt. Rob October 31st 05 09:59 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
I see you can't get the "Head Door" even 1/2 way open. Short of Room?


Also see you talking about a "Quarter Berth" What happen to the big
talk
about aft cabin?




Huh? The head door opens just fine and to the biggest head on any boat
anywhere near this LOA. The after cabin birth is only matched in size
buy the current Catalina 350 and of course most 35 foot boats don't
even have an enclosed aft cabin with a birth big enough for two and
long enough for someone over 6'6. That also means two people can do
other things back there...and I'm a young man with a very pretty wife.
Like I said, few boats can match the 35s5 for performance and comfort
combined.

RB


Capt. Rob October 31st 05 10:00 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Oh my sides!


Try more situp and fewer Twinkies.


RB


Jeff October 31st 05 10:20 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Your aft cabin has no overhead clearance - you'll be lucky if you can
even roll over on that bunk. There isn't room to stand, a tiny
hanging locker, and you're being really generous with the dimension,
since the drawing would indicate that most of the berth is well under
7 feet. Calling it a cabin is also generous, its a quarter berth with
a door.

Your head seems large enough, but there's no separate shower. This is
OK for a daysailor, but not for a cruiser.

Again, you keep comparing this to Catalina's and their ilk. Being one
step up from a Cat or Hunter still makes it a second rate boat.

Capt. Rob wrote:
I see you can't get the "Head Door" even 1/2 way open. Short of Room?


Also see you talking about a "Quarter Berth" What happen to the big
talk
about aft cabin?



Huh? The head door opens just fine and to the biggest head on any boat
anywhere near this LOA. The after cabin birth is only matched in size
buy the current Catalina 350 and of course most 35 foot boats don't
even have an enclosed aft cabin with a birth big enough for two and
long enough for someone over 6'6. That also means two people can do
other things back there...and I'm a young man with a very pretty wife.
Like I said, few boats can match the 35s5 for performance and comfort
combined.

RB


Capt.Mooron October 31st 05 10:24 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Have a seat on THAT toilet, Thom! Even if you're 7 feet tall, you have
leg room.


Yeah...as long as you weigh less than 120lbs!!!

Can you fit in there? I believe it's good planning to keep the head as
small as possible....

CM




Bob Crantz October 31st 05 10:29 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Actually sit ups do very little for the sides. Try Some Russian twists. You
couldn't do any you marshmellow!

Have another egg salad sandwich!



"Sailing on the LIS with a scoop transom is like having a picnic on top of a
cesspool with the lid off."

E.H. Gewahr 1998


Bwaahahahahahaaaaaa!!!!!

Amen!!!!!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Oh my sides!


Try more situp and fewer Twinkies.


RB




Capt. Neal® October 31st 05 10:48 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Please tell us how that large engine cover in the cockpit sole
is secured to it doesn't come adrift in a storm or leak and flood
the bilge?

CN


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
| Thom, there's so much silliness in your post. Let's just start he
|
| http://www.floridaboats.net/images/3.../slides/31.JPG
|
| Have a seat on THAT toilet, Thom! Even if you're 7 feet tall, you have
| leg room. To starboard of the toilet is a very large sink and vanity
| and further back a nice wet locker that drains to the shower sump.
| After all the head is actually using space from an optional aft cabin.
| I've never seen a head so big even on a 40 footer. To port is another
| door leading to an aft birth. No big deal. She's only 35.5 feet LOA.
| But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when you're 6'3.
| Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely? Very few.
| As for her sailing performance...well, read the owner reviews. Are you
| aware that this was voted Boat of the Year at the French Boat show when
| introduced?
| When why wife went below and saw the space of the 35s5 all she could
| say was "how'd they do this?". The mating of boat plush livable space
| and good sailing performance is a great thing....when you've found it.
|
|
|
| RB
| 35s5
|

rgnmstr October 31st 05 11:17 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Interior size, berths and toilets. Quite a set of atributes to talk
about when your buying a new SAILboat. By the way I'd be willing to
bet the head on an Express 35 is every bit as big as this boat AND the
20 year old Express is built better and it's oh so much faster.


John Cairns October 31st 05 11:35 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Your aft cabin has no overhead clearance - you'll be lucky if you can even
roll over on that bunk. There isn't room to stand, a tiny hanging locker,
and you're being really generous with the dimension, since the drawing
would indicate that most of the berth is well under 7 feet. Calling it a
cabin is also generous, its a quarter berth with a door.

