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Bart Senior November 3rd 05 08:36 PM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
You watch too many poorly done SciFi movies.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote

from thinking constructively. Fear is the mind killer - the little death .

.. .



Joe November 3rd 05 08:45 PM

Redcloud
 
yelp just the 3 of us..a great escape for sure. It was a perfect week,
had a small problem with the gen set, somehow fuel got into the oil.
Will have to check it out this weekend and find out what happened.

Recharged and ready to clear the decks and get back to work

Joe


Joe November 3rd 05 10:40 PM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
Can you walk and chew bubble gum at the same time?

Joe


Scotty November 4th 05 02:09 AM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 

"DSK" wrote in
Joe wrote:
How about not having a choice? The sea can change in a

heartbeat Doug.
You should know that.


Actually, I don't know that.
The sea can surprise you, but with study & forethought,

surprises can be
minimized... probably not ever eliminated totally.

Anything as big as an ocean cannot change "suddenly" but the

factors
affecting it can bring about a change that may be overlooked,

until it
becomes all too obvious.



But the sea changes colours...
but the sea...
Does not change

SN




Jonathan Ganz November 4th 05 04:53 AM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
We are talking skippers now, not crew.

Courage is diffucult to define. I view courage as
doing something that might get you killed, despite the
known risks. Would an outstanding skipper do
something so risky as to possibly lose his/her life?

Skippers have no business doing anything risky,
except as a last resort.

A good skipper doesn't have fear, because he/she
always has a backup plan. When you are leading
you are making decisions about actions. Actions
conqueor fear.

Recognizing the dangers of a situation and staying
calm--is that courage? Or is it level-headedness?


Courage can also be defined as not doing something just because your
crew wants to do it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Bart Senior November 4th 05 07:19 AM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
That's backbone.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

Bart Senior .@. wrote:

A good skipper doesn't have fear, because he/she
always has a backup plan. When you are leading
you are making decisions about actions. Actions
conqueor fear.


Courage can also be defined as not doing something just because your
crew wants to do it.

"j" ganz @@




Jonathan Ganz November 4th 05 07:16 PM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
In article , Bart Senior .@. wrote:
That's backbone.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote

Bart Senior .@. wrote:

A good skipper doesn't have fear, because he/she
always has a backup plan. When you are leading
you are making decisions about actions. Actions
conqueor fear.


Courage can also be defined as not doing something just because your
crew wants to do it.


I wish some of our leaders on both side of the aisle had more of it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



DSK November 4th 05 07:33 PM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
Joe wrote:

How about slapping open a pelican hook loose holding 65,000 pounds of
anchor and chain flaked out on deck under a heavy strain. Its
dangerious work, but necessary, working on a deck awash, diving under a
boat in rough seas, offloading underway in a 15 ft wake, I can think of
a thousand things that are dangerious and necessary to accomplish many
jobs at sea. The Alaskan crabbers have the most dangerious job on
earth, with offshore oilfield workers next in line. Not all skippers
have the courage to do the job. They are not outstanding IMO and need
to stick to safer occupations our ventures.


Joe, I think those are good examples of jobs that take some bravery, but
not really applicable to being an outstanding skipper. Does the skipper
personally knock out the key link to drop anchor? Alaskan crabbers & oil
field workers do what they do for money. It doesn't have a thing to do
with being outstanding, only being willing to to take risks for pay.

That said, I have a high regard for most guys who work at sea under
almost any conditions. It's a tough way to make a living and takes a lot
of guts as well as some brainpower.

DSK


Joe November 4th 05 07:54 PM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
the skipper tells the deck hand when to trip open the hook, therefore
he is responsiable for the deckape.
Like I said, some Skippers handle anchors, some handle tourist on bird
watching boats and some run yachts for lubbers.



The outstanding ones are the ones who get the job done no matter what
is thrown at them. The ones who step up to the plate and have the
courage to swing. Lets face it Doug, some people do not have the
courage to be good skippers.

Joe


jlrogers November 10th 05 11:59 AM

The Attributes of an Outstanding Skipper
 
Stupidity is not the same as courage.

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , DSK
wrote:

Joe wrote:
Both Doug and Bart are wrong on this one.........


No, we're not.

... courage is very
important trait for an "outstanding skipper".


I would never want to go sailing with an outstandingly brave skipper. In
fact, a skipper who makes declarations that he's not afraid, or that
the crew should not be afraid, etc etc, is exactly the kind of macho
butt head who is dangerous on the water. The kind of skipper who is
intent on proving how brave he is, and (just for example) would refuse
to 'run away' from a Cat 5 hurricane.


Yeah - what Doug said.

I've been in F12 gales in the Southern Ocean. The inexperienced and the
macho brave thought it was fun. The skipper was watching the 2nd mate
on the helm, I was watching the radar and all 3 of us were not happy
campers.

It's real hard to pick up a bergy bit either visual or radar in a gale.

PDW





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