Your head seems large enough, but there's no separate shower. This is OK
for a daysailor, but not for a cruiser.


This is a cruiser:

http://tinylink.com/?PT3ure5LMZ

Yeah, standing head room throughout, a real aft cabin, a real separate
shower. There was one on the east coast earlier this year with a furling
mainsail-in mast-for 99k, the owner had reduced the price at least once,
might have been able to get it for less. Just a couple of things. You
couldn't buy it for 50k. You'd look silly day sailing it.

John Cairns



Thom Stewart November 1st 05 12:00 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
I
I
I
nutsy ~J


I do believe I've hooked a Nutsy Fish (G) Easy! Just a slooow
Troll.

Good sailing on ya new Boat, Nutsy. Just sail with your mouth shut and
less damn, dumb post!

Ole Thom





Capt. Rob November 1st 05 12:26 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
By the way I'd be willing to
bet the head on an Express 35 is every bit as big as this boat AND the
20 year old Express is built better and it's oh so much faster.

I like the Express 35, it's easy on the eyes unlike your boat and has a
good interior. Few are around and many were beat on pretty bad. It's
not likely I would have found one. That said it's still a pretty rough
boat compared to the 35s5.

RB


Capt Rob- November 1st 05 02:23 AM

IS there a RIGHT boat for NutCase?
 
Thom Stewart wrote:
|| It looks like Nutsy isn't sure he picked the right boat. He's
running
|| Trolls trying to convince himself of certain things.
||

He's just a self centered, insecure little troll who just has to have
the best of everything, or at least the beas by *HIS* definition.

Ignore him and he'll go away just like all the meows.

Capt.RB
Hunter 26X
Cesspool, NY



Capt.Mooron November 1st 05 02:51 AM

IS there a RIGHT boat for NutCase?
 

"Capt Rob-" wrote in message

Ignore him and he'll go away just like all the meows.

Capt.RB
Hunter 26X
Cesspool, NY


Look you whining ****ant..... from what I've seen, Bob produces more
sailing related discussion than anyone here. Bart tries with occasional
success to induce sailing related threads... but it takes the offensive
abilities of Bobsprit to really get everyone nipping and striking that
thread bare lure.

I bite on some of Bob's casts..... but it's not done out of malicious
intent... it provides me with a platform to craft a witty reply. I
appreciate Bob's posts. Sure he's a marginal sailor... I agree he needs the
best vessel available to even step up to the plate.... no question he knows
less about boats than my 8 yr old niece.... Yes he changes his mind more
often than a fat lady in a candy store... but let's face it you bunch of
whiners... if it wasn't for Bob... all you have to be better than is JAX!!
Yeah... I thought so!

He's giving you the opportunity to look down on someone for once in your
lives! Take advantage of his generosity!

I think we should have a Bobsrit appreciation day on this group!

You Go Bob... You Da Man!

CM



Capt. Rob November 1st 05 09:56 AM

IS there a RIGHT boat for NutCase?
 
You Go Bob... You Da Man!



Sometimes, only occasionaly someone really "gets me." Thanks, Mooron
(sniffle). You da man too!

PS: Your niece was dead wrong about IOR boats needing 15% lift at the
bow downwind.


RB
35s5


Donal November 2nd 05 12:47 AM

IS there a RIGHT boat for NutCase?
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:%KA9f.66633$y_1.14760@edtnps89...

He's giving you the opportunity to look down on someone for once in your
lives! Take advantage of his generosity!


That's the most blatant troll that I've ever seen. I'm sure that Bob is to
too smart to miss it!!

Sometimes, only occasionaly someone really "gets me." Thanks,
Mooron(sniffle). You da man too!


Maybe I'm wrong!!!!! Bwahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!




Regards


Donal
--




Scotty November 2nd 05 02:20 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when you're

6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?



The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.



Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415





John Cairns November 2nd 05 02:36 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when you're

6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?



The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.



Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415


Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I would be more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.

John Cairns



Scotty November 2nd 05 02:59 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"John Cairns" wrote in

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet

LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when

you're
6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?



The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I

would be more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.



Can you imagine if boobs ever got the balls to actually sail
somewhere and then sat down in the local bar and tried to talk
about berth lengths with some real sailors?

What a fairy!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



John Cairns November 2nd 05 03:22 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote in

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet

LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when

you're
6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?


The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I

would be more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.



Can you imagine if boobs ever got the balls to actually sail
somewhere and then sat down in the local bar and tried to talk
about berth lengths with some real sailors?

What a fairy!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


He doesn't drink. The only folks he needs to impress are the lubberly types
he has crew for him, folks that would be impressed by marble countertops.

John Cairns




John Cairns November 2nd 05 03:22 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote in

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet

LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when

you're
6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?


The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I

would be more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.



Can you imagine if boobs ever got the balls to actually sail
somewhere and then sat down in the local bar and tried to talk
about berth lengths with some real sailors?

What a fairy!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


He doesn't drink. The only folks he needs to impress are the lubberly types
he has crew for him.

John Cairns



John Cairns November 2nd 05 03:22 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote in

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet

LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when

you're
6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?


The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I

would be more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.



Can you imagine if boobs ever got the balls to actually sail
somewhere and then sat down in the local bar and tried to talk
about berth lengths with some real sailors?

What a fairy!


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


He doesn't drink. The only folks he needs to impress are the lubberly types
he has crew for him, folks that would be impressed by marble countertops.

John Cairns




rgnmstr November 2nd 05 04:19 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Lubberly types? You mean the teenage run-a-way skanks he picks up on
42nd street?


Capt. Rob November 2nd 05 12:17 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Ya know, pretty sure the aft double in my Catalina 28 is 7', I would be
more
impressed if it had 7' headroom.


the 35s5 has headroom for me and I'm 6'3. It's also hugely faster than
your lame Catalina 28. What a joke of a boat! PHRF 200!!!
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! Oh the agony!!! The 28 can't go upwind in a cop to
save it's life!

RB
35s5...a better boat
NY


Donal November 3rd 05 12:28 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when you're

6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?



The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


I used to think that your boat was a bit better than a Mac26. Thanks for
putting me straight!



regards


Donal
--





Scotty November 3rd 05 01:15 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

--
"Swab Rob" wrote She's only 35.5 feet

LOA.
But the aft birth is over 7 feet long! Kinda nice when

you're
6'3.
Do you know how few boats have births sized as nicely?



The Mac 26 has a 7' berth (not birth) . So does my boat.


I used to think that your boat was a bit better than a Mac26.



No, it's just bigger.



Thanks for
putting me straight!



I thought gays couldn't be converted.


--
Fleet Admiral Scotty
8450 AUSTIN ST APT 4K
KEW GARDENS, NY 11415
Ph.# 718-757-7114



Scotty November 4th 05 01:30 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Donut" wrote


I stick to sheep, eh?



wear a condom and you won't have that problem.

Scotty



Scotty November 4th 05 02:37 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 01:30:34 GMT, "Scotty"


scribbled thusly:


"Donut" wrote


I stick to sheep, eh?



wear a condom and you won't have that problem.

Scotty


Ahhh, speaking from experience.......



Yes Ozzy? go ahead.....don't be shy...... we're
waiting..........

SBV





Donal November 4th 05 11:54 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Donut" wrote


I stick to sheep, eh?



wear a condom and you won't have that problem.


Thanks for that handy tip!


Regards



Donal
--




Scotty November 5th 05 01:15 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Donut" wrote


I stick to sheep, eh?



wear a condom and you won't have that problem.


Thanks for that handy tip!



No problem....let me know if you need diagrams.

Scotty



Donal November 7th 05 12:33 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Donut" wrote


I stick to sheep, eh?


wear a condom and you won't have that problem.


Thanks for that handy tip!



No problem....let me know if you need diaphrams.


Don't condoms provide enough protection?

Regards


Donal
--




Scotty November 7th 05 03:44 AM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 

"Donal" wrote


No problem....let me know if you need diaphrams.


Don't condoms provide enough protection?



ha haha , good one. I'm done.

Scotty



Thom Stewart November 7th 05 05:56 PM

Did Nutsy Pick the wrong boat?
 
Nutsy,
The leg room in the head is OK but the head door won't open all the way.
The Nav. Station's Seat doesn't even let it open 1/2 way.

Can you get in there?



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